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Minot AFB Clandestine Nukes 'Oddities'

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posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 05:20 PM
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Minot AFB Clandestine Nukes 'Oddities'


www.legitgov.org

Since the Minot story broke a week ago about the missing nukeclandestine operation from Minot, we have the following (for those who are paying attention):

1. All six people listed below are from Minot Airforce base
2. All were directly involved as loaders or as pilots
3. All are now dead
4. All within the last 7 days in 'accidents' [Not all of them --LRP]

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 05:20 PM
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Hmmmm, what are the odds that 6 of the military personnel that handled the missing nukes would die within a week.

It sure seems like somebody isn't happy about what happened. We'll probably NEVER find out the truth about how those bombs got "missing" or how or why these men had "accidents".

*The link below has links to news reports of the 6 dead soldiers deaths.*

www.legitgov.org
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 19/9/07 by Keyhole]


apc

posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 05:40 PM
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I'm starting to be convinced that the conspiratorial angle to this issue is legitimate.

However, what is the real intent? To bomb American cities in a "false-flag" terrorist attack? Is it not true that a ground-burst leaves behind enough material to be analyzed and its chemical makeup, and therefore origin, identified? Or has that been considered and a scapegoat, someone who can be painted to be sympathetic to radical Islam, has already been arranged?

I'm just glad if it is an operation of some kind they wont hit here in KC. Don't wanna take out a major NAFTA Super Highway hub.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 05:56 PM
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Might I suggest you find a better source for your material. They all did not die within one week check the soucres. Most of what they allege is absolutely wrong. All were not loaders nor where they pilots those are allegeations with one exception one was a pilot who died in a motorcycle accident.

Example two airmen were travaling with their wives one on leave from vacation coming back to Minot from Calif. Another couple on a different hwy returning from a day at a local casino outing. Not out of the normal at all

Then you have the airman who died in the accicident on south hill which was a result of trying to fine tune high performance parts on the car which was doing 70 in a 25MPH zone. Again nothing out of the noraml I will now cut to the chase and end by saying there is absolutely nothing suspisous about any of the deaths at this time. No one has yet to confirm Todd blues suicde either. It is a none issue




[edit on 9/19/2007 by shots]



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Keyhole

Hmmmm, what are the odds that 6 of the military personnel that handled the missing nukes would die within a week.



Read further below at the bottom of one person who posted his own opinion.


I’ve seen too much crazy stuff to believe in some massive conspiracy, there’s too many people involved. You’d have to kill like 50 people to “cover up” moving nukes to Barksdale. Plus, what would it achieve? There’s already more than enough nukes at Barksdale to blow the world up 3x over. Who needs 6 more? Seriously? Plus, more accidents occur with conventional than nukes, since nukes are computerized and designed to be super-duper safe. Conventional weapons are built by the lowest bidder. [Yikes!] I’d be more worried about a fully-loaded F16 flying around NYC after 9/11 sucking up a bird than a B52 with nukes flying around without anyone knowing it was loaded with nukes. The pilots couldn’t "secretly" be in on it and launch them, the interface wouldn’t be installed, the COMSEC material wouldn’t be available, etc. You’d have to kill half the base to hide the paper trail necessary to give the pilots the ability to launch.

Several people dying from Minot is bad, of course, but then, crazy stuff happens. Motorcycle accidents, mind you, are the #1 non-war cause of dead in the Air Force. The Captain who died wasn’t a pilot (he was Combat Weather, as evidenced by his pewter beret in the photo linked from your site). Captains are a dime a dozen, just like the Security Forces troop who died. Yes, a part of the Security Forces Squadron mission there would be do defend the nukes, but he’s not at all involved in any of the process. He stands outside the door and checks IDs. Seriously, that’s it. I have 5 cops (as they're generally called in the Air Force) I deal with every day where I work because I do computer stuff, and they have zero clue what’s happening behind the door. They spend most of the day on the phone chit chatting with friends at other security posts about the latest dorm gossip about who slept with whom.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:09 PM
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well i have a interesting angle if youll listen the breaking news about iran saying there will be a finale resolve or sumthing like that against the zionists ok iran as normal but what struck me as interesting is this whois.domaintools.com... the server for this site is in california shouldnt an iranian news agency have the server there in iran espescially since the website carries the .ir at the end so lets say that this nuke wich dissappeared at a base that supplies the middle east theater is heading for iraq a false news story is made about a final resolve then we use it on isreal with isreals knowledge it is either allowed to hit ((for emotional sting)) or is intercepted and used as a excuse for isreal and america to attack iran....just some thoughts



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:11 PM
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i have a friend whos parents work at barksdale barksdale only has 8 nukes and there about to be decommissioned



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:17 PM
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OMG! I can't believe it this is crazy! I tried to look at the article going in completely unbiased, but WOW I am very and deeply upset over this chain of unfortunate events. How can they not be covering this on every station? No not a word. Are they planing a nuke event? Are we slated for martial law, wait what am I thinking, how many will die from a nuke the size of the missing one? Is it solid proof and undeniable one is really missing? I would appreciate an answer from anyone, I hate this kind of BS and want to know.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by apc
Is it not true that a ground-burst leaves behind enough material to be analyzed and its chemical makeup, and therefore origin, identified?


