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posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 12:49 PM
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No surprise there intrepid!, some folks dont know when the roof is on fire!
Leadership is non existent in some circles.




posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by HDFACTORYCERTIF
No surprise there intrepid!, some folks dont know when the roof is on fire!
Leadership is non existent in some circles.


Or some people think I'm a nut job for sending them this. If there are screams wouldn't you think a denial would be in order?



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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In my opinion control was lost when it needed to be gained by those in control. Since control of this situation was not gained, I took control.
RacerX and I are both business owners, we have to control our business daily, there is no way around that.
If you lose control of your business, then some one else will do it for you.
As this has damaged our buisnesses and personal lives, we have taken over the wheel. Simply no one else appears to be able or willing.
The secretary of this problem lodge has stated he has dirt on the higher ups. Could be true as far as we know, thus the malfunction?



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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You could call or Email Walla Walla Lodge #7 of Walla Walla Washington.

This is the Lodge he claims to hail from..

I am considering E-mailing the lodge a link to this thread, to see if we could get a true Mason from the lodge to give his perspective. My guess.. it would be somewhere along the lines of ... "what?" ..

Because HD .. the tech dude working at a harley shop .. is not a Mason.

By the way. What does your job have to dow with ANYthing HD.. you make no sense what so ever.

The way you speak its as if there is some massive conspiracy against you and every one is working against you and its you, you alone standing up to the powers that be. Some people in search for self importance and self worth will conjure impressive ideas that, given time, they come to truly beleive. I believe that this is your case HD.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by HDFACTORYCERTIF
The secretary of this problem lodge has stated he has dirt on the higher ups. Could be true as far as we know, thus the malfunction?
But Don, didn't you just prove that Gene Alexander, the secretary of your lodge, is the one who defaced your business website? And this after you said your friend who'd walked out with you was elected secretary? (I see, now that I'm digging back through the thread...) Am I missing something?

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posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 03:31 PM
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I sent an E-mail to the Lodge officers.

I mean.. if your publicly denouncing men on the internet..

They should know.

It would be, imo, unMasonic to continue this conversation without someone from the Lodge here. Though, I believe it unMasonic to discuss this at all.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 03:44 PM
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Was lurking on ATS and saw this on going "Problem Lodge" debate and just wanted to point out that HDFACTORYCERTIF has also posted a similar story on the ClubChopper forums. However, on that forum, his story is he is being harassed by the Hell's Angels. A little odd that he posts that he's being harassed by Masons on a Secret Societies forum and Hell's Angels on a biker forum... cry for attention? Not to mention the fact the HA's member harrassing him also involved his website and pornography...just like his story here.

www.clubchopper.com...

In another forum thread he also talks about how the local police are all corupt and harrassing him as well and constantly trying to force him to receive stolen goods... etc etc etc...

Seems he lives in the universal focal point for conspiracies against him.
I think Rockpuck was correct in saying that he believes it's "him vs the powers that be".



Hope this information helps. Oh, according to his profile there, his name is Don and he's from Calhounville, Wa. Just outside Walla Walla...enjoy.

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posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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Go get em Tigers!
Make em stop that awful Harley guy!



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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Slightly off topic, but relevant because I believe HD continued his rant there, but does anyone know what happened to the "I just turned in my petition (excited)" thread? I was going to go looking it up to see more of what HD had written, and now I'm not seeing the thread at all!!!



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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Mods? Just out of sheer curiosity... how does one go into a deficit where one "owes" ATS 2500 some-odd points?

 


HD, I confess disappointment.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton
Slightly off topic, but relevant because I believe HD continued his rant there, but does anyone know what happened to the "I just turned in my petition (excited)" thread? I was going to go looking it up to see more of what HD had written, and now I'm not seeing the thread at all!!!


I moved that to BTS, Members section I believe. There was no conspiracy thus not a SS topic.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by The Axeman
Mods? Just out of sheer curiosity... how does one go into a deficit where one "owes" ATS 2500 some-odd points?


One way would be to "buy" stuff in the ATS store using combined points. If it takes more points than you have in a particular (ATS,BTS,PTS) category, voila negative points.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 07:24 PM
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posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 07:59 PM
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Rock, I took the time to call the Washington Grand Lodge this afternoon and the very helpful young lady who answered the telephone (Charlene)informed me that there has been no complaint of any type issued from any member in the entire state that fits the description of the type being alleged here.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 08:03 PM
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I am awaiting a response from a senior member from Walla Walla Lodge on the matter.. I to doubt he will have the slightest idea as to what I am talking about.. in fact, I can just imagine the surprise he will experience when he reads this thread.. all this information passing around about HIS lodge out in a small town in Washington state.. either way, I certainly hope this fraud is banned after we get enough evidence to prove hes in fact a fraud. The guy who posted the Chopper website, excellent work.. very interesting.. hope the mods are keeping an eye on this as well.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 08:06 PM
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I am also awaiting an email response from a Past Master of Walla Walla Lodge regarding these allegations. He was unaware of what was being posted on this website and was very thankful for directing his attention to them.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 08:11 PM
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I am hoping someone from the Lodge will post on the forum .. I know if it where in fact my Lodge I would be concerned about the libel written against several people that are no doubt well standing citizens in their small town. Boggles my mind how someone can honestly be so ignorant and self consumed with hate and bigotry that they would attack our institution like this..

Kind of depressing.



posted on Mar, 26 2008 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
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I am hoping someone from the Lodge will post on the forum .. I know if it where in fact my Lodge I would be concerned about the libel written against several people that are no doubt well standing citizens in their small town.
Indeed, not only is Gene Alexander the secretary and treasurer of that blue lodge, but also treasurer of Order of the Amaranth, Royal and Select Masters of Washington, and Royal Arch Masons of Washington. Perhaps these were the appendant bodies that HD claims hold sway over the GL? The Secretary who's been running the lodge from the desk to the right for the last 4 years? The one who's embezzled from the bikes & books fund? Cast member of the 1976 outdoor summer musical "Trails West"?



posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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Ok, now that we all feel better.
We are working on a flow chart to help bring all this into a better time warp perspective.

Recall that I brought up the EAM from the problem lodge that approached me to construct a silencer for a Chicom SKS rifle last January. This was just another attempt to destroy me by the monkeys.
Now I will draw your attention to this individual.
www.usdoj.gov...
This person was injected into one of RacerX companies and caused more then $100,000 dollars damage.
The Monkeys thought he was a great guy and voted him in.
Two things occured before the initiation, he approached RacerX and I to get involved in narcotics. we were stunned, voiced our concerns, and then he was suddenly arrested and hauled back to Montana.
There was not a word in the local paper about this, I overheard this at the ELKs lodge, and then asked the secretary of the Monkey lodge. He said, "dont tell RacerX about this" and had me hold that as a secrete of a Master Mason.
Crap! I thought about that for one day, then went ahead and told RacerX because he too is a Master Mason, and this is certainly danger!
The secretary went through the roof when he found out and said I violated my obligation.
So, we have kinky sex, guns, drugs, defamation of character and business, and financial issues.

An added note here, one of the problems is RacerX and I have quit attending lodge. One would think that would satisfy the Monkeys. This has turned out not to be the case.
The Harassment has continued. This is our town we were born here, the Monkeys have filtered in from elsewhere.
Since the situation is out of control and Grand Lodge even states they cant control them, we must take control and put a stop to further damage to us and our families.
I personally told the Grand Master to control it or I will, he has failed. So now I take control and deal with it as I see fit.
If some dont like how I deal with things, then they need a plan review.


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posted on Mar, 27 2008 @ 07:39 PM
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