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posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Honestly I am surprised at all the posts that I have read in this thread. A lot of knowledgeable people here where demons are concerned. I myself believe because I have experienced them. I hope this guy doesn't actually do it but I guess the more you say that to someone the more they want to go diving in after it. I look forward to posing some of my questions in the future for some feedback. I'm going to see the movie "The Rite" this weekend. I've read up on the real Priest Gary Thomas and he seems very knowledgeable in that area. We are Spiritual creatures by nature and most humans doing have the slightest clue about it. I'd like to think thats changing however slow..........




posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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I AM TRAUMATIZED FROM WHAT I HAVE PRACTICED, AND NOW I AM SEEKING HELP FROM

KNOWLEDGEABLE INDIVIDUALS, BECAUSE I AM TERRIBLY AFRAID OF BEING DAMNED. AFTER WHAT I

HAVE WITNESSED OF THIS PHENOMENA AND WHAT I BELIEVED HIGHLY POSSIBLY HAS CAUSED TO

OTHER/S BESIDES ME, I AM SEEKING SALVATION, AND I HAVE LIVING TERRIBLE AGONIZING FEAR FOR

YEARS EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE ARE OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE NOT WITNESSED SUCH

PHENOMENA AND MAY BE SKEPTICAL, BUT I BELIEVED I HAVE WITNESSED THE REAL THING AND I AM

IN TERRIBLE FEAR OF THE CONSEQUENCES. I WOULDN'T WISH THIS UPON ANYONE.

IT IS SO...HORRIBLE. PLEASE TAKE THIS ADVICE, PERHAPS IF I CAN SAVE OTHERS, I MAY BE SAVED:

NO MATTER HOW MUCH SUFFERING YOU MAY UNDERGO IN THIS LIFE, WHETHER IT IS MISERY,

UNABLE TO HAVE A LOVE MARRIAGE, PAIN IN ANY WAY, ENDURE IT AND DON'T KILL YOURSELF

WHEN THINGS GET BAD AND MOST MOST IMPORTANTLY ALWAYS BE LOVING, KIND, GIVE UP ALL

MATERIAL WANTS, HELP OTHERS FOR GOODNESS, ALWAYS BE VIRTUOUS, CONSTANTLY, EVERY

DAY, FOR EVERY SINGLE SECOND, EVERY SINGLE MOMENT IN YOUR LIFESPAN, NEVER GIVE UP

YOUR MORALITY, AND PRAY TO THE SUPREME BEING THAT YOU KEEP YOUR SPIRITUAL INTEGRITY

AND MORALITY.


* * * It is better so suffer so on this earthly plane that to give it up for such horrible consequences.

Think of it like a beautiful story, a fairy tale, about a good human who no matter what was non wanting, din't

look at women lustfully, gave up sex, a truly good person, who didn't engage in the ego feed of the media. Always

loving, seek salvation and possibly that of others.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:37 PM
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You wanna summon demons? Go to Washington D.C. and check out Capital Hill. Learn politics.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by xdrosan
I AM TRAUMATIZED FROM WHAT I HAVE PRACTICED, AND NOW I AM SEEKING HELP FROM

KNOWLEDGEABLE INDIVIDUALS, BECAUSE I AM TERRIBLY AFRAID OF BEING DAMNED. AFTER WHAT I

HAVE WITNESSED OF THIS PHENOMENA AND WHAT I BELIEVED HIGHLY POSSIBLY HAS CAUSED TO

OTHER/S BESIDES ME, I AM SEEKING SALVATION, AND I HAVE LIVING TERRIBLE AGONIZING FEAR FOR

YEARS EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE ARE OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE NOT WITNESSED SUCH

PHENOMENA AND MAY BE SKEPTICAL, BUT I BELIEVED I HAVE WITNESSED THE REAL THING AND I AM

IN TERRIBLE FEAR OF THE CONSEQUENCES. I WOULDN'T WISH THIS UPON ANYONE.