That is what I have read around here also. I don't know if that is true but until some one showes other wise I will take it to be true. However if that test is done we will all be depending on the government for the results, and there for they can say what ever they want and there will be little any one could do to prove them wrong. So if the intent is a false flag nuke in any city the analyzing tests may be able to be bent to any result.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:23 PM
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I hope that you really dont believe that. Barksdale has hundreds of nukes, and that is a liberal number...probably much more than that.

The post a few posts up with the external source talking about how it is a non-issue is completely right, and I couldnt have put it better myself.

Think about this...the only reason that we know about this is because the Air Force told us. Why would the tell us about it, and then kill 6 people supposedly involved with it. They wouldnt. There were dozens of people involved...maybe more. Stuff like what happened happens every day in the military. Just cause you dont hear about it doesnt mean that it doesnt happen.



[edit on 19-9-2007 by PokeyJoe]



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by PokeyJoe
Stuff like what happened happens every day in the military. Just cause you dont hear about it doesnt mean that it doesnt happen.


regarding the nukes? I was under the impression this was a huge story because it's the first time in like 8 years or whatever that protocol was broken, and that there are serious investigations underway because of it (not the deaths, the mishandling of the nukes). And isn't one missing (or at least, that's the big story)?



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:35 PM
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idonno all i know is when i was talking to my friends mom who used to work at cannon AFB here in clovis then was transferred to barksdalewe were talking about the nukes she said the reason it was such a big issue is because they had 8 there that were awaiting transferr to decommissioning



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by antar
. How can they not be covering this on every station?


The answer to that is very simple. First go to the source used then go and read what they say. Now compare the two you will find all 6 did not die in one week, nor were they bomber pilots and loaders as claimed.

Garbage in = garbage out yet for some reson it gets to some and creetes concern where there should be none

Now if you were a radio/tv stion who realized the inforamtion posted was false would you put it out?.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:38 PM
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Maybe not to the magnitude of 6 cruise missiles at once, but things happen all the time. Whenever the human element is involved, mistakes are going to be made.

As ive said before, I work in the nuke field in the AF, and with people who have worked at Minot and Barksdale, doing the same jobs in question in this incident. Ive heard some crazy stories that arent to be repeated on here. The good thing about nukes is that they dont go off unless you really try hard to make them go off.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:38 PM
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JUNK.

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Reports the death of two, completely anonymous people who worked at Barksdale AFB - not Minot. Repeat: this article gave NO NAMES, and even cites the people who were killed as making the mistake.

www.kxmc.com...
www.kfyrtv.com...

The two above report the same person dying.

www.kxmc.com...

The above is from July 5, 07.

www.bismarcktribune.com...

Above, July 20, 07

1. All six people listed below are from Minot Airforce base - WRONG
2. All were directly involved as loaders or as pilots - NO INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THIS
3. All are now dead - So this one is true
4. All within the last 7 days in 'accidents' [Not all of them --LRP] - WRONG

1/4 is no good.


[edit on 19-9-2007 by Angry Danish]


apc

posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by RedGolem
So if the intent is a false flag nuke in any city the analyzing tests may be able to be bent to any result.


I thought about that but I think that requires too many people to be brought in. If the securing of the weapons was some sort of black/covert/whatever operation, it would have involved a minimal number of personnel. Bringing more people into it to manage evidence after the event doesn't bode well for keeping a lid on things... that is of course unless you kill them afterwards *cough*.

It is also interesting to point out that if this is some sort of operation, and if one believes (which I do not) that 9/11 was some sort of operation by the same agency, we can expect minimal casualties. Possibly a small town or something other than a population center... Hoover Dam, etc.

Just gleeful speculation mind you. Seems there's evidence calling the source into question.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:49 PM
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It is not cool to see this many people from the same base die in freak accidents and unexplained reasons or go missing for 2 weeks and then end up dead. Would you like to see the ones you love on that list? Perhaps some of their relatives will end up on ATS in hopes of finding reason and see how people here sometimes give the impression they just don't give a hoot. IT IS A VERY BIG DEAL. I am so very sorry for all of those warriors that have gone down suspiciously.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by shots

Might I suggest you find a better source for your material. They all did not die within one week check the soucres. Most of what they allege is absolutely wrong. All were not loaders nor where they pilots those are allegeations with one exception one was a pilot who died in a motorcycle accident.

Example two airmen were travaling with their wives one on leave from vacation coming back to Minot from Calif. Another couple on a different hwy returning from a day at a local casino outing. Not out of the normal at all

Then you have the airman who died in the accicident on south hill which was a result of trying to fine tune high performance parts on the car which was doing 70 in a 25MPH zone. Again nothing out of the noraml I will now cut to the chase and end by saying there is absolutely nothing suspisous about any of the deaths at this time. No one has yet to confirm Todd blues suicde either. It is a none issue

[edit on 9/19/2007 by shots]


Why do people completely bypass what you have written here and believe 100% that the OP is totally correct? As you have pointed out it is so easy to fib just a little around known facts to make it into anything you want.
What we have are unrelated instances and by just saying they were nuke loaders and or pilots for the resent incident turns this all into a crazy conspiracy. Boy, make something a conspiracy and people will believe instantly without any real proof. I just don’t get it…


[edit on 19-9-2007 by Xtrozero]



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 06:57 PM
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This is garbage. I clicked on all those links and most of them are talking about the same 20 year old airman, and then another 2 people. That is 3 people, not six. Why do some of you people believe this garbage without researching it first?



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 07:15 PM
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Weston Kissel #1
John Fruesh #2
Todd Blue #3
Adam Barrs #4
UNdisclosed couple from the base # 5-6
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