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Student Arrested, Tasered at Kerry Event

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posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Griff
A set up that went too far.


Depends on how you look at it. IMO, if that is in fact the case, it got exactly the desired result. Dude came off like a loon in many eyes. That's exactly what 'they' want.

Peace




posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Leyla
reply to post by geemony
 


Geemony we are all entitled to our opinions. You have yours and I have mine. And thats ok. But don't tell me I don't get it. I've seen more then you know. I am sorry I did get huffy about this. But this whole Florda-EU deal is wrong. For what the EU stands for I do not support at all. Thats my view.

Both of my parents were teachers. My uncle, my cousin, both of my grandparents were teachers. Education is important without a doubt. But not at the cost of our freedoms.



Point taken but you said the university was being funded by the EU. This is not a true statement by any stretch. And I really dont see how this is trampling any freedoms. infact it is the definition of American Freedom IMO. The US has alot of university influence world wide, why shouldnt it be ok to get another point of view from outside our country. You know the US doesnt have all the answers and you know we may just learn something about global economics.

Anyway thank you for the discussion and take care.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:36 AM
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There is a LARGE boundry to compare this jerk to seizure of property by the DEA or a SWAT insertion. Also, you loons are talking about HOW bad the government is oppressing us and what not when these where campus police. Campus police???Does GW send them a check in the mail each week. No, but with the VT shootings, you should have an awareness, in a public forum, that you cannot 'keep it real" This is a prime example of 'When keeping it real goes wrong" .

He did nothing to further any agenda, did not help ANY cause and basically did nothing but make a bunch of internet bloggers argue about his dumb antics. He got what he wanted in a way.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:36 AM
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complete and utter crap - the police broke the law pure and simple and should be in prison now.

i hope he sues them for billions.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by 19DCW71
And you wonder why people hate cops.If you can't subdue 1 man with all those cops by physical means alone then you shouldn't be a cop.As far as I'm concerned the only people who need cops are the weak and useless.


Yes but your missing one important thing. Although there were many cops, they were trying to restrain him without hurting him, which is a very hard thing to do when someone is flailing all over the place, and assaulting the officers as well.

Sure they could have taken him down right then by physical means alone, but they wanted to escort him out of the building without incident. When a man becomes violent I think a quick taze, and handcuff is easier, and less likely to injure the suspect and bystanders.

Five large officers tackiling this guy in a small aisle of an auditorium could have resulted in a bad situation, the guy could've had a knife, a gun, who knows. They are ALOT of crazy people out there.

I', getting pretty sick and tired of people hating on cops when every other day I see officers being killed in the line of duty, to protect who...? Oh that's right you.

This was as textbook as an arrest can be, clean, and safe, and resulted in no injuries to the suspected like broken bones or ribs, ect, when 5 cops tackle you.

It should and most likely will be shown as an instructional video to Officers in training, on how to properly take down a violent suspect, in a crowded confined area.

I'm not for a Police state, and I don't like seeing Military police,in full riot gear, beating people who are excercizing their right to free speech and protesting or what have you, but this was totally different.

But I think there's just too many people who take for granted the risks these officers take every time they pull over a car and walk over to the window, they could be shot in the face instantly.

In my opinion, good clean cops deserve alot more credit than they get, and its a shame a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

[edit on 18-9-2007 by Nola213]



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:40 AM
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I wonder what kinda guy he is in the eyes of the other students for them to laugh at him?

Also, didn't he get the results an activists would want, media attention to his cause, whatever that is.

I would say he came out the winner on this one, this made everyone look bad.

[edit on 18-9-2007 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:41 AM
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What law did they break exactly?

Face it the guy had an agenda, and he wanted to make a scene, he brought it on himself, and he's lucky they have tazers, or else he woulda been justifiably beaten down by night sticks.

You do Not Resist the Police.

Sue the police for defending themselves? haha, thats the funniest thing I ever heard. Just because he cried louder than a 4 year old throwing a tantrum in a Toys R US when they don't get what they want after being tazed, doesnt mean it's that painful. He was playing it up. I'm not saying being tazed doesn't hurt but, c'mon. If your gonna fight the police, your gonna get hurt.



[edit on 18-9-2007 by Nola213]



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:51 AM
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This being a conspiracy site, what if the students who were laughing were in on it and new in advance what he was planning on doing?


and Kerry too.

I guess we will have to wait for the interviews.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 11:58 AM
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Poor analogy in my opinion. Your talking about your own property, and doing nothing worng and the police just coming in without a warrant.

Apples and oranges. The scenario you described has 0% to do with the issue being discussed here.

This event took place in public where there were innocent bystanders within close proximity to this person who became violence and beligerent when he was just ask to leave the premisses quitely.

The police have all those other peoples safety to be concerned with as well. Again for all they know this guy coulda been a psycho and pulled a knife or a gun. I think they did their job perfectly, but again that's just my opinion.

Which the bulk of it comes from the fact I believe this guy had an agenda, and wanted to cause a scene. Again he's lucky they have non lethal human ways of subdueing out of control people who want to fight the police.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but CNN is all over this. Read the comments most are for the student. I'm for him too.


# Story Highlights
# NEW: Kerry statement: "I regret ... a good healthy discussion was interrupted"
# Andrew Meyer was asking questions at forum when campus police grabbed him
# Speaker, Sen. John Kerry, offered to answer Meyer's questions
# Police tried to remove Meyer from the room, then Tasered and arrested him

There is also a different angle with the video.


