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Al Qaeda 'To Declare War On Musharraf'

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posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:13 AM
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Al Qaeda 'To Declare War On Musharraf


news.sky.com

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is to release a new video in which he declares war on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and the Pakistani army, according to an Islamist website.
(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.reuters.com

[edit on 20-9-2007 by Denied]




posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:13 AM
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Well i know most people think this is all propaganda to spread and instill fear, maybe it is.
Just an idea, but what if OBL manages in some way to take over Pakistan, he'd then have a few nukes at his disposal no?

news.sky.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by Denied

if OBL manages in some way to take over Pakistan, he'd then have a few nukes at his disposal no?

Bin Laden already has nukes, and he is hiding in Chitral.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by Hellmutt

Originally posted by Denied

if OBL manages in some way to take over Pakistan, he'd then have a few nukes at his disposal no?

Bin Laden already has nukes, and he is hiding in Chitral.


Thats some well researched threads there

Are all these things just pieces of the puzzle coming together?

Is it possible for OBL to declare war on Pakistan and take over it?



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 07:41 AM
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Here is the AP article on OBL's announcement against Musharraf:


Bin Laden tape to declare war on Musharraf

CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden will release a new message soon declaring war on Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, al-Qaida announced Thursday.

The announcement of the upcoming message came as al-Qaida released a new video in which bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, boasted that the United States was being defeated in Afghanistan, Iraq and other fronts.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 09:44 AM
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Hey jack -
What ever happened to the 3rd video that reportedly came out last week? Any word on that?

It is strange that there was ZERO mention of that on US news.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 09:51 AM
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Another one? Somebodys been working overtime splicing old video to create all these vids.

Can't imagine who would want to see the darn thing, since its 80 minutes long, and 209 mb. However, if your so inclined, the video can be downloaded here (rm format)courtesy Laura Mansfield, who also has screen cap pics, and a brief analysis of the video.

SITE also has screen cap pics an analysis.

Its a sure bet that a few here will be looking for the "original" out in "the wild". Especially since some reports about the last OBL video indicate that portions of it were altered, or at least deleted. Perhaps they will post a link to that video.

One interesting analysis from a different source says that the video was meant to be seen after the attacks in Germany, Denmark, and Turkey. All three of those attacks failed though. So, while the video claims victory, its a non-victory which in reality shows AQ's increasing incompetence at anything outside the Iraq theater, where even their best efforts consist only of sporadic, small scale, and only partially successful suicide bombings.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 01:24 PM
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The video made its way to google video, no need for that huge download if ya don't wanna.

Here is the link



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 01:31 PM
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Dear old Bini is at it again, I guess it got tire of the US and now its going after Pakistan.

What many seems oblivious off is that the Pakistani government is having a hard time keeping his strong hold on the nation that he took by coup.

But He is our president's friend and our friend.

Still the population of Pakistan is mostly pro taliban, they don't like Israel and neither US, they also were one of the countries that celebrated the 9/11 attacks on their streets.

Interesting to add like many already knows that Pakistan have nuclear weapons that will be very handy in the hands of the unsatisfied Pakistani pro taliban population.

Soo, who is more dangerous right now in the middle east.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 01:56 PM
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It's widely believed by intelligence experts that Osama is hiding
on the Pakistan side of the Pakistan/Afghanistan border. Yet
Musharraf won't allow U.S. forces to enter his country to hunt
Bin Laden down. How does that make Musharraf our "close
friend and ally" as the news outlets and Pres. Bush keep
declaring?


You know what? It may be true, as some have hinted in this
thread, that Osama Bin Laden has built his support network
strong enough to attempt to take over Pakistan. This news
article www.thenews.com.pk... states
that OBL is now MORE popular than President Musharraf in
his own country!

The very guy that Musharraf has allegedly been protecting
is now about to turn on him.. How ironic. I bet we'll soon
see him allow the U.S. to use any and all necessary means
to find Osama inside of Pakistan. He's probably very scared
right now. I would be.


[edit on 20-9-2007 by carewemust]



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 02:06 PM
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Perhaps because the reality is that China has much more influence over Mushi than the U.S.

A good example is the Red Mosque. Mushi wouldn't do anything about it for months, despite pressure from the U.S. Until they kidnapped a couple of China's people. Only then did Mushi go to work.