IT IS SO...HORRIBLE. PLEASE TAKE THIS ADVICE, PERHAPS IF I CAN SAVE OTHERS, I MAY BE SAVED:

NO MATTER HOW MUCH SUFFERING YOU MAY UNDERGO IN THIS LIFE, WHETHER IT IS MISERY,

UNABLE TO HAVE A LOVE MARRIAGE, PAIN IN ANY WAY, ENDURE IT AND DON'T KILL YOURSELF

WHEN THINGS GET BAD AND MOST MOST IMPORTANTLY ALWAYS BE LOVING, KIND, GIVE UP ALL

MATERIAL WANTS, HELP OTHERS FOR GOODNESS, ALWAYS BE VIRTUOUS, CONSTANTLY, EVERY

DAY, FOR EVERY SINGLE SECOND, EVERY SINGLE MOMENT IN YOUR LIFESPAN, NEVER GIVE UP

YOUR MORALITY, AND PRAY TO THE SUPREME BEING THAT YOU KEEP YOUR SPIRITUAL INTEGRITY

AND MORALITY.


* * * It is better so suffer so on this earthly plane that to give it up for such horrible consequences.

Think of it like a beautiful story, a fairy tale, about a good human who no matter what was non wanting, din't

look at women lustfully, gave up sex, a truly good person, who didn't engage in the ego feed of the media. Always

loving, seek salvation and possibly that of others.


Seriously, there has to be a story behind this. Do tell.

-TheGhoster



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by daniel191159
The idea of a demon wanting your soul in return for a favour is so rare that it is laughable. Read any given demonic text. They don't usually deman a soul. Demons are not brainless servants of Satan like most Christians would have you believe. They are also not all evil. First off, good and evil are relative, not absolute. What is considered good by some (missionary work for example), just might be considered evil by others (destruction of the religious cultures of countless peoples). Just keep in mind the motives of the demon/spirit you choose to summon.

Also, decide what you want to offer the spirit. Be precise and clear about your intentions and the terms of your contract. When deciding on what to offer the spirit consider motivation. Why should a non-physical entity not of this plane of existance care about helping you, listening to you, or even granting an audience with you? Make sure you don't waste their time.

One last piece of advice: Don't summon something you can't handle. Demons and other spirits are not always malevalent and are often more reasonable than most humans. Just be polite but not cowardly or timid and you should be fine.


They don't have to want or demand your soul in return; when one willingly places themselves at Satan's mercy, that person has already given up their soul anyway.

Don't do it, OP. It's not worth it and it can only lead to trouble.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:12 PM
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Dealt with one... a "Screwtape" (as I have no other means to describe it). Attached to my mother in law. Came into our house with her, knew the instant it did. Succeeded only in banishing it off the property. Then, proceeded to ignore it and trivialize it; it got pissed. Did what ever it could to make it known that it was still there... A sink hole in the yard, black mold that killed all the sage, drove off the little folk, Killed all the bees in the yard (garden with out pesticides and too far from the farms for cross over), scattered the toads, spiders, and wasps (the "regulars" hightailed it). Bad news. Would not summon one. Will trick you, and eventually outsmart you. May try to make you a deal for "all items" in the room... that means you too. No Sir. Though, Song of Solomon is a good read none-the-less.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:22 PM
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Ugh, all these lame replies of people filtering the concept of demons through their own personal paradigms like they are absolute truth.

Take your query to www.occultcorpus.com



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 12:22 AM
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well this is how miss rudolph does it.

warning language maybe toxic to some.

Mudbone Series - Little Feets (Part 2)

and if you want to know what the deal with the monkey is about, listen to part one. funny stuff.

now for the serious side of post, they don't call them the black arts for nothing.
all who practice these arts pay a higher price than they bargained for, in some form or the other. they may not think that they have paid a price other than what they wanted, but in the long run, the the summoned one gets the better end of the deal.

you do realize that, Quote, Unquote, Demons, have been in every from of religion known to man. not just the abrahamic traditions, judaism, christianity and islamic. some are older than the abrahamic traditions.
and most of them thought of these as being evil. there are a few that say they are not malevolent towards humans, the majority say that they are, and that all manner of care be taken in dealing with them.

that being said i would dare say that those who claim them not to be malevolent, are what i say are long hair commie pinko liberals, who do not want to conform to morals and standards that a civilized society expects.
or that they are just deprived individuals, who think that conjuring demons is a cool thing to do, and that they can get their jollies meet through them/ or gain some sort of power for what ever length of time.
nah just kidding.


no but really, be careful you could windup as a polar bear with little tiny feet.




