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 ATS MIX: Show 21 – Alien Experiencer JIM RUFF
Well Dave and Johnny think they found a real "Man in Black" and it turns out to be Jim Ruff, an "Experiencer"! While hoping to get a "bit" out
of him, they get surprised to find out that he's got a story to share about multiple UFO events. There are TWO SHOWS, our regular AUDIO SHOW and a
bonus VIDEO SHOW. See the video link below for the 2nd interview with Jim Ruff.
Jim Ruff “The Man In Black”
To DOWNLOAD This Program, WINDOWS ONLY, Put Your Mouse Cursor Over the BLUE SHOW FILE NAME, Then RIGHT
CLICK. Slide The Cursor Down To SAVE TARGET AS And Then CLICK .... Now Just Decide WHERE You Want To Download The File To And
CLICK SAVE. You Might Consider Creating A Folder Called ATS MIX .... since you can get them for FREE.
length: 25:52
file: atsmix_2583.mp3
size: 12134k
feed: atsmix
HERE IS THE VIDEO 2ND INTERVIEW THAT WAS DONE WITH JIM RUFF
NOTICE - It Takes A Few Minutes For The Shows To Integrate & Play After They Are Posted To The Site
REMEMBER – ATS MIX is only as GOOD as the MEMBER PARTICIPATION!
NEW SHOWS will be posted TWICE A WEEK.
If You Enjoyed The Show – FLAG THE MUTHA!
To Send Us Your AUDIO for possible inclusion on an ATS MIX show, PLEASE send your files ONLY to:
dave_and_johnny@mail2world.com
To DOWNLOAD This Program, WINDOWS ONLY, Put Your Mouse Cursor Over the BLUE SHOW FILE NAME, Then RIGHT CLICK. Slide The
Cursor Down To SAVE TARGET AS And Then CLICK .... Now Just Decide WHERE You Want To Download The File To And CLICK SAVE.
You Might Consider Creating A Folder Called ATS MIX .... since you can get them for FREE.
LASTLY .... and this is ONLY for the real DIE HARDS ..... because Dave and Johnny didn't want to put everything on ATS
and CLOG their HARD DRIVES  , there are over 200 different bits of VIDEO COMEDY, AUDIO COMEDY, RANTS, SKITS, BITS, GAGS and MUSIC
SHOWS on our Pod-O-Matic Podcast Home Pages.
Dave's Pod-O-Matic Home Page is located at:
daverabbit.podomatic.com...
Johnny's Pod-O-Matic Mondo Bizarro Home Page is located at:
johnnyanonymous.podomatic.com...
WARNING - SOME EXPLICIT MATERIAL (Dave's, of course )
PLEASE USE THE Pod-O-Matic SEGMENT TAGS AS YOUR GUIDE FOR APPROPRIATE LISTENING TASTES.
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 09:53 AM by observe50
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WOW,
This man seems like he is really having a difficult time with this and it makes me upset to see this.
Did you by any chance get a copy of what he wrote down I think this is something we should here about.
I know with Mufon what he said sounds familiar. It seems they investigate UFO sightings. I wrote to a Mr. Davis years ago then I got a e-mail from a
man by the name of Mr. Zeigler or something like that. Never did here from the man again, they aren't interested in hearing anything that is out of
the box, it's a shame.
This is why people haven't talked about this through the decades even today if it sounds unreal you are mocked.
There are many species right here and they all have there own agenda's just as the human's have there agenda. There is good and bad and to know
which being is what in any species is ...........
With many different species you are going to have many different understandings from the people that have experiences.... and some will be good and
some will not.
I enjoyed the show as always and hopefully other people right here at ATS will come forward and share what they have experienced.
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 12:45 PM by Dave Rabbit
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Observe50..
Thank you for your comments. Yes, Johnny has the papers that Jim Ruff gave us, but better than that.... Jim Ruff is NOW a member of ATS. His ATS NAME
is TimeTraveler96. You can click on SEARCH MEMBERS at the top of any page.... then in the GOOGLE BOX, type in timetraveler96. It will take you
to any post that he is participating in. He might also drop by here.
