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reply posted on 17-1-2008 @ 07:13 AM by saint4God
Originally posted by goosdawg
NOt so fast...I would propose that this case, due to lack of indisputable evidence proving anything either way, be classified as undetermined.


Thank you!

Originally posted by goosdawg
We don't even have any iron-clad proof "Ranbo" is a really a fifteen year-old boy, do we?

I mean, do we?

After all, anyone can claim a particular MySpace page "proves" they are who they say they are...but...

Even that is subject to fabrication.

An interesting story is where this will remain, in my estimation, barring any introduction of solid, incontrovertible evidence to sway opinions.

Even the simple, real time exercise I pitched way back when, would not have been certain to "prove" anything except...well...that one certain aspect of this case may not have been staged.

The result of such a test would still have been entirely open to one's interpretation.


If there was the "way above top secret award" still around, I'd vote you for it. I appreciate this kind of level-headed thinking in a time where self-propelled drama is in vogue.

Originally posted by goosdawg
At any rate, thanks for a diverting exercise in the all too human desire to believe/disbelieve anything presented online, based upon what one wants to believe to be true, Ranbo.

Let that be a lesson to us all...


Not so fast (sorry, I love that line). Just because we want or don't want something to be true doesn't make it so, even in ether-space. When I read this post in the beginning, I was undecided whether Ranbo's incident was a person, demon, or merely a good story online. With both research and some experiences that happened to me during the course of this study, I became convinced this story is probably valid. Want me to prove it? Can't. Not unless I can somehow cause those same experiences to happen to the reader. I know! I'll use my "Christian mind-control powers" that all the people on other threads say I have. Ready? Look into my eyes... @_@

[edit on 17-1-2008 by saint4God]


reply posted on 22-1-2008 @ 02:58 PM by goosdawg
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It looks like a highly filtered version of the image of Vassago Ranbo presented waaaay back on the first page.

And, frankly, it creeps me out.

And, also, partially for that reason, I'm not gonna download it to look at it any closer.

A further explanation from debris765nju, and perhaps a reposting of the image, using [ ats] [ /ats] BB Code tags around the image url, so we don't have to download it to examine it, would be somewhat helpful.

Thanks


reply posted on 22-1-2008 @ 08:17 PM by dudeman
reply to post by Ranbo



In your picture the guy was smiling, he doesnt look scary he looks fun.


reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 11:27 AM by Artifexus
reply to post by saint4God



Saint, I'm not referring to the 'demon,' I'm referring to the OP's grandmother. We 'know' the date she died, so it should be possible to match up a death record with his claim. It's his maternal grandmother, iirc, which might make it harder to track down due to name changes, but I think you also know his name and location, if I'm not mistaken, and I think he may have mentioned her age. There should be a death record of this person. If not, it casts more doubt on his assertions. It could be hard depending on where she lived, where the funeral was, and her last name (did she ever remarry, change names, etc), but it also might be relatively 'easy.'

I was just a little surprised no 'sleuths' tried to confirm this detail.


reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 12:00 PM by behindthescenes
Originally posted by Artifexus
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post by saint4God



Saint, I'm not referring to the 'demon,' I'm referring to the OP's grandmother. We 'know' the date she died, so it should be possible to match up a death record with his claim. It's his maternal grandmother, iirc, which might make it harder to track down due to name changes, but I think you also know his name and location, if I'm not mistaken, and I think he may have mentioned her age. There should be a death record of this person. If not, it casts more doubt on his assertions. It could be hard depending on where she lived, where the funeral was, and her last name (did she ever remarry, change names, etc), but it also might be relatively 'easy.'

I was just a little surprised no 'sleuths' tried to confirm this detail.


Another major hole in Ranbo's story.

There are no obituaries in the paper of record for Ranbo's area concerning the death of his grandmother. I'm not sure it even took place.

This was probably another piece of his imagination coming out on our system. Again, I know you guys are all die-hard believers in Ranbo, but to me, he just trolled us. That's my conclusion, and I stick with it (after actual research on my part).


reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 01:45 PM by goosdawg
reply to post by behindthescenes



I was under the impression he was home-schooled.

Is that not what he mentioned at some point?


reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 01:54 PM by behindthescenes
Originally posted by goosdawg
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post by behindthescenes



I was under the impression he was home-schooled.

Is that not what he mentioned at some point?



That maybe the case at the time. Although, as it comes to light now, that had nothing to do with lifestyle choice. It seemed to be by necessity. And the fact that he failed to mention it, particularly that it may have been germaine, seems odd.

The facts are the facts. Unless there is someone in his small town with the exact same name -- under my confidence -- then he was expelled.
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