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posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 11:40 PM
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Yes, I am intending on explaining my story, it should be up on this thread within a day or two. I am seeking help

from those who are very knowledgeable but are wise and have good intentions, and know not to get involved with

such horror.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by The Cusp
Ugh, all these lame replies of people filtering the concept of demons through their own personal paradigms like they are absolute truth.

Take your query to www.occultcorpus.com


Best advice yet. It's getting boring to know that most of these topics wherein a person requests aid concerning summoning whatever it is they want to summon people immediately grab the chance to 'warn' the people about their 'awfully, bad and dangerous' ideas. If the OP was looking for advice regarding consequences, that would be the actual question and not what was actually asked.

There is no such thing as an absolute truth, according to me, so it's all just void



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 11:05 AM
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I've recently been doing some research on this. To most it's probably for the wrong reason. I've been frustrated lately. Mainly because I don't fully believe in anything. I used to be a dedicated christian. I was raised in a christian home my entire life so God was soaked into me. As I grew older I drifted away. Honestly I just want to see something out of this realm, if there is anything at all. My entire family constantly nags me about God. I'm at rough time in my life and they say God can get me through it. I've tried God. I spent the last year praying, and trying to have Faith. It led nowhere. This really came too because one day I was so furious at my family that I just said if God won't give me a sign of his existence than maybe Satan will. Sounds corny I know. I just hate not knowing. I have family members who have claimed to see spirits. I've heard the stories numerous times. If they exist, I want to see it for myself and I'm willing to go to any length. Whether it be a spirit or satan himself. If any of it is real I want to see it.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 04:04 PM
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JDEPPS PLEASE READ THIS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

JDEPPS AND ANYBODY BEING CURIOUS OR TEMPTED TO ATTEMPT SUCH PRACTICE, READ THIS, IT

MAY SAVE YOUR EXISTENCE.

* * I am one who has practiced such, at first I was unaware when I came upon it at 19 years of age, because the

practice material

was disguised, this material being introduced to me from shady others at a corrupt place, because it was in

the success genre, then I became suspicious because I witnessed phenomena from it, then after some years,

around age 23, I got tempted because I was so ANGRY AND BLINDED BY PRIDE with my unhappiness and I

knew of the phenomena from practicing that material, and I began practicing it again. I HAVE BEEN IN FEAR

AND

EXTREME REGRET FOR YEARS FOR THIS EXTREME MISTAKE THAT I HAVE MADE, I THINK ABOUT IT IN

FEAR MANY TIMES THROUGHOUT MY DAY MANY TIMES A DAY, IN EXTREME FEAR, WITH HEART

RACING PANIC ATTACKS AND ANXIETY.


I AM SO AFRAID OF THE UNKNOWN DAMNING CONSEQUENCES, and I wouldn't wish

this upon anyone. I WISH FOR SALVATION AND THAT OF OTHERS.


I too was so frustrated and angry with my life, me being a weak link and having psychological

problems, not smart and able enough for school or work, unable to have the strength and ability to attain the

material resources to have an intimate relationship with a female, my brain-mind corrupted and I behaved

wickedly also due to prior habitual drug use and I being a weak link, I was so angry, and my desire to attain

material wealth, I was so blinded by pride, and I knowing of such phenomena, I insanely and damn extremely

foolishly went to the black magic practice material, I too saying to myself that since God wouldn't help me

succeed, I would turn to the black magic arts. Those desires that I had were just vain wants, material wants, sex,

etc. So I began practicing that black magic which would of been a lengthy damning effort, but I gave it up

weeks after, because although I disregarded my own consequences for practicing, WHAT I DID NOT KNOW

WAS THAT THAT BLACK MAGIC SUMMONED DEMON OR DEMONS, AND THAT DEMON OR

DEMONS I FELT ENTER ME AND TRIED TO TAKE CONTROL OF ME LIKE A PUPPET AND THAT THIS

BLACK MAGIC COULD BE DEADLY TO MY LOVED ONES OR THOSE AROUND ME, and that this black

magic can be deadly to those around me, AND I realized such because I would sporadically perform involuntary

actions, hear hellish screams and voices at night, and then finally, one night I had a dream of a loved one leaving,

and the next day I found out that that person ended up in a coma, and days after ended up dying.