Dave
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 01:32 PM by timetraveler96
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Hello Observe50,
Thanks for your comments. I am feeling better. Talking about it helps, as I am sure you know.
I don't know what is going to come of this, but as you suggest, maybe others either have had a similar experience, or will have. And maybe this
interview will inspire them to come forward as well.
I did find a picture of the alien I encountered. It's the same one as the one on "Alien Interview at Area 51". So either that DVD is real, or it
does a darn good job of representing the real thing, because I tell you, that is indeed what I saw. I even described it on the MUFON web site on
August 16. Then again on August 26, where I did a better job.
Here is the description:
"I saw an alien outside Salt Lake City with the following description: dark orange-brown 'skin' I guess. I didn't see any clothing. The head was
very big, about 1/3 the size of the body. The eyes were NOT the 'wrap-around' kind, common to greys, but they were very big, comprising about 1/2
the face. They seemed to be dark brown, but glowed a dull orange in my flashlight beam. They also seemed to be slightly irregular-shaped. It was about
4 1/2 to 5 feet tall, with what appeared to be a slight smirk on its otherwise featureless face. The body was spindly, but I don't know how long the
arms were, as it was half-hidden in the brush."
Anyway, thanks again for your comments, and Peace to you.
Peace to us all.
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 05:57 PM by observe50
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Welcome to ATS.
I know what you are going through and I understand how you feel inside. People who have not had any experiences can't even begin to imagine what we
try to tell them, it is something they will have to experience themselves.
I am going to look and see is you have any thread started because I am very interested. The ones you describe sound like the two that put the
audio/visual device in through my right ear. If these are the same they are extremely scary looking "but" they aren't really all that bad in my
book at least.
If you haven't started a thread please do.
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 06:03 PM by jim_ruff
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Hello observe50,
Thanks for the welcome. It's an honor to be here.
Thanks for the post. Can you describe the ET that did that? Assuming it's ok with the forum here, I can provide a link to Wikipedia that shows the
very entity I encountered. It's an actual picture.
It's the same thing that was interviewed at Area 51, I guess.
As to 'starting a thread' I am not quite sure what that means. If you could tell me how to do it, I would be honored to comply.
Jim
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 07:23 PM by observe50
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Jim,
I think either Dave or Johnny can tell you better then me, I'm not all that great on the computer.
I would look on the left side of the screen and find where it says Conspiracy Forums look for aliens and ufo's I think it's the 4th one down. Go in
there open a thead and look around you will see on the upper right side start a new thread.
I did look up some of your writings but I am reading them backwards, duh.
You need to start a thread and start from the beginning and keep everything to 'YOUR' one thread.
I don't believe (after some reading) that the ones that implanted the audio/visual are the same. The ones that I have hazy memory of were
beigh/browm and wrinkled skin same height you described and there arms below there knees. I didn't get a good look at the face.
My experiences deal with the Grey's but I have been in the presence of different species.
I am intrigued with the power to self and/or the power to others. Sounds logical
I was told by the Elders that something happened here on Earth that was not supposed to have happened, the Elders that sent me back here are going to
try and correct this wrong when the time comes. I am one sent back here to help the human race and I believe there are others like myself here, some
may know, some may have an idea and some may not have any recall to date.
You are right about PEACE there are many things that need to be done not to save Earth... Earth will survive but to save the peoples of Earth.
Please start a new thread we need to get all experiencer/abductee's/contactee's together and talk.
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 07:39 PM by jim_ruff
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Hello observe50,
Thanks again for a fascinating post. One of the 'problems' I have after this encounter is an unexplainable 'knowing' about some things.
I don't know exactly how or from where I got this knowledge; obviously I suspect it's from 'them', but the purpose for this escapes me.
The point I am making is that while I know some things, I am unable to prove them, and it makes writing a bit difficult. People demand proof, and it
seems reasonable to provide it or else state it as fiction. I cannot state something as fiction which I know to be the truth. It's a bit of a
challenge.
Nevertheless, I will do my best to re-phrase some things, get the different parts together, and start again.
Thanks again for all your support and suggestions, observe50. I wish you peace.
Jim
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 08:06 PM by observe50
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I will be looking for a new thread by you.
