If it gets crazy in U.S, what country to move to?

I know this post is somewhat misguided, but
I rather be wondering for the rest of my life in the desert sands then fight an army I know I wouldn't able to win against.

Directly or indirectly.


And I know I wouldn't able to win against such insanity, let alone survive in it.

If you wanted to fight for such a cause, you better have some method or plan to do the damage en mass and under the radar to increase the survival rate in your odds.

Even if that means running like coward for the hills,

I rather be the coward that comes back with an A-bomb a few years later to win the world then be a hero who dies in the first few minutes of a war.

And if you go down, you better have a way to take them down with you, hard.

That's my opinion,
Take it or leave it.

[edit on 26-4-2008 by Ihavenoidea]

reply to post by Agit8dChop

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I absolutely agree... It will take alot of effort for someone to come all the way down to the pacific just to take over little old NZ and for what? we are in the middle of the ocean away from everyone...

I mean would the Australia Government shut its borders? they do it all the time for illegal immigrants who try to sail over in a boat, and end up pushing them onto NZ to deal with. At least we would take you in....

(no offense intended to any australians, I am just relating what has happened in the past)

reply to post by mrsdudara

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Just curious if that law of drafting would still apply if you gave up your american citizenship for the country you are now residing in?


edited for spelling

[edit on 26-4-2008 by misswanderer31]

I don't know what it would do for you during a draft.

Depends on what you did to give it up.

[edit on 26-4-2008 by Ihavenoidea]

I always thought that Switzerland or Austrailia would be good places to live....but....I'm sure that when it hits the fan, its gonna hit everywhere....maybe no place is actually as safe as we think....

New Zealand is about as out of the way as you can get. Remote northern areas of Canada with low population density are a great option if you are prepared for a cold ass winter.

Oh well... You can all come and stay here in NZ with me

I live on the SouthIsland, and living is good.. we don't put any crap in our water. We have more sheep than people so we won't run out of meat anytime soon for the BBQ. We are considered the Diary capital of the world, only problem would probably be rice and wheat, but hey at least I can have a good steak or mince pattie. Lots of veges and fruit as well...
Skiing in the winter and Beach in the summer... what more could you want?

the AWB never was about fully automatic weapons, just accessories (floding stock, flash hiders, etc) - and general gungrab PR.

maybe you mean the NFA act of 1934?

back on topic:

the issue isn't really where to go but when. if you leave early, you'll at least feel you've achieved nothing, even IF it turns out to save your life later on. imagine all people who left nazi germany in 1933-36, they left right on time, survived and generally acted with great foresight. of course, their home country was destroyed and, had the axis won, their decision would have become irrelevant. in the case of the west's decent into feudalism, who's opposing it? who has the power to do so?

i think if everybody cut and ran, the new axis would win outright. survival is overrated, once you're willing to sacrifice everything just to keep breathing, it's the mentality, which made people sheepishly go to the incinerators.

[edit on 26.4.2008 by Long Lance]

Personally I will stay in the U.S., I know my way around here. I am not sure what type of situation would warrant leaving the United States and taking up residence in another country, but it would have to be near anihalation for me. And then I would probably be dead and wouldn't care. Seriously though, I know the backwoods here, I could survive on the land given the waters are OK, I have no doubt about that. But I don't think we are going to be in any type of situation that would warrant people needing to rush out of the US.

agree, allso it is the safest country to be in, if nuclearsh*t hits the fan. Country policy is that every citizen must have bed in falloutshelter. allso its geography makes it one of the hardest countries in the world to invade. It is allso most democratic one, because it has nearly complete direct democrazy. Interesting, because Representative democracy is justified with the impossibility of direct democrazy.

only problem with switzerland is that it is a mountain country so if climate becames colder it would be inhabitable. allso food production even now days might not be enough if swiss people would need to call in total isolation.

[edit on 28/4/08 by hopea]

What about S.Amer countries
like uraguay or costa rica?
Fr the democracy index by Economist
the whole region is quite good.
.
You travel a few months b4 election day, vote from overseas
(or trip in neighbouring overseas country, coming into overseas country to vote)
come back few months later
.
has anyone travelled to Cuba?
juz for the sights?
perhaps there are some shop selling Gbay postcard and souvenirs?



[edit on 28-4-2008 by SnowWhite]

reply to post by Pellevoisin

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I would have to Disagree to a certain extent here, New Zealand Loves US Citizens provided you have a skill that would the benefit the country which is a very small sacrifice to pay to get out of the US, Dont get Me wrong I too Love the US, but Our beloved country is going down hill fast and it will go down Faster once Obama gets In office so I am moving to Italy I already have agreat Place to Move to and Start my Hotel Business in a Castle Best of Luck to you .