I HOPE IT IS UNDERSTOOD HOW DANGEROUS THIS IS !!!! AND THAT

NOBODY DOES THIS !!!

I DID NOT WANT ANYBODY TO BE AFFECTED WHEN I PRACTICED!!!! If it was because of

black practice, my loved was taken against my will.


JDEPPS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY THE BENEVOLENT FORCES

DON'T MANIFEST, perhaps it is a test of your true character, because if one knew one would most likely surely

repent for the mistakes they made and definitely try to be good, if that person isn't specifically evil.


JDEPPS i understand that you want to know if these things exist, regardless if it is evil in nature, but if let's say

you were able to make possible the manifest of black magic or a demon, that could cost you greatly, of unknown

possible damning consequences, to you and be deadly to your loved ones and those around you. It is a destrctve

practice and there is no good in it.


JDEPPS i also understand that you have been very frustrated and you are going through a rough time, but

PLEASE don't turn to the evil forces. I don't believe one should pray to the benevolent God, Supreme Being, for

material wants, but for true spiritual help. No matter how much suffering you go through, go through it spiritually,

because I would rather be blind, paralyzed, and miserable in pain on earth, and suffer personally even worse on

earth, just the way Jesus Christ was said to suffer and being humiliated when bearing the cross, we must bear

that cross throughout our life with spirituality, rather than the consequences of having been involved with the evil

forces, and I now am seeking salvation and that of others, because I am really afraid of being damned, I hope me

and others will be saved. --- YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SUFFERS ON EARTH, THERE ARE PEOPLE

THAT GO THROUGH EXTREME SUFFERING ON EARTH. THINK ABOUT THE PARALYTICS, THE STARVING,

THE SICK, ETC.


JDEPPS i understand that you spent the last year praying and nothing happened, AND THAT IS WHY IT IS

IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO READ MY NEXT POSTS, PLEASE READ BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MUCH SPACE

TO TYPE IN THIS POST, TO TRULY LET YOU BELIEVE WITHOUT PROOF.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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JDEPPS PLEASE READ MY POST PRIOR TO THIS ONE.

JDEPPS it's important to understand that true faith is believing in being good and practicing morality and helping

others is true faith no matter how much suffering you go through on earth, and being faithful is a life term effort,

not just pray for a year and if nothing happens become doubtful, you have persist for every single moment of your

life until your time to depart. The media, such as television and the

internet bombard our minds into increasing our egos, and it also increases consumerism, ego increases

consumerism, as explained in this video: www.youtube.com...


not only that, it hinders our spiritual growth


NOW.........VERY IMPORTANT WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY FOR YOU AND OTHERS:

EXPERIMENTATION OF BLACK MAGIC IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND DEADLY AND OF DANGEROUS

CONSEQUENCES FOR THE AFTERLIFE, AND USING EVIL TO FIND THE TRUTH IS DANGEROUS AND

DEADLY. My best solution right now to prevent the non-believers from experimenting is to think with logic.

Logically you may not believe in supernatural or afterlife phenomena. Logically you don't truly know what happens

after death because you haven't died yet and whether you may still have awareness, and there may still be a

POSSIBILITY of afterlife. From that possibility, it would be more logical for you NOT to delve in black magic

because of the possibility of the afterlife and of dreadful consequences. Yes, your supernatural inquiries would be

unanswered, but the best way to get those inquiries answered is by practicing true good unselfish morality in the

world and good faith, seeing a poor person in the street asking for your help and you helping (that could be a

test) and if your good faith and morality is genuine something spiritually good may or may not happen,

but that would require never giving up and being persistent even if nothing happened, and practicing good faith

throughout your whole life even if nothing happened. Perhaps you

could start seeing signs in life, like coincidences that are more than just coincidences, karmic

happenings, etc. If something spiritually good does NOT happen, perhaps your true character is being

tested, because one who has witnessed supernatural phenomena could be more fearful of doing wrong.

