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Amazing new UFO footage from Lake Erie [video]

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posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 03:56 PM
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Michael Lee Hill has some new and pretty amazing UFO footage, shot over Lake Erie and much like his previous footage which has been seen on Fox News, CBS and many major paranormal websites, Michael's previous footage has also appeared in UFO's Unplugged with Dan Aykroyd and David Sereda's film "From Here to Andromeda".

His latest footage seems a lot like his previous footage and a few of the arguments trying to debunk that film was that they were of cop cars on hills, maybe his latest will throw that theory out the window.


Video One

Video Two



mod edit: caps

[edit on 9/19/2007 by kinglizard]




posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 04:02 PM
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Thanks for the video info. Ohio has alot of crazy things going on in the sky. The main places are near Cleveland, and in southern Ohio no doubt connected to the Dayton ET city. That place is crawling.
I have heard Lake Erie has a soft floor, and is mostly salt or something for miles below the lake. That would be easy to excavate, and possibly the ET ships are from under the Lake. That would help explain all the sightings up there. i have heard one of the lecturers or authors talking about ET in Lake Erie.
DWT

[edit on 19-9-2007 by dntwastetime]



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 04:17 PM
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Fake definetly CGI the moon look fake also



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 04:28 PM
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Theres some genuine UFO-Material thats been posted today, but I dont think this is one of them. Why? Because his voice and text are not authentic, he`s a bad actor.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 04:32 PM
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Well at least the camera is no shaking..and staticx..you can see the moon mooving across the sky..to mee that's a real moon moving in the background..you can see the heat waves from the optics..around the moon and in the atmosphere..thats something that its hard to mimick on CGI or make it to look natural....the lights..well could be anything..UFO...or who knows..

Looks authentic to me at least the video



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Terrapop

His latest footage seems a lot like his previous footage and a few of the arguments trying to debunk that film was that they were of cop cars on hills, maybe his latest will throw that theory out the window.

Well, I do not remember anyone on ATS saying that they were police cars up a hill, what most people who did not believe that they were UFOs said that they were airplanes preparing to land.

You can read all about it here and here.

I think that Michael should stick to guitar playing...



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 07:04 PM
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Great video nice find. Looks like a genuine sighting. Honestly all the past CGI videos seem to good to be true, and they are. This seems more authentic and not to flashy and bright like most CGI vids today. Have to say looks authentic to me. But on what the lights were who knows.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 07:34 PM
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Things have been picking up now and I've seen a lot of those moving lights over the lake like what's showing in the video. We don't know what they are but they are very common.

One thing is certain, they are not planes and they are not stars.

And the week before last I saw a round glowing green light moving around that was just under and showing through a thin veil of clouds. It almost looked like a holographic rendering of some sort except that it was just under that thin layer of overcast. It was there for only 3 minutes or so before it disappeared.

I live on the top floor of a hi-rise right on lake Erie... it's been a rather uneventful summer .. not anything like last summer but lately things have been picking up.



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 10:22 PM
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A little background of Cleveland -

Cleveland-Hopkins Airport has a north-northeast to south approach. So EVERY plane that comes in HAS to go out over lake erie to come in to land. I've talked to a few pilots and both of them told me it's one of the worst approaches in the U.S. As a passenger, it's nasty, because you'll come in, go a mile or two out on the lake and hard bank south to make the approach.

Cleveland has multiple DCMC and DOD offices, most near the lake on the near east side of town. There is and old nike missle silo in Bratenhal. But most cities have a strategic air defense system.

Perry Nuclear power plant is roughly an hour and a half east on the lakeshore.

There also is a small airport on the lakeshore called Burke Lakefront. They race IRL there (or at least used to, I don't know if IRL renewed or not, an airport make a crappy racetrack.)

Botom line is Cleveland Metro area is pretty tense area on Defense, especially after Flight 91 rolled over the city.

On the near west side of town there is a salt mine that goes out approximately five miles out under the lake. HUGE salt deposit under lake erie. I often wondered when the lake would collapse(lol!) Seems unlikely place for a base unless it was on the far east side of the lake. But none of these lights go up and down.

These "lights" would have been seen better from Put-in-Bay, an touristy island with a few residents, or anywhere from Windsor to Chatham/Kent,Ontario, Canada. Some people there could have been interviewed. But of course the plan is to make a few videos, try to capitalize on them and make money. The hell with due diligence and getting to the truth no matter what that truth is.

These IMHO are approaching commercial airlines. I've lived on both sides of the city on the lake and you look out and see a string of the coming in like that. First they will move, the pause, then turn....



posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Theres some genuine UFO-Material thats been posted today, but I dont think this is one of them. Why? Because his voice and text are not authentic, he`s a bad actor.

That's totally unfair. If you're complaining about his voice, there are a couple of things you ought to know:
1- he recently underwent jaw reconstruction surgery, someone beat him up presumably because of the information he has.
2 - he likes to get high while filming over Lake Erie. He was stoned. We all sound a little bit different to the way we normally speak while in that state, don't we?

How do I know this? He's had a thread running over at GLP that was pinned yesterday. I feel that while he was a member of ATS, he was poorly mistreated and did not deserve his banning. It was a case of the skeptics and debunkers going overboard to 'expose' him. These latest videos caanot be explained as airplanes coming in for landing. If he was wrong about that and filming the wrong thing, then that is an honest mistake in my opinion. It doesn't discount the fact there are strange things going on over the lake. I doubt that any conventional airplane would remain in a triangular formation around the moon like that - that was simply too weird for words. Flagging this thread.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:21 AM
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"These latest videos caanot be explained as airplanes coming in for landing."

