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JFK/Oswald/Ruby... Beyond Coincidence?

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posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 03:05 PM
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After 44 years one could look at the JFK assas. and come away as unsure as ever about what really happened that weekend in 1963.

But, after that many years and occasionally yet regularly sifting through everything we know about the event through the filter of common sense, logic and simple odds ...I believe that a rational person can only be left with the realization that the circumstances surrounding the placement and actions of the characters involved are beyond coincidence.

The list of these non-coincidental circumstances is so long it could be in the hundreds!

But even if 10 or more of the key ones are this way, the weight of logic and odds from these is enough that it is more illogical and irrational to say all of this was just coincidence than the other way around.

And over time, this weight will eventually erode and collapse the illogical and false reality artifice holding up the "official" version and explanation of this event.

For a good while it has been impossible to break through the barricade of purposely confused and tainted solid evidence to prove anything beyond the official version of what truly happened in Dallas that November, but these three natural tried and tested filters of truth...common sense, logic and odds always win out in the end.

In no specific order here are some of the events that are beyond coincidence using the three true measurements of truth finding.

Ruby arriving at just the perfect time and being able to saunter into the heavily guarded Dallas jail and then being able to walk unnoticed or unconfronted and get closer than anyone to Oswald as he walks by, outside of Oswalds immediate escorts. And the fact that Oswald was escorted so openly that even a child would say" hey, he sure looks open there."

Ruby's explanation for doing what he did. Sorry, after 44 years of analysing his stated reason I think even the worlds top phsychologists would dismiss this as implausible.


Oswald getting that dead end job at the Texas School Book Depository at just the perfect time and place ( relative to the date of JFK's parade and it's switched at the last minute route change directly below Oswalds perch ) with this work place providing all the perfect phsyical building and job duty attributes that created a perfect perch where no one else was around to get the perfect angle shots...again, sorry, a logical mind say this is all more than coincidence.

Oswalds connections to nefarious and secret groups and individuals. So many it's hard to keep track. These mean nothing in the larger scheme of what happened? The odds against at least someone being more involved with Oswald here are naturally too high to dismiss this proposition.

And never had so many people close to an American event like this ended up dying under suspicious and illogical ways relative to their physical state and age at the time of their dying.

Sorry, but once you hit the hundred mark in looking at all these circumstances and weighing them against logic, odds and common sense you eventually have to catch your breath as you realize there is no way all of these are just coincidences.

Why do we choose to look away from all of this - to look away from logic, odds and common sense? I think it is fear of the truth and the responsibility that the realization of that truth would create.

This would just be too much responsibility for the average person to bear.

It is just so much easier and less demanding to live life somewhat blindly...hoping that things just work out on their own if you leave them alone.

Unfortunately, this is probably one of the main reasons much of our society is so ill.




posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 06:53 PM
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People were pretty ill about Nixon.

I don't even recall if he ended Nam in the first or last 4 years.

Getting elected the second time was almost as dumbfounding as the
Bush which won a prime role in Fahrenheit 911.


Google Video Link


So the JFK assassination research put Nixon in Dallas that day.

Oswald was working for Hoover to find anti Cuba CIA camps.

Ruby was a name of Nixon election campaigner.

See JFK II:

Google Video Link



Dem. Presidential Candidate wants a 4th house of congress to set
thinks straight... perhaps that will work... Clinton always took pols
to see what he would do next.






posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 07:02 PM
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Oswald getting that dead end job at the Texas School Book Depository at just the perfect time and place ( relative to the date of JFK's parade and it's switched at the last minute route change directly below Oswalds perch ) with this work place providing all the perfect phsyical building and job duty attributes that created a perfect perch where no one else was around to get the perfect angle shots...again, sorry, a logical mind say this is all more than coincidence.




I think Clay Shaw got Oswald the job, Claw Shaw is now the CIA hand
in the Operation Paper Clip that brought Von Braun and 15,000 Nazis
to America.

So you think Hitler was alive in the 60s and knew about the JFK setup?



posted on Feb, 18 2008 @ 06:55 PM
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It is an amazing evolvement in time with the JFK murder. The obfuscation by many is too often misguided in the description of a coincidence with the placement of Oswald in the Book Depository and Ruby killing Oswald in front of the Dallas police.

In my opinion the departmental applications mostly used in the Pentagon were cleverly designed in the tactic used in Dallas on November 22, 1963. Oswald was trained and handled by covert forces in the intelligence family of the United States and it was coordinated with precision in a 'tango' dance with Ruby.

George DeMohrenschildt was one of the key persons associated with Oswald in his early arrival to Dallas before the JFK killing . He asked his daughter to house Oswald and allowed Oswald to use him as a reference on job applications.

DeMohrenschildt had a career that was similar to the one master spy known as E. Howard Hunt. They both were involved with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during WWII and most interestingly is the fact that a Nelson Rockefeller letter regarding how to get references was found on his person when he was stopped for alleged spying in 1941. DeMorenschildt was on his way to Mexico where he would be deported for engaging in espionage with General Douglas MacArthur's nephew.

Both DeMorenschildt and Hunt were involved with people directly connected to Pantipec Oil, whose owners were the parents of William F. Buckley, Jr., the American author and conservative commentator. Buckley founded the political magazine National Review and he also had hosted the television show Firing Line.

It was DeMorenschildt who had taken Oswald to a party where he would meet Michael and Ruth Paine. As it turned out, Marina Oswald and her daughter from Lee Oswald would end up living in the Paine home in Irving, Texas. The Paines were closely connected with the intelligence community. Michael had a security clearance in his job with Bell Helicopter. Ruth's father worked for the Agency for International Development (AID) as both Hunt and DeMorenschildt had past employment there as well. Also, Ruth's brother-in-law worked there as well and she had last visited him in Washington D.C. in September of 1963.

The connections with the Mafia are the strands between Oswald's uncle, Charles “Dutz” Murret, who helped raised Oswald in New Orleans, and the New Orleans 'crime lord' Carlos Marcello. Dutz was a bookie in the Marcello illegal gambling empire in New Orleans.

Judyth Vary Baker, Oswald's ex-girl friend in New Orleans, has testified that while she was in Lee’s company, she met Jack Ruby twice, in May and June of 1963, once at CIA pilot David Ferrie’s apartment and once at The 500 Club, a Marcello hang-out. Ruby worked with Guy Banister, an FBI agent stationed out of New Orleans, and Marcello in running guns to Cuban exiles. Judyth knew Ruby as “Sparky” Rubenstein. When Lee was killed, she did not know that Jack Ruby and Sparky Rubenstein were the same man! The shock of seeing Lee killed on TV caused her to avoid all further coverage of the assassination.

The above mentioned are just a few threads in the making of this web of mystery in an enigma of concealed truths. It's anyone's guess when the time capsule ends. Like infinity it mirrors a lot of our ignorance with very little tolerance for truths.

Much of the above was gathered from the book, Coup D' Etat in America, by Alan J. Weberman and Michael Canfield. On Judyth Vary Baker from the web site: mcadams.posc.mu.edu...

I challenge everyone to seek truths for you will find them.



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