France says it must prepare for possible war with Iran

Originally posted by themaster1
Nobody demonize Iran man except maybe U.S media outlets, the truth is they don't cooperate anymore and that is unacceptable.

Did you read the thread I pointed you towards?

Please feel free to post a rebuke there if you think I got any part of my article wrong.
Here's the link again: Understanding the Iran Dis-Info Campaign

Originally posted by FredT


THe FM said such action was not imminent and it may be a bluff to increase the pressure on Iran, but I doubt it. Iran knows the power possesing the bomb will bring them and if they can pull it off they would basically become the preiminent ME state. It also would force Isreal to arm up 9which of cource we would pay for). If the isrealis of the US takes any sort of action after that point, who knows where the bomb would go off.

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Yup... Polish up those slightly used, and only dropped once combat riflles with the shiney bayonets.

OHHH my goodness. I apologize for that, but I haven't said anything politically incorrect since 1978!

It really seems interesting to me that France would get itself into a position like that after they have been found, on other occasions, supporting the Iranians. Have to wonder who didn't pay their bills in a timely fashion?

Sorry for all that, I'm just getting depressed with the extent of the world level of Bull DaDA that continues to build.

Anyone beside me feel like they are in a Kafkaesque play?

And now Iran is angry at France

www.cnn.com...

Now I thought that Iran did not see this one coming, if only we had the support of Russia and China on this one, it might be possible to bring Iran to something that everone will agree upon.

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Well,well,well the French possibly preparing for war eh I never thought I would see the day. But on another note if they did go to war they would probably have some trouble with sleeper cells. Afterall France does have a large muslim population(some possibly being radical).

Mm something's brewing.

Last week it was RAF & Saudi aircraft buzzing over the Scottish Highlands. And now Exercise Skylance is about to begin ...

"The aim of Exercise SKYLANCE is to provide joint collective training in a multi-threat environment for UK units and invited NATO and Allied units and their staffs. In the region of 80 aircraft from 6 nations will operate from various bases in England and Scotland. The majority of the aerial activity will take place over Northern England, the Borders and most of Scotland, off the north, west and east coast of Scotland and limited areas of Wales and Southern England. There will also be considerable activity at Spadeadam, Cape Wrath, Loch Ewe and RAF Fairford.

The exercise will involve many different types of aircraft including Harrier, Typhoon, Tornado, Etendard, Rafale and Mirage. E-3s, Nimrods, VC-10s and Tristars will be operating at upper levels"

www.mod.uk...
news.bbc.co.uk...

I can't quite remember when there's been such an intense period of activity in the skies over Scotland.

Originally posted by Infoholic
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I was thinking... Why wouldn't Bush, Germany, France, Israel, and whomever else suggest that Iran join the US led nuclear energy initiative instead of threatening war?

Because the regime of Iran is one of the few which continuously threatens to destroy Israel and it's allies.....

You don't invite any country to join you who has threatened one of your allies and yourself with destruction....

Originally posted by BitRaiser

Originally posted by themaster1
Actually, they did quite a lot.

If you go over the factual record, Iran went to extraordinary lengths to attempt to ensure there was international trust in it's program. They agreed to inspections and requirements that were not applied to any other member of the NPT. They voluntarily suspended their enrichment program, even though it is NOT a requirement under the NPT. Germany, France, the UK, and Russia were all partners in building their program.

Sorry Mate but thats only the halftruth. Iran allowes only Inspectors in specific areas. They are not free to go where they want. Second, Imagine Hitler would said he only want to build a nuclear reactor for power, would you believed him?

The Iranian leader mentioned more than 1 time that his intension is to "wipe israel away from any world map". How stupid is this guy to make such and other comments and expecting that the world believe into a peaceful Iran?

I know many Iranian people who left the country months ago. They say this guy is dangerous and IS building a ultimate weapon to "remove" the jews.

reply to post by mallory-john


I know several Americans who believe that George Bush helped plan and execute the 9/11 attacks on his own country and I know many more who have moved away from the US to escape the administration's rule.

Does this prove anything?

No.

Claims that Iran has threatened to "wipe Israel off the face of the map" have all come from MEMRI, an agency with significant Israeli interests.

There has never been a complaint against Iran emanating from IAEA. They have been compliant with all normal demands under the NPT. They have agreed to extraordinary measures regarding inspections that have not be applied to any other signing member of the NPT. They voluntarily suspended enrichment for one year with the understanding that the UK, France, and Germany would help clear them before the security counsel and allow certain embargoes to be lifted. After 3 years, they had still not resumed enrichment, but the E3 had not lived up to their end of the deal. Enrichment resumed. The US and Israel forced the issue before the security console, despite the fact that no breach of the NPT occurred. The security console began an investigation, but an outraged Iran refused to fully comply.

Considering that they bent over backwards to accommodate the NPT and IAEA, even to the extent of complying with measures that no other nation has ever been subjected to, yet they were still treated as criminals on the world stage without a shred of proof, I can understand the outrage.

Ask yourself this; How would you react to being called a criminal nation without any proof and threatened with destruction?

I'd prolly tell the Counsel (as a vehicle of Israel/US interests) to go themselves too.

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If the French are going to fight, then we must have ALOT of money behind them. France joining the US for war is a rarity, if it ever happens in a 5 decade period. WOW, nice France, we actually have some Euro support. I guess they just don't want their Iraqi funds destroyed by Iran's eventual invasion.

