reply to post by Vitchilo
The bulk of what people are having shipped is not worth it. You need to buy the bulk stuff like sugar, flour, pasta,beans and rice locally to get your
moneys worth. The wheat isn't worth the shipping price either.
If you buy freeze dried entrees with pasta in them then you are shooting yourself in the foot cost wise. They are fantastic for convenience but kill
your bottom line.
Use five gallon buckets with interior mylar bags,oxygen absorbers, and nitrogen to create your own long storing staples. You will need to order
the bags and oxygen absorbers online. Home depot has the best price on 5 gallon buckets I've found and their lids seal very well. If you pack with
nitrogen, it can be gotten cheap locally and the bottles returned when you are done. (just use good ventilation when nitrogen packing as it displaces
oxygen in enclosed spaces)
Many of the items are already in a storable state like honey, syrup, canned goods and prepackaged meals where you add water. You can get canned
hams, sardines, salmon, chicken, mackerel, and so forth for much less than the price of the processed and delivered meat products.
Bulk pasta and canned sauce is available for a fraction of the cost of pre packaged entrees.
Don't forget coffee, tea, drink mixes, dry milk and soup bases they are all available in long storing instant form at the store.
The things that are cost effective for ordering after figuring total price are the freeze dried vegetables and bulk orders of stews and
meat/vegetable mixed entrees. The rest is better gotten locally and properly packaged . Powdered eggs, powdered cheese and margarine powder are not
available locally to most people so are necessary online orders if you want them.
Other things to look at are sprouting seeds. These are great cost and room wise. They are a great bang for your buck and you can have fresh greens
in as little as 48 hours.
The longest term solution is gardening seeds. They are actually cheaper if you buy them pre selected for your area and long storage packed than if you
bought the equivalent seeds in envelopes at the local garden center or hardware store. You would probably be able to get a better price at a feed
store or farming supply but it would be in a bulk form that might not be worth it in the long run.
One of the most convenient items is the MRE. It is also one of the least cost effective. The next in convenience is the freeze dried entrees like
mountain house. The pricing per ounce is pretty misleading. After doing a lot of research and math the 'serves two' package bought by the case seems
to give the best value. The common ones like beef stew ,lasagna and spaghetti are the best values. The individual vegetable packs and desserts are way
over priced. The MREs and freeze dried entrees are both good products but they are expensive. It is still a good idea to have at least a few days
worth in case you have to get along with no way to cook or have to travel with your food.
Obviously these results vary but what I've written here is based on cost of product, cost of shipping and return on volume/calories versus cost. It
is as accurate as I can be according to my experience but others may have had different experiences.
A word on cooking oil. It is a MAJOR source of calories and is absolutely essential in a survival situation when dealing with stored foods. It cannot
be stored long term. At best most oils last less than a year. Olive oil and peanut oil go bad fairly quickly when thinking in terms of storage. Keep
your ear to the ground. If things go south then you will need to buy a few gallons at the last minute. It would be good to find a local place that
offers large packaging on cooking oils so thay you can find it quickly before the crowds clean out the store.
The alternate to oil is shortening. It will last up to 5 years but is hydrogenated so is an unhealthy saturated fat source. A few pounds of
shortening over the course of time won't really cause much harm but it should be a final option and not the primary choice.
Other notables that are often forgotten are alcohol, tobacco, candy and daily toiletries.
A lot of your savings will come from doing your own buying locally and storing it properly.
It takes a bit of research but will be worth it if you are intent on storing food on a budget.
Hopefully we won't need any of this any time soon.
[edit on 5-8-2009 by badgerprints]