Originally posted by paraclete1
As for the disappearing airplane, I saw a video recently that showed a con trail forming, but nothing in front of it. And it's been rumored that the B-2 have a cloaking technology, but it was also rumored that it had a type of hyperspace device too. And I'm reminded of the 100th SG-1 epsiode... "Wouldn't the Air Force stop this from being shown? No, if anyone finds out about the stargate program, this gives them plausible deniability." So if it was on Stargate, it might be real.

Well, there were no contrails, and maybe someone here can answer that -- could it be because of the weather, the high humidity level with so many clouds already in the sky? Or would that make the contrails more visible? Either way, there were none.

As far as the hyperspace idea, I think we have to rule that one out for this scenario, paraclete1. The sound of the jets continued 10 - 12 seconds after they vanished. And it wasn't an abrupt halting of the sound. It was a normal fade-away sound as the jet gets farther away and the sound level is not loud enough for you to hear.

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Hey, what about my meta-material theory? That doesn't seem valid to you?

Originally posted by Beachcoma
Hey, what about my meta-material theory? That doesn't seem valid to you?

Oh, I have no idea. I'm sure it could be. It's probably the most likely answer. I just know what I saw, not what it is made of.

This brings to mind the Philadelphia Experiment, where the navy allegedly tried to render a ship invisible to observers. Of course, the navy claimed it to be a hoax, but it was said to take place in the 1940s. If true, imagine how far the technology could have come since then in the last 60+ years! Just something to think about...

Sounds like a gravity wave cloak that bends the light around it.
It also allows the B-2 to travel in nonlinear time. - Burn less fuel-
United Airlines could save $$$ using this technology.
5 hour trip would seem like only 45 minutes.

this si interesting over the past few weeksive been seeing bright nonblinking sets of air craft flying over clovis and dissappearing my assumption was they left the atmosphere and were too far for me to be able to see i think we maybe testing new aircraft with these capabilities this just started happening since cannon AFB became a special ops base

just right now...over henderson nevada ...i saw a bomber of some sort. i am no expert. i cant say what kind of plane it was. maybe a b 52 bomber site..it couldnt have been more than 300 feet in the sky..it was flying low...with two planes sort of escorting it in the sky...flying a perimeter around its flight path.....

i am new, i just registered..but found this site about a week ago. also in vegas in the past two weeks..i have seen blackhawks circling around within 2 days of each other ...the first time was a pack of three..the second time just two. and now this.....

anyways....please elaborate on possible types of planes. it was flying low and very slow...almost like it was hovering....

also my time zone is off..it is 720 here in vegas..how do i change my time zone?

I am one that thinks that the real secret to the stealth, is that it goes beyond just stealth to radar, I think the top secret is it is capable of physical or at least like someone said, cloaking to the naked eye...I have always thought this to be the case.

on the other hand, when you saw the craft you said they were pretty high up, was there some cloud cover or even some that was heavy enough to make it seem like they dissapeared, the other liklihood is they went into high altitude vertical ascent.
Cheers.

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I'll have to find the documentory I was watchingon planes and ufo it had an ex employee of a plane companyand he was of milatary back ground He was talking about how plane tech is 50 years advanced and in testing a this very moment so who's to say they can't make a plane invisable I'll have a dig around and see if I can find it.

Makes you think though really what advanced tech 50 years is reallyand what they can do with it?

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I was also thinking it takes about 50 years for the general public to find out what was being worked on in secret. I'm thinking 40 years from now, what if anti-gravity is common and the ability to bend space time is common? A plane could disappear by simply emerging into the warped space time bubble created and reappear somewhere else. If you look at common aircraft from 50 or 60 years ago, the jet engine was a novel concept not really used except later on in WWII. The public would have been alarmed by jet aircraft if they saw them flying around in the sky during WWII about 60 or so years ago.

That would be some neat technology if you could bend space time and say launch a missile and then have it arrive at its target on the other side of the planet in seconds. I would be alarmed if I saw a missile suddenly disappear. Whether its stealth or something else, it hard for enemies to shoot down what they can't see. I can only hope our technology is that advanced.

Originally posted by phinubian
the other hand, when you saw the craft you said they were pretty high up, was there some cloud cover or even some that was heavy enough to make it seem like they dissapeared, the other liklihood is they went into high altitude vertical ascent.
Cheers.

No, they did not shoot straight up nor did they did not diverge from their course. Like I said, they were traveling in a straight line, neither descending or gaining altitude. They did not penetrate the cloud cover. And as far as I know, B-2's dont function like VTOL Harriers. But if they had some kind of anti-grav technology, then who knows. But again, this wouldn't fit in with the jet sounds they made.

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If they had longer wings, perhaps it had a new energy source. Wider wings= more wight capacity. Perhaps it was needed for the stealth device.

Originally posted by mranderson169
just right now...over henderson nevada ...i saw a bomber of some sort. i am no expert. i cant say what kind of plane it was. maybe a b 52 bomber site..it couldnt have been more than 300 feet in the sky..

Are you sure about it being 300 feet? That the lenght of a football field and at that height, you should have been able to count rivits. As for the escort aircraft, could it have been an air to air refueling mission. Don't they usually fly in groups of 2 or 4 and all fly together while the refueling is in progress?

Hi Pjslug,

Thanks for the post, it certainly sounds very interesting. I'm not a big believer in the 'phase shifting effect' theory, if it were possible to 'phase' from one place in space-time to another (even if it was a by-product of a cloaking device) it wouldn't make much sense to test or use it on an airframe. Teleporting devices could be any shape, therefore a container full of bombs and the means to drop them is all that is required, not an aircraft.

As for other recently discussed cloaking techs, plasma stealth appears to be the most plausible. See intelgurl's excellent sticky on this.
If we assume it is plasma stealh you witnessed then we reach another problem, sound.

And the sound I heard today was definitely coming from the direction these aircraft were travelling in, and after the aircraft vanished, so did the sound about 10 - 12 seconds later.

No plausible cloaking technology recently discussed gives a good explanation as to why sound would also be cloaked, sound and light cloaking are two extremely different systems. So unless we're to believe that total visual cloaking systems have been developed as well as total sound cloaking systems, and that both are being tested/used on the same airframe at once, we are stuck!

Without photographic evidence you are going to get people suggesting that the chances of looking up into a small patch of the sky hoping to see exactly what you did over a populated area are about as small as they get! You can't blame them for suggesting that you either imagined it, or it was a natural phenomonen due to atmospherics.

I hope it wasn't a figment of your imagination and that this technology really is flying! Kepp a camera handy next time you nip out! ;-)

Cheers

Robbie

Originally posted by stratsys-sws
No plausible cloaking technology recently discussed gives a good explanation as to why sound would also be cloaked, sound and light cloaking are two extremely different systems. So unless we're to believe that total visual cloaking systems have been developed as well as total sound cloaking systems, and that both are being tested/used on the same airframe at once, we are stuck!

Hi Robbie,
I never said the sound was cloaked. I said it faded away like a normal jet sound 10 - 12 seconds after the jets vanished, due to the distance it had traveled away from me. Please go re-read the posts.

Thanks.