Iran needs to make diplomatic bonds with Russia or maybe even the SCO that are written in stone. All these loose alliances are dangerous in a time like this and I don't think it's fair for Americans or Iranians to go day by day contemplating an attack. An alliance with the SCO would be sufficient to stave off any American attacks, atleast for now. Right now, I don't understand why Russia, who lives on the same continent are less worried about their safety than my own government is. I love my country and my freedoms but I think there is a gross misuse of power going on with my own government and I'd like to see it stop by anymeans that don't include more bombs, rockets, bullets and the loss of innocent lives who are caught between two governments.

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[edit on 18-9-2007 by DeadFlagBlues]

If the French are going to fight, then we must have ALOT of money behind them. France joining the US for war is a rarity, if it ever happens in a 5 decade period. WOW, nice France, we actually have some Euro support. I guess they just don't want their Iraqi funds destroyed by Iran's eventual invasion.

Not really. As Blair was and Brown is, Sarko is a neo-con... all the money it took was the money behind him to get him elected. Also, the zionists are really powerful in France... France didn't went into Iraq with the US because Europe and particulary France had contracts with Saddam and were making money on the oil for food programme. Otherwise they would have been in Iraq too.

Sarkozy isn't there for money, he's there for Israël, globalism and the new powers he will grant himself when real terrorists attack will happen in France from the backslash of France's participation in Iran.

BitRaiser: +100000

[edit on 18-9-2007 by Vitchilo]

ok faze 2 already in place. anyone ready for a draft?

Originally posted by Malichai
The people of France should have known this would happen when they were voting for a Zionist administration. The last one kept France out of Iraq but the new one will send their boys off to die for Israel.

Last I checked the French President, was not Jewish. Explain "Zionist"...

And, the last administration's socialist efforts lead to further political correctness and liberalization, which lead to a pent up of frustrations, which lead to people turning a blind eye to real problems because it was PC to ignore them and give them for suitable names to make them seem less a problem to burden their socialist society, which lead to riots and a falling economy.

Of course, the war in Iraq did not help the French for sure..

They where the largest oil contract holders in Iraq.. when Iraq fell the contracts under Saddam where VOID, and France lost billions in taxable income..

They fought America at the UN and on TV, because they did not want the contracts VOID, they refused to help.. so America gave the contracts to the UK. Now, if Iran falls and France helps us where the UK most likely will not this time around, we can hand them a handful of contracts to bring in a few more billion in taxable income. Germany included in this as well. Helping Israel? Sure, in a weird completely unrelated way I suppose, see, the Israelis are not actually in any position to fear the Iranians.. an Attack on Israel by Iran would destabilize the entire region. Israel has no reason to fear ballistic missiles or scuds, they have the same defenses as Kuwait, which did not get hit by a single scud launched at them in Gulf War 2.

It's about oil, it's about money, it's about power and status and thats that. The Europeans need to exploit Iranian oil, and they most likely WILL. Eventually.

Off to die for Israel. Zionist. Such talk reminds me more of an undereducated school child ranting on about topics he cannot comprehend.

What the hell is so damn great about Israel that every one seems to think they control the world??

They are about the size of New York, smaller actually, and with a lower population even. Because they are Jews, and scary zionist Jews will come and get you and own all the European CHRISTIAN leaders?

Originally posted by bodrul

Originally posted by Keebie
If france comes to our side this time I will resume eating french fries!

well you do you eat fries already?
unless of course you eat the fries from a US liberated french fries factory invaded and freed by US special forces

on Topic
France is just calling this bluff as they know any action against Iran would Unite the people even more.
guess no one likes to learn from history

[edit on 16-9-2007 by bodrul]

Originally posted by Vitchilo

Not really. As Blair was and Brown is, Sarko is a neo-con... all the money it took was the money behind him to get him elected. Also, the zionists are really powerful in France... France didn't went into Iraq with the US because Europe and particulary France had contracts with Saddam and were making money on the oil for food programme. Otherwise they would have been in Iraq too.

Sarkozy isn't there for money, he's there for Israël, globalism and the new powers he will grant himself when real terrorists attack will happen in France from the backslash of France's participation in Iran.

BitRaiser: +100000

[edit on 18-9-2007 by Vitchilo]

I'm a proud Zionist though, and I am all for the Jews going it out on their own. They got crap loads of munitions from us from the past 60 years.

This is because of Sarkozy, that Bush's conservative valet. I would be ready to bet Sarkozy receive economic support from Bushes "friends" to win his campaign. He was competing against a woman aswell, some fools still believe men are better at ruling countries. If women ruled all the countries of the world, there wouldn't be messes like there is now. Also, the possibility that the election was tricked is very possible aswell.

In all cases, Sarkozy is a very very bad thing. The french would have never allied with the USA if it wasn't because of that backstabber.

reply to post by Atlantix


The French would never ally with the US period. They hate us because we failed Vietnam, we failed helping them in WW2, we failed helping them everywhere. But that's not my problem. Leaching to another country always gets you screwed. France learned it the hard way, now we, the US, are about to also.

Oh My, when we have the biggest US bashing country in the world talking about going to war with Iran, makes you wonder if they've secretly loved America all along.

The Pacifists are finally waking up and smelling the coffee, how will the lefties spin this.

reply to post by Dallas


French troops are in the Afgan fight and the war on Terror (Just not in Iraq) so yes they are no longer odd man out as far as NATO. The US and NATO would have defended them if they were attacked anyway. Chirac was a dirt bag and very corrupt.
Germany is the one we have to watch, She is predicted to go back to her old ways in the Gog Magog alliance.

reply to post by Gorman91


Your wrong about that. The French would be speaking German if it wasn't for us Americans and Brits. We did owe them that but give us some credit where its due.

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