[edit on 18-9-2007 by LDragonFire]



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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I've been reading the posts and I'm surprised at the number of people saying things like "he was annoying though," and "it's not smart to resist like that," and whatever other ridiculous sheeple banter that isn't complete outrage! This was disgusting. He asked the two most pertinant questions about Skull and Bones and the quick concession. He asked questions. I don't care if he was drunk and screaming at John Kerry... tazered and tackled by 5 cops?? That's not OK no matter how laughingly they downplay it on MSNBC. Then you've got Christopher Bollyn getting beat up and tazered, then charged with assault!! All for reporting pertinant 9/11 information. Everybody needs to get themselves informed and double efforts in spreading the truth about 9/11, the NAU, and the NWO!



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
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complete and utter crap - the police broke the law pure and simple and should be in prison now.

i hope he sues them for billions.


Maybe not billions.
I hope he gets a few million to be honest.

I cannot express how SICK this video made me feel...... not that the guy was suppressed for asking questions... not that he was attacked by police with over excessive force.. and not that he was assaulted in the act by a weapon, but the fact that everyone looked.. awe struck... perhaps because they are used.. or not used.. to this kind of activity (put your . in the sand and it goes away) ..

30 years ago if that happened I have a feeling the students would have helped their fellow out.

Just sickening, that we stand by and let it happen.. the guy was attacked by law enforcement, but the law enforcement people are only within the lines of protection of their own position as long as they themselves follow the guidelines WE place around them. When breaking the boundary of protector and attacker, I believe their actions deserve the ultimate reactions, They became the enemy. The other students should have defended their fellow but did not, they sat like cowards. Cowards that don't give a damn about other people then their own safety. Sickening. These cops are no better then the British soldiers who suppressed with force and brutality the civilians before 1777. Where is the outcry?

I say find the bastards that arrested and attacked this guy, take their gun, take their badge, throw them in the cell and lock them up for treason, because attacking an American for expressing his own right to be angry at a politician, a mere senator at that, is imo, treason.

How far will America allow such barbarism to go? First we tackle 21 year olds in college campuses for questioning a politician. Then we imprison people for expressing opposing ideologies? When we get to the point where we shoot people in the . for thinking against the government, is that when we decide to do something, when its to late?

and I hope this proves to all of you. Its not NEO cons who are acting like this. Its not Democrats who are acting like this. ITS THE WHOLE DAMN GOVERNMENT. One in the same, there is no difference but lies.

Simply disgusting.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by freight tomsen
I've been reading the posts and I'm surprised at the number of people saying things like "he was annoying though," and "it's not smart to resist like that," and whatever other ridiculous sheeple banter that isn't complete outrage! This was disgusting. He asked the two most pertinant questions about Skull and Bones and the quick concession. He asked questions. I don't care if he was drunk and screaming at John Kerry... tazered and tackled by 5 cops?? That's not OK no matter how laughingly they downplay it on MSNBC. Then you've got Christopher Bollyn getting beat up and tazered, then charged with assault!! All for reporting pertinant 9/11 information. Everybody needs to get themselves informed and double efforts in spreading the truth about 9/11, the NAU, and the NWO!


He was Tackled Then Tasered by cops. And the argument that the cops didn't want to hurt him is a joke, They tasered him didn't they????

Freedom of speech now has a price to pay, Sad.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:06 PM
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Not to entirely disagree with you on some of your points, but I fail to see where the police officers were "defending" themselves from much of anything.
It was an excessive response to a small situation.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:08 PM
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Hmm

I am surprised that so many think he deserved this in some way.

Since when has being a little eccentric or attention whoring been a reason for 9 cops and a tazer gun to come into play?

Did you watch the video?

He was asking a question, his mic got turned off, he turned around and had his hands up in the air. Then they grabbed him physically and tried to drag him from the room. He reacted as a man who was angry, and wanted to be heard and yes he was nusto, but nusto's have rights to? yes?

No one was in danger, no one felt threatened. they were all smiling and sitting down quietly as he got dragged form the room. Even Kerry said to leave him be so he could answer the question.

I am all for supporting your law enforcement, but this is not about that issue. This is a clear violation of this persons rights.

I dont care if he was hamming it up for the cameras. It isnt right.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by esdad71


as far as the meds comment Boon, if you have ever known anyone who was bipolar, that was a manic episode.


well, my uncle is bi polar...that count?
you havce no idea if that was a manic episode or not...NONE....just trying to form your own theory....you see a couple a few minute long vids and in your infinite wisdom, you have decided he is manic or whatever....

sure bud



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:12 PM
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I dont know if this has been posted in the thread earlier, but here is the thing from another view and here is the entire event.

I have only watched the beginning in these two, since I dont ever want to see that guy get tazored again while screaming in pain. It was horrible to me.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Nola213


Getting extremely violent with the police is not a smart idea.




is that what he did? this one kid got 'extremely' violent?

guess that shows you that different eyes see different things.

this kid had his arms up in the air, asking what he did wrong..towards the end he was trying to shake them off but he was not throwing strikes or trying to hurt these people....

that is not 'extremely' violent.....



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:16 PM
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Certainly the wise thing to do when in this situation is, do what you are told, however that wont get you the desired results.

I must add I think it is awful this kid got treated this way.

Not much different then the sacrificial lamb for a cause.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Nola213


Yes but your missing one important thing. Although there were many cops, they were trying to restrain him without hurting him, which is a very hard thing to do when someone is flailing all over the place, and assaulting the officers as well.



he didn't start 'flailing' about till the end, when there were about 5 guys on him...he didn't assault them either...if anything, they assaulted him.

i think you are missing an important point.

WHY did they even approach this kid, from behind and just start to grab him?

are they not supposed to talk to you and tell you what is what? they just grabbed him...

hopefully he will bring a suit against them and end up owning part of the school or something.
bwuahahahahahahah

friggin tired of the fuz doing what they want......i know they were campus fuzz, but fuzz none the less



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