Ohio Woman Tasered 5+ Times, Plus kicked, page 2
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reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 09:59 AM by Redge777
reply to post by TruthWithin



That is not the point we been making, or at least I have been making, it is not to get someone to stop acting a certain way, it is to get them to do something. Their is a differance. Plus he just kept zapping and zapping her.


reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 10:03 AM by TruthWithin
reply to post by Redge777



Redge, I grant you that this is an excessive case. But at the same point, if you have the CHOICE of physically pinning someone down who is flailing around and resisting arrest or tasering them, which would you pick?

I am not saying this guy was right, but we don't know the full story on this either.



reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 10:11 AM by Redge777
Originally posted by Redge777
reply to
post by minnie

Warren Ohio contact info and home page
www.warren.org...

Mod Edit: Removed phone numbers. Anyone withing to contact the administration in Warren, Ohio, can do so via the link above.
[edit on 21-9-2007 by Crakeur]


the phone numbers if you wish to express your concern are located on this public web page for the city of Warren Ohio.

City council
www.warren.org...

Mayor and Public Service and Safety Director
www.warren.org...


reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 12:03 PM by Yarcofin
How do you know she is innocent or that they aren't taking ordinary measures? You didn't see what happened prior to this footage, she could have come at them with a knife. The fact that she didn't get out of the car when asked suggests there is obviously something else going on... police don't just ask you to get out of the car when you get pulled over for speeding unless there is reasonable grounds to suspect something else. She could have been driving drunk (certainly acting like it), or the car could have been stolen, you don't know, you just see 30 seconds of footage. The fact that she didn't get out of the car makes it her own damn fault.

For one thing at 23-25 seconds you can clearly see her arms spread wide apart, while the text on the screen says she is handcuffed. I am led to believe that this footage has been taken entirely out of context.

How else would you like the officer to try and get someone to stop being unruly and comply? She was warned several times... it's either a taser (temporary, no damage), or the cop would have to punch her in the face. I would much rather be electricuted for 20 seconds than have black eyes and a broken jaw.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm totally against what happened to the student asking questions of John Kerry, but I think there is something completely different going on here. Now people are just starting to post video of actual criminals legitimately recieving shocks for the sake of it and claiming it as something else by putting an emotion-invoking title like "Old woman tasered"

[edit on 9/21/2007 by Yarcofin]


reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 12:05 PM by apc
Originally posted by Redge777
Warren Ohio contact info and home page
www.warren.org...

I've written the city through their feedback form and expressed my feelings on this matter. I compel others to do the same.

It must be made clear to these offenders that if this continues they are going to trigger a violent uprising that will make the LA Riots look like a gay pride parade.


reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 12:09 PM by Redge777
Originally posted by TruthWithin
reply to
post by Redge777



Redge, I grant you that this is an excessive case. But at the same point, if you have the CHOICE of physically pinning someone down who is flailing around and resisting arrest or tasering them, which would you pick?

I am not saying this guy was right, but we don't know the full story on this either.



If there are four or five cops, just grab and arm and cuff them. If the officer has fear for his safety or others then use a taser, I believe that use to be the standard for use of less lethal force. I do not believe they need to say, well the police might twist and ankle. If they have to you can hog tie them and carry them out with four people. No harm or threat to police.

One on one taser them, but to taser someone to get them to comply is simply by definision torture.

I predict prisons will begin using tasers regulary, and it too will turn into torture to get compliance, it will start with when they have to do a cell raid, then it will move into the guy who ask for a better fitting sandle.

[edit on 21-9-2007 by Redge777]


reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 12:26 PM by CyborgPirateNinjaJesus
Recently this past year. I bought my friend a 1,000,000 volt taser/stun gun. Naturally he wanted to try so i let you QUICKLY tag me on my left arm. I wanted to punch him in face(but being my friend, a gift, etc, all was cool). Anyways i like to spar on occasion, so i proposed that we do something like that. I put on my 8 once sparring gloves, and he had his infamous device. We started out, he was not as fast as I, thank god for me. But eventually he got me right in the ribs. Then shock was so sudden and jolting, my mind left the scenario and I buried my fist in his chest(knocked the wind out of him, but he's fine). This thing is the size of a pack of cigarettes, when the button is pushed, one hears the loudest crack ever from a stun gun. Very intimidating(never did it since). I guess my aim with this is that was just something available on the Internet(e bay, budk, random site such as these), imagine how strong Law Enforcement tasers are. Plus those guns shoot prongs into the skin, far worse then surface contact. Why couldn't "brawny" officers wrestle her down??? That force is far too unnecessary, I have had to play "bouncer" and restrain people (i.e. drunks out of control at parties, fights, you name it ) and those were big guys. Never needed anything but to hold them until they are tired. I've met alot of bouncers and they don't use tasers(big guys and not so big). So why couldn't those police restrain her? Afraid of getting bit? Plus why don't these tasers knocked them out immediately? Because they are not designed to. They just hurt like hell. I agree this is just "legalized torture" for all to see, if they think of "getting out of line". I'm not just talking $H!t, i were to be tasered, that cop in going down . Screw the consequences just because there are more of them does not mean we concede. Who knows maybe I'm just another crazy person waiting to act out and get what's coming to me when I "cross the line". But if no one else will help me, then all I have is me. And I will not stand down. - cpNJ

Once I have the ability, I will be posting some interesting videos.



reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 01:13 PM by Redge777
reply to post by apc


Well said I agree completly

Remember there were two cop cars there so there were other cops there that could have helpped subdue her or carry her to the other cars. Did you see the charges they threw at her, luckily after this video she is going to have a line of lawyers waiting to help her.

[edit on 21-9-2007 by Redge777]


reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 01:25 PM by Redge777
reply to post by ATSGUY



Because we are conditioned. I ask you how many cop shows do you have on TV, we have at least 20 all with super human cops putting down the super scum of the earth.

Every weakend one of our news shows runs about 4 hours of prison life to show america how bad prison is and to further condition the authority / peasant thinking. Another shows 4 hours of the worst criminals and how they were caught.

The media supports police and authority almost always.

Americans are domesticated cattle.

Look at some old popular tv shows that you never see anymore, they were shows where the daring individual made the differance and police were less smart beuracracies. Barreta, Rockford, Dirty Harry, Dukes of Hazard, Maverick, Magnum PI, A team, ect.. There are no shows like this now. All good guys are authority, all bad guys are criminals or terrorist. And they dont even show reruns! I miss rockford!

I might just do an article on this
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