Are you guys going to take the advice of staff or what?

Last Chance.

Originally posted by HDFACTORYCERTIF

Augustus, you should know better! Consorting with a cowan.

You are, I assume, refering to yourself with this remark?

You have failed every test even a middling Mason would know. Your inability to answer these simple question proves you to be no member of the Institution and for this I am truly thankful as it means all of your claims can be, in my opinion, viewed as bogus. You have been tried and denied.

Originally posted by HDFACTORYCERTIF
How would anyone know you Agustus, to be as such, what you spewed forth is not any recognized Masonic sign and you do know that.
Now, what did the Master of the lodge say to you before you approached the alter to take your obligation. You have forgotten that very important part that cuts to heart of the Problem lodge.
I will spell it out clear for all to see.

I will no longer be responding to your posts as I feel that this thread has run its course and the facts have been revealed. Unless any new information arises, which I am fairly certain it will not, there is no further need to address this topic.

Thank you Augustus, now that you have departed, others will not feel intimidated and the discussion can move in a forward direction.
For others information, all signs of recognition are contained in the initiations of the three degrees. That is, the signs are given to the candidate upon each degree.

Man!! I can not beleave 8042 views on this thread!! There are alot of people here that dont beleave what HD has brought up for discussion. I would have to say at this point " Monkey Mason" is the least of their problems.
I think the IRS is wondering where the money went!!! I have to figure HD finds talking about all this chat helps him deal with the frustrations of being involved with masons of this level never the less, the truth is the truth!! and I will have to second and PASS!!! I think it is a shame grand lodge has failed to show any leadership in bringing this matter to resolution, but infact just attempted to cover the whole deal up to avoid a very public embarrassment.

I hold the proof that says the obligations are only meaningless words, right from a grand lodge deputy... to my email. Im sure this is why the GL dismissed all corrispodance by email discussing these matters..

ALL IS TRUE!!!!! Three degrees of

Wow. I missed the entertainment.

Sorry.

It's humourous though how the back-ups are brought in, isn't it?

Think I'll hibernate. See you guys in the Spring.

Originally posted by HDFACTORYCERTIF
For others information, all signs of recognition are contained in the initiations of the three degrees. That is, the signs are given to the candidate upon each degree.

Surely HDFACTORYCERTIF you didn't mean to say "ALL" signs of recognition.

Because yes, there are Three Lodge Degrees.

There is NO degree HIGHER (in other words more important) than the THIRD Degree, but there are a TON of Masonic Degrees. I've taken several dozen of them myself, as have others on this list.

And just about EVERY one of 'em has a "sign of recognition"

Believe me the Sign of Recognition of the Degree of the Holy House of Jesus Christ and the Temple of Solomon is NOT given in ANY of the three Lodge degrees. One must be a recipient of that particular degree to be privy to it's recognition sign, grip (hand-shake) and pass-word.

Just wanted to make sure you understood that before you misinformed others.

Originally posted by RACER X
Man!! I can not beleave 8042 views on this thread!! There are alot of people here that dont beleave what HD has brought up for discussion. I would have to say at this point " Monkey Mason" is the least of their problems.

Embezzlement of millions, illict arms manufacturing, threats of physical violence, humans acting like primates and all of this supposedly emanating from a Masonic lodge. I can only assume that everyones disbelief stems from the fact that none of this made the evening news. Not one article, not one mention, not even a whiff of it here on Above Top Secret where, if true, would incite a frenzy of unrivaled recrimination.

I think it is a shame grand lodge has failed to show any leadership in bringing this matter to resolution, but infact just attempted to cover the whole deal up to avoid a very public embarrassment.

The only shame is that some on this forum actually believed the allegations and in my opinion, the only 'public embarrasment' I was witness to was an indivdual posturing himself as something he was not.

Can I ask you a question RacerX? What has your States Attorney General commented regarding the allegations you and HD have made? These are serious crimes and allegations and it appears that you approach them rather cavalierly, I myself would allow the proper authorities to handle them, not the membership of a conspiracy forum.