What is going to happen is a renew increased attacks against diplomat convoys with blackwater escort, this will benefit the Bush administration and his goal of keeping as many troops as posible in that nation.

What a whole bunch of BS, it looks to me that the results are wanted and pushed.

who would of thought killing 39 innocent civillians. would of got them banned.

they killed thousands and they cry about 39 let em kill the world.

I haven't read this whole thread, but my buddy is an MP, he says Blackwater has been unbanned. He says the US military has threatened the Iraqi gov that they would leave if Blackwater isn't allowed in, and the heads of the Iraqi mil. instantly buckled and gave in.

I haven't seen this substantiated, but thought I would share.

Originally posted by tha stillz
He says the US military has threatened the Iraqi gov that they would leave if Blackwater isn't allowed in, and the heads of the Iraqi mil. instantly buckled and gave in.

That's like choosing between a kick to the balls or a kick to the head!

And I'm awaiting further verification of the "immediately buckled" part.

Peace

[edit on 21-9-2007 by Dr Love]

Before replies are posted to this thread implying that Blackwater personnel or any others that you call mercenaries in Iraq have been involved in numerous incidents against indigenous civilians that far outnumber military personnel, you should be able to state the numbers. So I implore you to provide those numbers. Before you say you can't and before you say they aren't available your wrong they are available, you just need to get off your lazy bums and find them.

You all suffer from what I call Magnificent Seven Syndrome, it's OK to use hired gunslingers to do your dirty work and fight wars the way they are supposed to be fought, until you feel you need to target them to assuage yourselfs of any guilt or feelings of inferiority.

Wars are dirty nasty things that are fought by and won by the people who are the dirtiest and nastiest. There is no way to win a nice war because there is no such thing.

I agree that a lot of the information and numbers from all of the sides in this matter are rumor and disinformation and that leads to a lot of the confusion. However there are hard numbers and facts that are available. Accepting that all information should be taken with a grain of salt. My post was motivated by an early post which stated acting with impunity these mercenaries have committed numerous actions that outnumber u.s. military personnel.

And before some sage analytical persons reads my post and posits the question. Yes, I am one of these "mercenaries", freelance type not employed by Blackwater though.

Originally posted by makeitso Besides, you sidestepped the question. When other countries, like the U.K. use outside contractors for diplomatic escorts, are they considered mercenaries?

Actually makeitso, I did not. I believed I fully answered your comment above.

In this country, there are three types of close protection services.

1. The premiere service is the RPG or Royal Protection Group. This is currently staffed by members of the Police (SO 19) and serving members of the armed forces - and as such, are covered by the Geneva Convention, when operating outside the UK.

2. The second CP service is the DPG or Diplomatic Protection Group. Usually this is wholly staffed by a department within the Met. Again, because they are serving members of the Police, they are covered by the Geneva Convention, outside the UK.

3. Lastly with have the Military Close Protection Group. These are serving members of the armed forces. Their task is to protect high ranking officers when on overseas duties.

Again, because they are serving members ofg the armed forces, they are covered by the Geneva Convention when operating outside the UK.

Makeitso, it is because they are serving policemen/women and serving members of the armed forces that they are covered by the Geneva Convention.

If they were members of a private security company hired to protect Gordon Brown on a swift visit to say Afghanistan, then they would not be protected by the GC.

Does that clear the muddy waters for you? I do understand your confusion but my friend, all yoiu have to do, is do a little digging around yourself.

I think there are a great many problems in American society and also a great many wrongs being done throughout the world in the People's name.

However, I am also of the opinion that the Great American People are not told the whole truth.

If they were, like the Viet Nam War and the atrocities conducted their (on both sides) then I feel sure that most Americans would speak out against these war mongering swine and what they stand for! How a government can condone this sort of behaviour is beyond me.

I have two friends who own international security companies. They are both ex regulars and one has an SF background. They only recruit from Brit SF and those Paras or Marines who have seen recent active service.

Should their operatives behave like this Blackwater scum, they would be handed over to the Irai police for due process.

Sadly, Blackwater (and those like them) illustrates what is wrong within a certain section of American society.

Banning Blackwater was just the first step in eliminating a small portion of terror in the region. These mercenaries resemble ruthless thugs that could care less about slaying the innocent just so they can bathe in blood money. Whose money? Our money.

One or two mistakes are acceptable, but when it becomes a repetitive act as well as the Possibility of these acts being intentional is unacceptable.

Maybe the CIA should start abducting thugs off the streets, teach them about heavy weapons, give them the objectives, send them off, and reward them with a large bounty of cash when the job is done. There are only two ways they can be done. Sloppy, or Sh***y.

About the video, I tried to view it but as error says: This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Aegis Defence Services BVI Limited.

Of course I could look it up on youtube, unfortunately, my computer has some issues on playing videos on the YouTube site.

[edit on 10-2-2010 by QuantumDeath]