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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:01 AM by Havalon
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
reply to post by Havalon
Fist of all, Havalon, I was responding to a post that has less meaning, reason, and conclusions than my post, and example of which I'm sure you wish
to overlook to make your point. Please go back and re-read the exchange to get a proper point of view before posting again.
I stand corrected and apologise, I will read your quote references more carefully in future.
As far as explaining what you are seeing in these pictures, I did not know it was my job to educate you on how this finishing process works
when it comes to mosaic pictures.
You are right there! it is not your job.
Some have done so in this thread, and I did not feel the need to repeat what they have said, for fear blind believers such as yourself would
attack me for repeating what has already been posted.
You can rest assured on two counts, one, I will not attack you and two, I am not a BLIND believer.
Please, review this thread and issue the same criticism to everyone who has contributed in this thread, for and against, in the same manner I
have, otherwise you transparent desire to believe the absurd without thinking it through or investigating it for himself is apparent to anybody around
here with half a brain.
I can once again assure you, I do not have a desire to believe, in the absurd or otherwise, certainly not without thinking it through nor
investigating the facts that are available at the time.
I thank you for your constructive critisism, in this case, however back to topic.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:05 AM by wingzero93
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Originally posted by wingzero93
reply to post by mikesingh
I hate to say it, but this is the real deal. There is no plausible explanation for this, This is in fact, an object of non-natural formation. Period.
Nuff said.
Wow, your total lack of understanding how digital imaging works has lead to to a conculsion that is just ridiculous. Deny ignorance, my friend, which
means "deny the lack of what you don't understand" LOL
Preach me the ways of how digital imaging "works" then, my friend.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:20 AM by yahn goodey
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reply to post by PokeyJoe
re:pokeyjoe. does anyone think the government is that dumb?------the people are dumb------a couple of times you use this
expression.not trying to be rude to nice people but having worked for the canadian government for +34 years i hate to tell you this--i worked for
several incompetent bosses that had this opinion about their superiors and about me and those under them and about the public in general----doesnt
matter where you go in this worlds societies -from top to bottom you find unethical people in positions they shouldnt be in.the last boss i had was
caught stealing by the military police 20 years ago on the military installation i worked at---he spent 3 months in jail because the judge was sick of
seeing him as a repeat offender.5 years later he applies for a job with the government and gets it-----9 years ago they make him my boss-----and i
assure you he stole/steals more now than he ever stole before his jail sentence and he brags about it----they'll never catch me----the mps are too
stupid--i wish they would hurry up and catch this crook again-and this time make him pay back everything he owes with interest----should only take him
a couple of lifetimes to repay his debts.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:24 AM by traderonwallst
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To me it looks like the tail section of the space shuttle. Sounds weird, but thats what I see.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:33 AM by yahn goodey
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reply to post by eyewitness86
re:eyewitness86------- according to ancient history the earth has had a variety of different length years and months. a 290 day year at one time-a
360 day year later on and now a 365.1/4 day year.the month used to be a 30 day month and now it averages 29.1/2 days give or take an hour from 1 month
to the next.something had to be done in order to make these "steering" corrections.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:33 AM by Yacov
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Just to lend a new element here
the moon shot in question could be a glitch
or it could be an assembly left over from the antedeluvian age
ie before the flood
they were pretty high tech and lived to great age
or it could be some of the devils works literally- he is a very powerfull fallen being
....but a more positive and correct view is that the moon is a sign of God's covenant with Abraham to rule the planet righteously through Christ on
the Throne of David :
Psa 72:7 In his days shall the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace till the moon be no more.
Psa 72:8 And he shall have dominion from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.
a great hope for all on this old ball of dirt
y
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:43 AM by yahn goodey
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reply to post by Sekhemet
the "tower" and the blurrs around it.something being cloaked in that area?---it is strange indeed.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:46 AM by bergle
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reply to post by Yacov
The Davil made them do it......uh...yeah rright....
Hey has anyone proposed the idea that theres perhaps someone in the airbrush department who has tried to sneak out a few badly botched cover ups of
anomalies on purpose?
Perhaps theres a PATRIOT IN THE MIX WHOS BEEN TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT INSTEAD OF A CLUMSY SLOPPY AIRBRUSH WORKER IN THE STUDIO.?
It would be a helluva story no?
bergle
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 09:56 AM by zenfish
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On first glance that looks like a brushed picture of the Mars face.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 10:10 AM by onthefence81
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Im not a ig follower of the structures on the moon theory but this looks kinda odd so im undecided. Just a few questions.
How could a glitch like this be caused by the camera?
People are saying something pulled off the originals caused this, how? I scanned lots of photos that have had stickies attached nothing lke this has
appeared.
thats all
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 10:12 AM by Thill
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Originally posted by bergle
Hey has anyone proposed the idea that theres perhaps someone in the airbrush department who has tried to sneak out a few badly botched cover ups of
anomalies on purpose?
Perhaps theres a PATRIOT IN THE MIX WHOS BEEN TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT INSTEAD OF A CLUMSY SLOPPY AIRBRUSH WORKER IN THE STUDIO.?
It would be a helluva story no?
bergle
Hmmm to be honest that is a explanation that I havent thought about and to be frank I think that is a very good explanation and it would explain most
of the controversy .. What do the others think ?
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 10:23 AM by onthefence81
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reply to post by Thill
I too have thought about this. There must be some individuals who work for Nasa that want people to know after all we are all humans no matter where
we work or what we do.