Why not? Have you been there to see it? No, you've seen a minute long video clip. On a clear night, at the right angles, you'd see this all night long. Everybody does. Yet this is the first turkey to come out and say this, which gives real research a bad name. The triangle formation as he calls it is most likely an "altered" state of mind delusion. You will see what you want to see. I see three planes lined up at an angle to prepare for approach, with the bottom one turning around. Funny he didn't post the part where the bottom light "comes back" because I guarantee it did.

The second clip if it was "longer" or completed would show a lot more. But why post a few second crap like that? Hell, people pirate and post dvd's, 2 hours worth on rapidshare and the like. He obviously has the ability to post the whole thing.

BTW, does anyone know from what municipality/beach he films from? I can do a diagram to show everyone what I mean.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:41 AM
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The guy got caught red handed filming aircraft on approach, when approached about it he refused to recant. Instead he went out and shot different footage of aircraft at much closer range to prove his original was something else. It was something else alright, aircraft filmed from a much further distance, but still aircraft.

This was shown to him in aircraft traffic maps, and flight tracking software, yet he still claims they are UFO’s. Why should anyone believe anything this guy puts out?

The videos here look like more of the same to me, the second video is defiantly stacked aircraft shot a long distance as they come in over the lake. The reason he likes filming over the lake is because it gives him this long range unobstructed view, which is far enough that you cannot make out the navigation lights or any sound. The first video, is kind of a throw up to me, either stacked aircraft again, or maybe stars. I kind of fast forwarded through that one as it was boring me.

Either way though the trick is the same, shoot your film over a large, dark, unobstructed area, where they will show up 20 or more miles away. Then shoot footage of other aircraft which are only a couple miles away to prove the first ones were something paranormal.


[edit on 9/20/2007 by defcon5]



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:51 AM
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I think these videos are real but I think the UFOs are probably man made (maybe even something as uninteresting as some kind of balloon). I have seen similar on more then one occassion. The only UFO I have seen that really made me wonder was moving across the sky much faster then any plane and with no sound. So i think the video is real but it doesn't show anything that could not be achieved by something man made.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by RiotComing
If he was wrong about that and filming the wrong thing, then that is an honest mistake in my opinion. It doesn't discount the fact there are strange things going on over the lake.


How is it an honest mistake when the guy is shown on both air maps and flight tracker that he was filming into an approach pattern and his response was to change where he was supposedly filming from. His second response, after he could no longer deny that he was filming into an approach pattern, was to go out and film aircraft under different conditions to show they look and sound different. Yeah of course they look and sound different at 2 to 5 miles out then they do at 20 to 30.

How is this an honest mistake?

To make matters worse…
He had to know they were aircraft from the beginning because he saw what they did after he shut the camera off.
He saw them landing...

This was in intentional fraud, it was proved as such, and he has no remorse in continuing to do this. Most folks are lucky If they ever see anything once in their lives that they cannot explain, yet he seems to be able to find them on a nightly basis when it involves his making a video for cash.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 04:07 AM
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I have been through that area. I saw a huge rectangle floating crooked in the sky near Cleveland/Lake Erie, south of route 83. I think all bets on a rational explanation are off as to what a floating rectangle in the sky could be. It's either a UFO, or something back engineered from a UFO that I saw.
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 04:09 AM
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I dunno about that footage though. Looks like it could be anything, probably rational explanations are to be found there. Strange things aren't afoot in that video.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by dntwastetime
Thanks for the video info. Ohio has alot of crazy things going on in the sky. The main places are near Cleveland, and in southern Ohio no doubt connected to the Dayton ET city. That place is crawling.
I have heard Lake Erie has a soft floor, and is mostly salt or something for miles below the lake. That would be easy to excavate, and possibly the ET ships are from under the Lake. That would help explain all the sightings up there. i have heard one of the lecturers or authors talking about ET in Lake Erie.
DWT

[edit on 19-9-2007 by dntwastetime]


Hey man, I just moved to Ohio and live near the Dayton area. Can you explain what you have heard or seen regarding Dayton as an ET hotspot? I would like to witness what you are saying.

This guys' footage is incredible, and there is no doubt in my mind that it is 100% genuine.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Theres some genuine UFO-Material thats been posted today, but I dont think this is one of them. Why? Because his voice and text are not authentic, he`s a bad actor.


You can think whatever you want, but I have read much on this guy and seen all of his videos. There is no reason to suggest he and his footage are fakes. He posts quite a bit on GLP, and I will personally be meeting up with this guy on Eerie soon.

I'm sure you and the people like you will still say the same thing though, ah well, your loss.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by Mindzi
... There is no reason to suggest he and his footage are fakes. He posts quite a bit on GLP, and I will personally be meeting up with this guy on Eerie soon.


Read the previous posts in this thread. He chooses to film near airports. Check the thread from earlier in this year also.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by Mindzi There is no reason to suggest he and his footage are fakes.


In the purest sense of the word, I dont think that anyone is calling these vids "fakes". Well, maybe they are. Terminology is misused around here so much its hard to interprete what people mean sometimes. He and his footage are willfull misrepresentations being used to hype the mundane to generate DVD sales. They are misrepresentations or misperceptions of very terrestrial and mundane events as "unidentified" or extraterrestrial when it has been shown with a great deal of evidence shown in threads here that they are not.

He and those who are walking in lockstep with his line of thinking are willfully not looking at the evidence that proves this in order to maintain a level of hype and sensationalism to keep the DVD sales up.


I'm sure you and the people like you will still say the same thing though, ah well, your loss.


Yes, I (can only speak for myself) will maintain what I think to be true and when needed defend it because the overwhelming evidence (that some flat out refuse to see) supports these being no more than aircraft and in the first video possibly the planet Jupiter tossed in for flavoring. From our perspective the loss (the truth) is yours... that being said, I hope we can agree to disagree


[edit on 20-9-2007 by Lost_Mind]



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