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Originally posted by Palasheea
I'm seeing some startling differences in the facial features ...
Originally posted by Palasheea
Garabandal ... Padro Pio believed that what happened there was from God and not the Devil... like the Church does.
Originally posted by cw034
6 days after the third secret was revealed the world would start to come to an end.
Originally posted by Palasheea
that 100,000 people witnessed that dancing of the sun event.
Source: www.tldm.org...
The Third Secret was to be revealed in 1960 as chosen by Our Lady:
Lucy 1: In 1946 Canon Barthas asked Sister Lucy why the world must wait until 1960 for the revelation of the Secret. Sister Lucy gave two reasons for this particular date: first, "because the Blessed Virgin wishes it so," and also because "it will be clearer then."
Lucy 2: Contradiction: the new Sister Lucy says she chose the date, not Our Lady. The Vatican's official document and commentary on The Message of Fatima quotes from a April 27, 2000 interview of the new Sister Lucy: Archbishop Bertone therefore asked: “Why only after 1960? Was it Our Lady who fixed that date?” Sister Lucia replied: “It was not Our Lady. I fixed the date because I had the intuition that before 1960 it would not be understood, but that only later would it be understood."
Source: www.tldm.org...
The conversion of Russia:
Lucy 1: Our Lady of Fatima said in 1917, “In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to Me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.”
Lucy 2: Contradiction: The new Sister Lucy said in 1992 that "the Virgin did not request the conversion of Russia to Catholicism". She even points to the cosmetic changes in Russia as "proof" that Russia is now converted.
Source: www.tldm.org...
On the reality of hell, and that many go there:
Lucy 1: On July 13, 1917, Our Lady of Fatima showed the three shepherd children, Lucy, Francisco, and Jacinta, a vision of hell. Then Our Lady told them, "You have seen hell, where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to My Immaculate Heart."
Throughout her whole life, Sister Lucy never forgot this horrifying vision of hell and of the damned. On October 13, 1953, Fr. Lombardi asked her, "Do you really believe that many people go to hell?" He also told her, "Certainly, the world is a cesspool of vices ... But there is always hope of salvation." Sister Lucy replied, "No, Father, many are lost."
Jacinta often lamented the sad fact that so many went to hell: "So many fall into hell! So many are in hell!"
Sister Lucy also wrote to a young seminarian these words: "Do not be surprised that I speak to you so much about hell. This is one truth that it is necessary to recall often in these times, because we forget that souls are falling into hell in droves."
Lucy 2: Contradiction: According to the new Sister Lucy in a reported 1992 interview, she stated, "God condemns no one to hell".
Kerrichin
definatly somthing going on wouldnt surprise me if the vatigan has killed the original sister off anything to keep there precious church and money.
its well known by most people the vatigan and the cathlic church are not about god but about money and control
Originally posted by seentoomuch
Contradiction: The new Sister Lucy said in 1992 that "the Virgin did not request the conversion of Russia to Catholicism".
Contradiction: According to the new Sister Lucy in a reported 1992 interview, she stated, "God condemns no one to hell".
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I have another problem, though. Usually those with Portuguese, Mulatto, Mediterranean, or Semitic features will experience that such features in their face will INTENSIFY as they age.
The young sister Lucy from 1917 to 1946 has very, very strong Mulatto / Portuguese features. The post 1967 Sister Lucy seems to have lost these pronounced Portuguese features completely, in favor of a northern European, Danish, Germanic look.
traditioninaction.org...
as Fr. Fuentes, a long time confident of Sister Lucy, gave a lengthy report in word and in print about his last meeting with Sister Lucy in 1957. This is reproduced on the Fatima Website. He believed that he was talking to the real Sister Lucy, and he would be in a position to know. Also, other priests who had been confessors and confidants to Sister Lucy were allowed to see her up until 1959. None of these priests raised any alarm about the identity of the pre 1958 Sister Lucy.
After John XXIII assumed control of the Vatican after the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958, all of these long time confessors and confidants were forbidden to see Sister Lucy at all. The break was abrupt, total, and complete. As I understand it, a priest from a Communist country, Fr. Kondor, was brought in to be the gatekeeper for Sister Lucy (or Sister Lucy II?), and he remained the gatekeeper until 2005, the announced death of Sister Lucy.
After the 1957 Fr. Fuentes interview, which is unquestionably authentic, the next time Sister Lucy emerged was in 1967 – and this was the alleged Danish-Germanic looking Sister Lucy II, who never mentioned the 3rd secret again – a subject that was of very grave concern to Sister Lucy in her 1957 interview with Fr. Fuentes.
I suppose that the person who wrote this is not a Portuguese...
The young sister Lucy from 1917 to 1946 has very, very strong Mulatto / Portuguese features. The post 1967 Sister Lucy seems to have lost these pronounced Portuguese features completely, in favor of a northern European, Danish, Germanic look.
Originally posted by seentoomuch
reply to post by ArMaP
I believe what this person is saying is that young Lucy was dark olive skinned and in later photos she looks fair. Is that normal for a Portuguese person?
STM
[edit on 9/22/2007 by seentoomuch]
No problem.
Originally posted by seentoomuch
Sorry it disturbed you, ArMaP, it was not intended.
I did not interpreted it that way, I think that the idea is that the general look of Lucy when old is not the way that person thinks a Mulatto/Portuguese (whatever that is) looks when he/she gets old.
I believe what this person is saying is that young Lucy was dark olive skinned and in later photos she looks fair. Is that normal for a Portuguese person?