I believe that everyone that has had experiences understands about the proof thing but we have to move beyond people wanting there type of proof.
Proof for people will come when either they have this happen to them or with the knowledge we have been given comes to light, and it will.
Let's just hope it isn't to late and it very well may be
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 08:34 PM by jim_ruff
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Hello observe50,
No, I don't think it's too late. But then, I may be dealing with different entities than you.
I will work on this, and get it posted in a couple of days, as soon as I figure out what I am doing.
Thanks again for your help.
Peace.
Jim
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 12:01 PM by observe50
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I believe you are correct that we are dealing with different beings.
I know there are bad and good ones and I am interested in the power to self and power to others, if you look around it can see the division in each
person.
I look forward to your thread.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 12:39 PM by jim_ruff
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Note to All,
I will be back in SLC around 10/1. What suggestions do you have for documentation, cameras, and/or camcorders?
I appreciate and all help and advice.
Peace to us all.
Jim
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 07:46 PM by Neomax
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Hello Jim, Observe50, Dave n Johnny.
I don't really know where to begin. emm. Well I have been reading on ATS for maybe a year or so now, haven't been registered that long and think
this is only my 3rd reply.
Anyhow, I'm really interested in UFOs/Aliens and Jim your experience sounds very creepy. I would like to say that if I ever seen an alien in person I
would walk up and touch it or try to communicate or something but I have never had that experience so knowing me I would probably just freeze as you
did Jim.
To Jim, I'm not going to demand any evidence or try to disprove you or anything like that as I think most people who say they have had experiences
with aliens probably are telling the truth, just a lot of people are very small minded and will never believe it. I would like to ask a few questions
though if that is ok?
Well my first would be, do you have any ideas why this alien would appear to you? like did you research or have interest in aliens before this
encounter or have you worked for the military or anything?
My second is just to ask why were you walking on this overpass at night with a torch (flashlight, I'm from UK  )
My third is would you be able to tell of the other things that you experienced that you did not mention in the interview as I am very interested, you
could send me a private message if you think it would be inappropriate to post here.
And lastly, in the video you said you have documented many types of UFO, I was wondering if you ever seen one that was sort of like a tapered cylinder
with the bottom spinning and the top being still, that flashed very vivid green lights? I'm asking as I think I have seen one about 15 feet out of my
bedroom one night, I'm not sure if I was dreaming or not but it was an odd dream if it was as it was a dream of waking up and opening my blinds to
see this thing outside, I have never had a dream where I'm in my bed and dream that I wake up. I'll go into more detail if you would like but this
post is already very long!
Now to Observe50, I was wondering if you could explain the experiences you have had?
Also I am interested in this audio/visual device you had inserted into your ear, is it still there? Do you have any ideas what it was for?
Thanks for your time guys, I know it's a lot of questions but I am very interested.
Peace
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 08:43 PM by jim_ruff
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Originally posted by Neomax
I would like to ask a few questions though if that is ok?
Well my first would be, do you have any ideas why this alien would appear to you? like did you research or have interest in aliens before this
encounter or have you worked for the military or anything?
My second is just to ask why were you walking on this overpass at night with a torch (flashlight, I'm from UK  )
My third is would you be able to tell of the other things that you experienced that you did not mention in the interview as I am very interested, you
could send me a private message if you think it would be inappropriate to post here.
And lastly, in the video you said you have documented many types of UFO, I was wondering if you ever seen one that was sort of like a tapered cylinder
with the bottom spinning and the top being still, that flashed very vivid green lights? I'm asking as I think I have seen one about 15 feet out of my
bedroom one night, I'm not sure if I was dreaming or not but it was an odd dream if it was as it was a dream of waking up and opening my blinds to
see this thing outside, I have never had a dream where I'm in my bed and dream that I wake up. I'll go into more detail if you would like but this
post is already very long!
Peace 
Neomax,
I greet you in Peace.
Thank you for your sincere and eloquent post. I will do my best to honor your questions.
1) I am not entirely certain why these beings would approach me. I am working on some theories and when they are cohesive, or at least more cohesive
than at present, I will share them.