IT IS WISER, even if you don't believe, to practice good morality, unselfishness, good humanity, being

loving and kind, and helping others, just because of the possibility that there may be an afterlife, and

since logically it may be either a) there is nothing, or no awareness, or, b) there is an afterlife and

awareness, and since it could go either way, a) or b), the possibility of b) is the reasoning for keeping it

safe, and practicing good morality and avoid damning afterlife consequences.



IF one can't succeed in life and attain things in life, maybe because of natural weakness, like not being fit for

women and succeed, we can't let that get to us, whether our girlfriend-wife cheats on us, we have to endure the

suffering with love and morality and realize that that anger is our enemy for our downfall. Lust, that is a big

downfall, those minutes of pleasure are just minutes of pleasure in intervals, we need to really fight lust off, that is

a big downfall for us.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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I WROTE 3 POSTS PRIOR TO THIS ONE
I’m sorry I said I would post and explain my story, but right now I’m not feeling comfortable posting more detailed information on an open forum because of the extremity of SPIRITUAL DANGER,
DEADLINESS AND CONSEQUENCES IN THE AFTERLIFE that it may cause to the curious. What you will be
reading in the next paragraphs would be the preamble, a preventative measure for those who may be
tempted, that would have been included with the detailed story. Again I’m sorry, maybe I will post it on
ATS at a future time, most likely with a different username, although I am seeking to discuss this
information with knowledgeable individuals and spiritual experts who have good intent, because I am
seeking redemption from this, and I created an e-mail address just so I can communicate with such
knowledgeable
individuals. The e-mail that I can be contacted at is: astsem@live.com
Anyone reading this please read my previous post on this thread. This topic is as serious as it gets. This
form of practice, black magic-demon summoning, is of upmost danger, it is deadly, and of most likely
damning consequences in the afterlife. I am traumatized by this, I think about it every day, many times a
day with fear, and I have been living like this for years
since it happened. I am really afraid of being damned and I am seeking salvation and that of others. I
wouldn't wish this upon anyone, and I pray to God, Supreme Being, that any fellow members will never
be curious or tempted to practice such, no matter how angry and miserable one is with their life. It is
better to suffer regardless of the suffering on this earth plane than have to deal with such
consequences. For the readers of this post, I think of them as three types: One type of reader is the one
who knows, believes, and has witnessed such phenomena. The second type is the one who believes but
has not witnessed such phenomena, and the third type is the non-believer, who has not witnessed and
denies that such phenomena exists.
For the non-believers, I want to mention that after I had witnessed such black magic phenomena, my
perception, relationship and morality with the world changed drastically. Prior to what I witnessed, my
religious and supernatural beliefs wavered from believing and not believing. From witnessing evil
phenomena, my waning beliefs became not just believing but knowing that such phenomena exists, and
that reinforced my belief in the forces of good, and of universal moral law. I am mentioning all this to
the non-believers, because from reading this post, you may get curious and experimental, or to
reevaluate your beliefs, and that is what I am afraid of. EXPERIMENTATION OF BLACK MAGIC IS
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND DEADLY AND OF DANGEROUS CONSEQUENCES FOR THE AFTERLIFE, AND
USING EVIL TO FIND THE TRUTH IS DANGEROUS AND DEADLY. My best solution right now to prevent the
non-believers from experimenting is to think with logic. Logically you may not believe in supernatural or
afterlife phenomena. Logically you don't truly know what happens after death because you haven't died
yet and whether you may still have awareness, and there may still be a POSSIBILITY of afterlife. From
that possibility, it would be more logical for you NOT to delve in black magic because of the possibility of
the afterlife and of dreadful consequences. Yes, your supernatural inquiries would be unanswered, but
the best way to get those inquiries answered is by practicing true good unselfish morality in the world
and good faith, seeing a poor person in the street asking for your help and you helping (that could be a
test) and if your good faith and morality is genuine something spiritually good may or may not happen,
but that would require never giving up and being persistent even if nothing happened, and practicing good faith throughout your whole life even if nothing happened, . Perhaps you
could start seeing signs in life, like coincidences that are more than just coincidences, karmic
happenings, etc. If something spiritually good does NOT happen, perhaps your true character is being
tested, because one who has witnessed supernatural phenomena could be more fearful of doing wrong.
IT IS WISER, even if you don't believe, to practice good morality, unselfishness, good humanity, being
loving and kind, and helping others, just because of the possibility that there may be an afterlife, and
since logically it may be either a) there is nothing, or no awareness, or, b) there is an afterlife and
awareness, and since it could go either way, a) or b), the possibility of b) is the reasoning for keeping it
safe, and practicing good morality and avoid damning afterlife consequences.
Me mentioning all this for warning others to prevent them from becoming involved with the black arts is
not only for non-believers, but