And why not? The U.S. provides a few million in support. China provides billions.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:35 PM
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Too suspicious for a lengthly explaination...

another video of old tape footage of the two AQ leadership,
with a lot of dialogue with accompaning stills, to aid in believing
your hearing recent OBL rants, fatwas, etc


i'm suspiciuos that a raft of 3rd class AQ videos are leading the masses
toread-in that AQ is actually on-the-ropes, and this onslaught of tapes
and fear messages are in 'desperation'.

it also would fit, that this focus on Pakistan & Musharraf, is to spur on
the pre-emptive 'securing' of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal by the 'West',
so as to deny nuclear WMDs falling into the hands of AQ or Taliban militia...
or before Pakistan is taken by insurgents and it too becomes another 'Rogue' state.

this all could be part of a False Flag and convoluted operation to seize
a member of the Nuclear Club, by making the world believe Pakistan & Musharraf will soon turn into anothe Iraq, where scores of insurgents
and militant Islamists battle the established govt and each other....
for the 'prize' the small but sizeable nuclear arsenal.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 04:42 PM
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I posted something along the line of OBL's backing for one of the two contenders for the new Pakistani leadership on another thread. No intention of being a 'spammer in the works' save for this article which I think is pertinent to what agenda OBL is trying to achieve...money+military assets at his disposal=backing for the 'right' candidate for the job?



Former Pakistani PM met Bin Laden discussed Jihad - says ex intelligence agent

Karachi, 20 March (AKI) - (Syed Saleem Shahzad) - Former Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif did meet al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at least three times in order to get financial help, according to Khalid Khawaja, the former official with Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). In an exclusive interview with Adnkronos International (AKI), Khawaja, once a close friend of Osama bin Laden, rejected the statements by a spokesperson for Sharif's political party, denying that Sharif had sought political cooperation from bin Laden in the past.


"Nawaz Sharif met Osama Bin Laden on at least three occasions and was desperately seeking his financial assistance," Khawaja told AKI in response to recent news reports regarding a possible meeting between the two.

In an interview with a national Urdu daily, Qazi Hussain Ahmad, the leader of the largest Islamic party in Pakistan, the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), and of the six party religious alliance MMA, said that Nawaz had repeatedly met Osama bin Laden who offered him money to buy the loyalties of parlimentarians in the late 1980s in order to topple the government of then prime minister Benazir Bhutto. Ahmad also said that bin Laden was a big supporter of Nawaz Sharif's bid to be prime minister in 1990.


Both Sharif and Bhutto are vying for power in the vacuum that will be left after Musharraf goes...there is much at stake if, according to this report, OBL is assisting Sharif's bid for the throne as he has done previously





October 1990: Bin Laden Helps Install Pakistani Leader
In October 1990, Nawaz Sharif is running for election to replace Benazir Bhutto as the prime minister of Pakistan. According to a senior Pakistani intelligence source, bin Laden passes a considerable amount of money to Sharif and his party, since Sharif promises to introduce a hard-line Islamic government. Bin Laden has been supporting Sharif for several years. There is said to be a photograph of Sharif chatting with bin Laden. Sharif wins the election and while he does not introduce a hard-line Islamic government, his rule is more amenable to bin Laden’s interests than Bhutto’s had been. Sharif will stay in power until 1993, then will take over from Bhutto again in 1996 and rule for three more years.


I think this warrants further digging...

[edit on 20-9-2007 by citizen smith]



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 08:28 PM
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If OBL does overthrow Pakistan the Secular World will definitely come in and defuse Islam in the name of peace and security. To make it fair Christendom and Judaism will have to lose some of their extreme ways as well.

Once the middle east turns secular, then there will be peace and security.



posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by lostinspace
If OBL does overthrow Pakistan the Secular World will definitely come in and defuse Islam in the name of peace and security. To make it fair Christendom and Judaism will have to lose some of their extreme ways as well.

Once the middle east turns secular, then there will be peace and security.


Dont you think that the majority of hard line muslims would unite?


Secularism is generally the assertion or belief that certain practices or institutions should exist separately from religion or religious belief. Alternatively, it is a principle of promoting secular ideas or values in either public or private settings. It may also be a synonym for "secularist movement". In the extreme, it is an ideology that holds that religion has no place in public life.


Emphasis mine, do you really think that religion will have no place in public life in the middle east?



posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Denied
Dont you think that the majority of hard line muslims would unite?


It wouldn't be just the hard liner's that would unite, the vast majority of muslim countries would unite due to what will likely be described as a new crusades against the muslims, there would also likely be problem's in western countries like France and the UK where there are large muslim population's.



posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 05:07 AM
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Al Qaeda 'To Declare War On Musharraf

You know, this dude must be getting board living in a mansion hole under some tribal-fool's outhouse. With all that time he spends alone what else can he do but conjure up some targets to murder.
Binny's not just a terrorist murderer anymore, he has a new title, one sure to bring him down ie: Assassin

Musharraf's been through a few close calls over the years and I feel he's conditioned to threats as a result. But if Binny's more popular than Musharraf in Pakistan, then the President may have some troubles coming he may not be able to side step.

Musharraf's been the surprise supporter of the USA, public ally at least. Without him, I'm sure the Pakistan search for Binny with move from the present Snails pace, to non-existent.

Dallas



posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 07:00 AM
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Fear not Bin Laden, because he is actually DEAD for some time!

www.whatreallyhappened.com...

Incredible how America doesn´t have heroes anymore, only nemesis.

C'mon America, wake up from this nightmare!

See ya



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