2) I was toward the end of my journey, and the overpass was close to where I was staying at that time. I posted the entire story on here, but it was
my first time doing such a thing, and I was clumsy at best. As a result and perhaps due to some other infractions of which I am not aware, it was
deleted.
3) Basically, Neomax, the story in a nutshell is this: We have been occupied for quite some time (on the order of hundreds of thousands of years, at
the least), by a race of beings who use something call 'radionics' to stimulate and collect our negative emotions. They use these emotions as
drugs.
I saw this process taking place, and it looks remarkably similar to our cellular phone technology. I don't know what 'radionics' means, but I
suspect it's the term they use instead of 'cellular technology".
4) While I saw perhaps as many as 20 different types of craft, I have not seen, to the best of my knowledge, the craft you have described. My
apologies. Nevertheless, I encourage you to investigate this more thoroughly, as I suspect there is a great deal more to this story that you remember
at the moment.
In closing, Neomax, I thank you again for your post - and, I really like your signature. Perhaps you will let me use it as well?
Peace,
Jim
PS - Iknow what these creatures look like. There is a photgraph available but I am not sure about posting guidelines etc, and I do not wish to offend
again.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 10:21 PM by Dave Rabbit
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Jim.....
Johnny and I MODERATE the ATS MIX Forums. You are welcome to post a shortcut IF it goes to a PHOTO that shows what you are describing to the
membership.
Dave
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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 12:16 AM by jim_ruff
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Originally posted by Dave Rabbit
Jim.....
Johnny and I MODERATE the ATS MIX Forums. You are welcome to post a shortcut IF it goes to a PHOTO that shows what you are describing to the
membership.
Dave 
Thanks very much, Dave. Here is the link:
upload.wikimedia.org...
By the way, Dave and Johnny, I thought the intro was absolutely hilarious. It provided a nice contrast to the serious nature of the interview. Nice
work.
Peace.
Jim
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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 12:21 AM by Chiiru
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this may be short (sorry), but that's pretty intense... I hope you're doing well (@Jim)...and I hope things get better. I've had some weird
experiences, but not sure what it means or whatever (sorry I'm tired as I'm writing...bad combo I guess lol)Well, not sure what else to type
currently. If I wasnt so tired I'd probably have some questions, but I'll leave it as it is
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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 12:44 AM by jim_ruff
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Howdy Chiiru,
Many thanks for your kind words. I do seem to be getting better. Well at least better than how I looked at that interview. Dave and Johnny weren't
kidding when they said I looked 'disoriented". They were being polite. I look psycho.
Anyway, I did read something about your experiences, I am fairly certain. Weren't you in Arizona and something landed and then the lights went out
or something like that? Sorry if I am mixing it up with someone else. I apologize to you both if that's the case.
Thanks again, Chiiru, and Peace to you.
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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 12:50 AM by Chiiru
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No, I'm pretty sure that isnt me.  I had created a thread asking what was going on with all this stuff thats been going on since I was a kid
An Awkward Question.
This morning I made a Word 'diary' to post up, kinda like a dream diary, cuz some weird stuff keeps happening, although I'm lucky if I even barely
remember the next morning.  I've typed about a page, all on stuff from last night that bothered me (didn't seem right so I've been questioning).
If you're interested in hearing it, thats cool, if not, oh well.
Thanks for reading nevertheless
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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 01:02 AM by jim_ruff
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Chiiru,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, An Awkward Question. Now I remember. My apologies. I was actually going to ask you something about that, but due to a
mixup on my part, my posting privileges were removed. Now I can't remember what it is. I'll go back and re-read, and ask you later.
Oh my gosh, I just remembered I need to send an e-mail to someone. If I can. Sorry for the detour there, Chiiru.
I think a dream diary is a great idea. I started a journal of some kind to track my 'recovery' from this nightmare. It actually seems to help.
Do you write down the dreams right after you have them? I did that. I mean, I wrote down the account right after this nightmare. In parts, as Dave
found out. I had to sleep sometime.
Anyway, yes I am very interested in what is going on with you. Do you really think they are 'dreams'. Or possibly...something else? Do they seem
like prophetic dreams?
It sounds extremely interesting. Let me know in a private post if you are not comfortable sharing it with the world.
I wish you peace, Chiiru.
Jim
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