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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I WROTE 4 POSTS PRIOR TO THIS ONE

.......also for believers, and knowers.

But I don't know the workings of the afterlife, but I do know that I've witnessed supernatural
phenomena from black magic, and I am seeking help and answers from
knowledgeable individuals, and find ways so that I could redeem myself and find salvation and also for
others, because I am terrified of the possibility of being damned, and I suffer a lot of anxiety daily of this
because I am so worried of the consequences. The panic and feelings of hopelessness that I feel are a
horrible a state of mind to be in. Again, I can be contacted at atsem@live.com.
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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 06:54 PM
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NOTIFICATION ABOUT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS:


ON my post, posted on 11-2-2013 @ 04:36 PM reply to post by theghoster


I wrote that the e-mail that I can be contacted at is: astsem@live.com . THAT IS NOT MY E-MAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!.

MY REAL E-MAIL IS: atsem@live.com

so it's atsem NOT astem.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 09:21 PM
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As I figured, nothing happened. I spent alot of time on it all too, I didn't half ass it. Spent 20-30 minutes on the entire ritual or whatever you want to call it. A bit eerie doing it in an ice cold basement in pitch black other than few candles but it's all BS. I tried it a 2nd time an hour later except tried calling out a different demon and used my blood as a offering and offered my soul to up the ante. Same result. Even tried using a Ouija Board. Before I finished I provoked the hell out of it which is supposedly "soooo dangerous". Too all the people who believe I guess all I can say is it's crazy how your mind and body can play tricks on you and cause you to see, feel, and hear whats not there. Cause thats all ghosts/spirits are, your mind.
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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 01:26 PM
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JDepps, please don't take this as me trying to be aggressive or trying to win the argument, it's not at all like that, I even hope to remain in good terms with you after. I am just trying to help you see the light. We are given a free will, and you have the free will for which side to believe, but external factors such our environment and the ego based media can change us and affect our decisions. I hope that you will return to the light and truly believe in humanitarianism, moral good, empathy, and the benevolent supreme being even without proof, being good without proof of the supernatural and consider the Possibility that there may more in the afterlife, and endure in good faith even if having to endure hardships in your life. Regardless of the suffering hardships and frustrations that you may endure in life, I hope that you just considering that there may be more to life, a benevolent force, that would be enough for you to hang on to persistently throughout any trials and tribulations that you may face. Perhaps when the benevolent force realizes that you are firmly loyal and constant by never giving up, then perhaps you may get signs by the light side, such as seeing coincidences in life that are more than just coincidences, BUT if you don't, DO NOT let that frustrate you, because maybe your frustration is the reason why you are not given signs, and that frustration can cause one to give up faith, become disloyal and turn to the dark side, and also because anger clouds our judgments when making moral decisions, and can cause us to make immoral decisions because we are blinded. May the light be with you.
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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by J.B. Aloha
Dealt with one... a "Screwtape" (as I have no other means to describe it). Attached to my mother in law. Came into our house with her, knew the instant it did. Succeeded only in banishing it off the property. Then, proceeded to ignore it and trivialize it; it got pissed. Did what ever it could to make it known that it was still there... A sink hole in the yard, black mold that killed all the sage, drove off the little folk, Killed all the bees in the yard (garden with out pesticides and too far from the farms for cross over), scattered the toads, spiders, and wasps (the "regulars" hightailed it). Bad news. Would not summon one. Will trick you, and eventually outsmart you. May try to make you a deal for "all items" in the room... that means you too. No Sir. Though, Song of Solomon is a good read none-the-less.

Drove off "the little folk?" Are you talking elves or brownies here?





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