I would of thought alot of UFO enthusiasts try to get a job with these guys for the sole purpose of finding out the truth. If i was part of a the team
that airrushed anomalies i know i would leave a few clues around.
but saying that i think they would have procedures in place if they were dead serious about covering these up. They would have people checking the
work then other people checking the person who checked it.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 11:39 AM by Braeden
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"The Government" and "NASA" aren't the only people with telescopes, and the moon is close enough that many smaller observatory telescopes can get
fairly good looks at it. If there were indeed scores of alien tract homes on the moon, don't you think an independent astronomer (or even someone
from another government that is less evil than America) might have noticed some by now?
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 12:04 PM by poltergeist
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Honestly this is CLEARLY ( as unclear as it looks ) something being covered up by NASA. I've personally seen ufo's before in the sky, things that
hopped around and made odd aerial maneuvers with no sound and strobed different colors ( and I don't hallucinate or do drugs of any kind )
I know for a fact personally that these things are out there. Not to mention for anyone who hasn't read Ingo Swann's book I highly recommend it. The
ET base he described on the moon is probably in one of those pictures taken from the Celemntine. He described it as a tower. In this picture displayed
whatever it is looks almost as if it has steps like a type of pyramid like structure. You have to look really close but you can see a faint lines
underneath the smudge mark. Also I think the reason that NASA covers things up this way is because the most brilliant of minds will never suspect
something so easy. At least that's what THEY think!
When I was in the military they told us something about keeping things simple and stupid they called it the K.I.S.S principle. If someone asks you
about something play dumb. What NASA is doing is insulting our intelligences because they know they are wrong. Even if they did give us a vastly
superior explanation and could find a way to use cgi or something to mask the hidden areas of the moon, our most brilliant minds would still figure
out what they are doing and I think NASA knows that. That is my guess to why they want to play dumb and act like it is just a "glitch" or like we
are the crazy ones.
The old saying is "The most powerful thing the devil ever did is convince the world he doesn't exist"
Look at what NASA is doing ...
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 12:12 PM by poltergeist
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Then again your argument is based purely upon the time of the year, the exact position of the moon in the sky, the type of telescope used, and also
the avg IQ or aptitude of the person using it. Not all people will be able to figure out what's on the dark side of the moon, and NASA knows that.
There are certain organizations out there that prey upon the gullability of our country and depend upon the lack of intellectual fortitude thereof. If
these things don't exist how can you explain the number of smudges in the lunar photos... what are the odds that we'd have that many glitches in the
digital imaging system. Are we forgetting that these govt agencies have top of the line equipment that shouldn't really be smudging ?
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 12:15 PM by poltergeist
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reply to post by onthefence81
As much as I dislike governments that try to hide things from us and pretend like we just don't know what we are talking about. I have to agree with
you. Richard C Hoagland is an example of someone who has worked for NASA and believes that ET's are out there. He's even said it for the record on
C2C.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 12:37 PM by instrumentality
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if i may be so bold as to show a picture that appears to have been tampered with, but this is not of the moon. about halfway down towards the left
centre of the pic its all black and blurry. should these glitches happen on photos?
heres the link. please someone tell me that they see the cut out part of the picture. its like black and the stars are cut off so you can easily tell
something was cut out of the picture. again its almost in the center to the left a bit.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 12:37 PM by earthman4
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I worked with satelite images in cartography class. This seems normal, no structures, just bad data.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 01:12 PM by Brainiac
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Fake.
First of all get an image with better clarity then try to smudge the image. You can easily re-make this. All you need is Microsoft Paint, a filled in
Beveled square and a smudge tool from ANY photo editing software, and you 'd probably get a more believable image...
And before anyone replies, I'm an expert on this bit. I'm a computer game designer.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 01:20 PM by poltergeist
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Well that is speculatory at best. If you take into account that NASA has the most high tech equipment out there for this type of thing. Maybe we might
see one or two glitches, but more than 4 or 5 ? The odds greatly increase that the photos are being messed with and I learn more toward mathematical
odds and science rather than just assuming that it is a glitch with bad data. Afterall we are talking about NASA here, many of which the members
belong to MENSA.
They are some of the most brilliant scientific minds out there. If anyone would have figured out a way to prevent the satellites from displaying bad
data in pics they would have fixed it by now. IT is 2007 and we have relatively good technology. Not to mention as many space trips as they have made
...
There are two reasons that it could be bad data.
Either A) They deliberately haven't messed with their technology or tried to fix the glitches because they can't
or B) They deliberately haven't removed those glitches because they know if they did, they'd still have other unexplainable "glitches" and we'd
all know what those are anyway.
I lean towards B. I think that our government is way way way too intelligent to not fix something like that by now and if they didn't it is probably
deliberate. Things happen the way that they want it to happen. They don't have the most brilliant minds on the planet for no reason.
There is an extremely high likelihood that those smudges are things they don't want us to see and I agree with the double tetrahedron theory or
pyramid theory that someone mentioned earlier. I even see the entrance he was talking about and spotted that before I ever read his post.
Wouldn't NASA or our govt not want us to know much about pyramids if there was one on the moon. Especially with there being pyramids in the middle
east, close to where alot of the biblical texts originated from ?
Answer this as well ... Why does the vatican have a private space observatory in the middle of the Nevada desert that nobody is allowed to visit or
enter.
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