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Originally posted by John_Q_Llama
Having recently deconverted out of Christianity, I am starting to think about things from a new perspective. One thing that has been on my mind lately is the origin and role of the book of Revelation from the Bible.
The reason I ask is because some of the Biblical imagery as well as things that Christians today believe will happen in the time period before/during/after the time when Christ returns seems unique compared to other religions.
I mean, if the people who wrote and assembled the Bible did so knowing that they were merely rehashing older writings, then they put Revelation (and the other associated prophesy-related content) there for a reason. Is it just there to keep people roped in while they wait for Christ's return? Or do you think there is something more they had intended?
Originally posted by John_Q_Llama
Thanks for the responses! Excellent insight! I really appreciate the info. Now I have somewhere from which to start looking more deeply into this topic.
I find it amusing that this stuff has been altered so much over time, and yet Christians don't think to question that.
Originally posted by Hallberg Rassy
PLease research the sybilline Oracles.
that is the origin of the book of revelations, there is nothing new under the sun, just recycled stories. The organized church hunted down and killed scribes and scholars that translated many of the original works.
It is easy to claim ownership with truth is murdered.
My issue with the Bible is people treat it as a spiritual destination, something it was never intended to be. It is more like a primer, intended to lead to further truths. Christ never wrote anything down, never over saw construction of churches..People become stuck on worshiping objects, instead of following the truth. The bible is no different, it is an Object people tend to become fixated on.
Originally posted by DIRTMASTER
That pretty well covers it.. historically.
here is an example of misinterpretation:
the numbers 666 and 144,000 ect where more advanced symbols than commonly thought. see a dictionary of symbols by j.e.cirlot...for the long explanation on the ancient theory of numbers. just look under numbers in the book. here is a summary. people of that time used numbers like we do exponents in math.. to shorten things. each number has specific meanings then when applied in sequence to another number expands the meaning. an educated person could read a number and get a paragraphs worth of information.. basically 666 as a sequence is simply a summery of everything in that section the long description of the various evils. after that john did not have to respecify all that data every time it came up just add 666.. its true off the other numbers as well.
the book doesn't read the same at all to us as it did to the actual intended recipients.
whether it has info for our time people will debate till Americans stop eating cows. hopefully not in my life time. is the bible a bad or misleading book?
i would venture no. most of it simply was written for other peoples..and it s our own misunderstandings and egos that lead us astray.
Originally posted by janasstar
reply to post by John_Q_Llama
John, I have a question for you that might make all the difference. Did you ever have the born-again experience as a Christian? I have a reason for asking. Without this spiritual transformation, it is impossible to understand the things of God.
Since I had the experience, it's no longer a question or doubt of God's existence. He communicates with my spirit. I have met Him in my spirit. God is a Spirit and we have to deal with Him in spirit.
[edit on 9/19/2007 by janasstar]