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reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 04:48 PM by Tamahu
Originally posted by LightinDarkness
Aww shucks, don't like to be held accountable for the things you type, eh? I was specifically asking about THIS:

Originally posted by Tamahu
In fact, even though Caucasians have committed most of the racist oppression on this planet within the last few-hundred, if not thousands of years;


If you are going to make sweeping generalizations, don't do it in a thread where I am watching. I will call you out on it.

I have agreed to stop bumping this post, so I won't respond to anymore posts in this thread. So congrats, you get the "last word" again - enjoy it!




Ah, well thanks again for "the last word".


But you mis-quoted me again.



Here's the entire paragraph:



Originally posted by Tamahu
In fact, even though Caucasians have committed most of the racist oppression on this planet within the last few-hundred, if not thousands of years; Caucasians(Western-culture rather) have, as a whole, been more accepting than other cultures of unnatural and harmful behaviors such as homosexuality(not to mention pollution, nuclear bombs, pesticides, genetic grafting, etc.)




Who could be blind enough to assert that Western "civilization" has not been the most responsible for the things listed here?

I'm not saying that Western Culture does not have it's own Beautiful aspects.


And I'm not saying that everything that someone posted needs to be addressed every single time.

But please at least address the other parts of what they posted which are relevant to what you're addressing, as to keep it in the entire context of what the poster you are addressing originally intended.




[edit on 22-12-2007 by Tamahu]


reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 01:43 AM by HDFACTORYCERTIF
Wow, I have been gone awhile very busy, but I am back.
This thread was a warning to higher ups, but was not taken serious. Thats too bad. I always give warning of approaching danger.
I have bad news, " Our Brother RacerX is under attack".
Yes, Monkey Masons are involved. As I have explained before I can not post the actual lodge, but anyone with a brain may be able to piece some facts together from what is forth coming.
I will link you to another web site, a machinist web site. On this site I am very well known as a precision machinist and have made close to 3000 post.
I started this post about Brother Master Mason RacerX you will link to, read it if you want. Now, two replies down, I link to photos on photobucket look at the first one carefully. When on these photos move over to the right and click on album. There are 2 photos of my old friend Ernest Cuska of Cycles Alex Singer, keep looking through "several pages" and you will see ME and what I do, interest and ect.
It has began, war was declared and waged upon RacerX and I by the Monkey Masons, and war it is, but our battle field will be in court.
We will systematically undue all that has been done to us with the same extreme precision that I perform on the Monarch Toolmakers lathe in those photos, that is how I do things, "I am not a social worker".
I intend to drive the Monkey Masons out of the fraternity, and it will be slow, steady and thorough, a lesson for all that think, The Obligation Are Meaningless Words.
As always, I will answer any questions that I can----enjoy
www.practicalmachinist.com...

[edit on 15-2-2008 by HDFACTORYCERTIF]


reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 12:05 PM by mmmeat
reply to post by HDFACTORYCERTIF



Err...what?

What Lodge are you talking about? What is a monkey Mason? What relevance to this thread does what you've written have?

It seems that you're unwilling to name the Lodge, yet you're willing to go to court. Court papers are public information, and most court documents are available online. So name the Lodge.

Your pal,
Meat.


reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 02:38 PM by The Axeman
reply to post by HDFACTORYCERTIF



And your retort, cheifly the personal attacks contained therein, was uncalled for.

I have come to the conclusion that there is little if anything any of us here can do for your situation.

Pursue whatever course of action you deem appropriate; however I would personally discourage your discussing it on ATS further than you already have.

You have stated your case and your questions; the brethren here assembled have answered as each sees fit. This thread has run its course IMHO.

It is your choice to "crusade" in defense of the Craft, and if that is your chosen course of action then so be it... but I submit the following: A good brother once said to me (and others), "Masonry is not about ME changing THEM -- it's about ME changing ME!"

Think about it.

My advice as a Brother is to find another lodge, encourage those members who disapprove as you do to do the same, and let the monkey business play out the way it will. Obviously your attempts to rectify the situation have failed for whatever reason. The only official body that can help you, Masonically speaking, is the GL... if they have failed to act, then your options are clear, and YOU must make the choice.

I have watched and researched this situation over the past couple of months and at this point I must withdraw my participation in it and leave it to you to deal with, through whatever reasonable method is left to you.

Good luck and travel safely.

[edit on 2/15/08 by The Axeman]


reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 02:41 PM by The Axeman
reply to post by mmmeat



Mmmeat... you should read the whole thread.

Calling a somewhat on-topic post (which that happens to be) "off-topic" only shows that you are not aware of the topic at hand or the context in which it is being discussed.

Practice what you preach, dude.

With respect,
Axe



reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 09:13 PM by Dr_Suess
reply to post by mmmeat



The reference to the machining thread was to give a clue to the whereabouts of his location. You have to follow the rabbit trail.


reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 03:50 PM by AugustusMasonicus
reply to post by HDFACTORYCERTIF



Why do you not direct us to the releavant news articles that corroborate these allegations? Time and again you have been asked to verify your assertions and you continue to avoid doing so, perhaps you can provide the information that supports your claims. I look forward to its divulgence.


reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 06:27 PM by The Axeman
reply to post by HDFACTORYCERTIF



Think about this: not one of us here on ATS can do jack squat about anything that is happening in your GL. Hence, this is the wrong audience at this point. The correct audience would be other MM's in your jurisdiction who would take exception to these occurrences and take action.

Get with other lodges in your state and hold the GL Officers accountable, or demit, or go to a different lodge.

Really those are your only choices, as far as the monkey business. The other stuff... I dunno what to tell you man.
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