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Its Starting...NBC Promotes the Verichip

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posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 01:43 PM
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Apparently living causes cancer. Do you ever see dead people with cancer? I think not. As soon as they die it Mysteriously stops *glances to all corners of the room in case "THEY" are here*


Are you saying that because I am alive I will get cancer…no living does not cause cancer, get your facts straight! A person can live a normal live and get no trace of cancer, it is only when certain circumstances come in like bad food, genetic disorder…microchip under the skin giving way to excessive growth of the cells around it, it is when these factors are in place that cancer develops. Go read a book on cancer buddy…





PEOPLE if you do see those kinds of commercials in the future, do not get dragged into them at all, the chips will have all your information on them over time, giving the bankers that control these companies with your info everything, giving them control of all your money. To top it all of they will know were you are at all times... in the end it will be mandatory from when you are born.



Of course not! When i market my chips its not going to be so superficial. It will be a direct talk with the people saying what information they have, what they will be used for and what you gain by having it.

Those who refuse gain none of the benefits.

Imagine, your commercials, what happens when you yourself fall down a cliff yourself?

No chip? Ooops *dead*



I have do admit there are some great factors contributing to the chip ( if you were a blind kid that gets lost all the time), but I would much rather prefer a chip places in a watch or something so I can put it on and take it off when I want to…and also not have my money, and everything else on that chip. You don’t get it do you, these chips, they will have your money on them…so you wont have a credit card, and that means no private funds for yourself…it will be out to the open for what ever person is in charge of the chip, they will have all your money. All your information will be on that chip, every felony, crime, you will be tracked, how would you like it if someone was watching you at all times knowing were you are…I wouldn’t





My cats are glad they have their chips, so am i. I still have them because of it.




Are you saying you can talk to your cats, do they actually have any awareness to know that they have a tracking system implemented in them. I doubt that they really like the fact that they have a metal object under their skin, and I doubt that they like that their chances of getting cancerous tumors have increased. Don’t put your own opinions on other people including animals…lol, and you still have them, well maybe if you took care of them and loved them they wouldn’t run away and you wouldn’t need the chip.





Much too easily spotted, marketing is much more subtle than you think.

wait...GOOD marketing is more subtle than you think.

as i said, i have got no reason to lie to you, i will tell you what it does and leave you to decide.


I have no idea what you said here…







Only once around 98% of the population has accepted the chip, the parents can choose to get the chip installed in their child at a young age.

It would be easier for the growing child to get used to it, and to work out what needs to be changed. The chip needs to move with the times, just as everything else does.


No it doesn’t, we wouldn’t need this chip at all if some people didn’t cause trouble for their own selfish reasons. Now all they want is all the money and control...






huh?

What would that do beyond losing them customers?



You make no sense here, apparently you don’t know who owns all the banks, in fact they can buy any bank if they wanted too… these people make bill gates look like a poor person, and they are not listed in the Forbes 500.







Such misplaced faith, its a dangerous idea.

You need to consider change. This is a change. What happens when something changes? You make the best of it.

The Chip, in my mind, can make the world a much more efficient and better place for the people, the government and all.

If you want to learn more, feel free to ask me.



This is the change that a group of men at the top want for their own greedy selves, that is not the kind of change that we as the people need. And no you are honestly not a fighter; I can see you going down in a battle because you’re too weak and simple minded to fight back. If change happens and you don’t like it then fight back. Did people in Bosnia make the best of it when the Serbs started their ethnic cleansing? No, freedom fighters fought for their families and their principles and did not “make the best of it”.

You still have no idea what this means do you…










Of course i dont miss it, ive heard this argument way too many times.

I just want to hurry up and become Imperator so this perfect world everyone talks about wanting will come to fruition


What perfect world, in case you haven’t been looking at current events everything is not perfect. We are on the verge of another war and it could be global in time.







Well you do, you’ve signed up to the internet to read and converse with friends haven’t you?



How come on GLP I can just post and not have to sign up, other places do send their information to the government. For instance back in 2004 I think Google agreed that its search results and all would be sent to government security centers; this has also happened with many other web sites and search engines…I wonder why







Yes, i know this all too well. My myspace account has been bombarded with abour 200 Conspiracy wankers trying to be my friend.

I dont recollect every giving anyone my myspace, here.



Wow, amazing isn’t it…lol, look at facebook…the fbi and cia have taken over it!






Did you mean Hoover?

Well, Hoover was attacking Communists, right?

This is besides your point, but where does it say that a communist cannot be a peaceful law abiding person?


It does say that anywhere…I now in my home country it was a socialist rule by Tito a friend of Stalin, you call this almost communism. I don’t recall anyone being evil, in fact it was the good old days. Also what about Islam, in today’s world we get the perception that and Islamic person is a terrorist…I am Islamic ( well my family, I chose not to be religious) am I terrorist…no of course not.







You may notice in my thread that i refered to my empire, my chip, etc.

My ideas only work once they have been accepted.



Or forced on to the people






Well it depends what they are protesting for and how. If it is people throwing glass bottles in the streets because they want to touch young girls or some other weak ass thing then they can go rot. But if it is a valid concern i dont see why it shouldnt be adressed.


Most of the people on the latest 9/11 protest were people like immortal technique and many political activists that now the truth…A certain fox news reporter insulted all of them and called them loons, after some time the police came and took some of them away, I saw all of this and it didn’t look like a riot with pitch forks and flames…they were just yelling in a public place about the truth of 9/11 and they got taken away by the cops…its unreal how ignorant the people are







Well a person who walks around with 4 rifles strapped to him saying "its my constitutional right" will need to be watched, i don't care what your constitution says.



Being that you are from Australia you don’t know our constitution…no matter if these things come to pass it will not matter because this will be global. And the constitution says that people have the right to bare arms, if someone came in my house and tried to kill me I would like to have a gun ins

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posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 01:48 PM
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BTW, I bought stock in this particular company last year and the value of the stock is currently half of what it was when I bought it. Charles Schwab I'm not.


Just take the damn chip people so I can recoup my money! *runs and hides*

Peace



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 01:52 PM
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instead of a RFID Chip. That is also one of the things that will be taken away…guns because they will now if you own one or not. In the revolution it was only about a small majority of the people that one the revolution against the British, basically farmers with hunting rifles. And you just explained the basic stereotype of most Americans that live in he south, I guess you wouldn’t mind if I said “alrighty mate, lets go kill a croc with a knife( no offense)”, maybe you need to be watched son…it seems like your going to step in line to be the first to sell your own people.







Why would the people in power need bad things to be done? I just dont get it sometimes. There is always a perfectly reasonable way to do things. Why do people in America always choose the destructive way!?



Really…wow you mean there is always a perfectly reasonable way to do things. Oh oh next time your in a dark ally and a person with a gun comes and puts it to your head for money…why don’t you ask him “sir , why don’t you just reason with me”. It’s the some concept just a different situation. And its not the people in America, its all over the world bub…if I recall Australia was an exile island and most of the people that committed crimes against the British were sent there…that is how that place came to be. And these people at the top were brainwashed from birth to be greedy, and in a cult. I admit that there are probably a few that want to get out of it, but it holds saying that they are really evil…in an interview with Aron Russo, he said Nicolas Rockefeller said to him “why do you care about the people, they are just surfs, go and take care of your family”, if you don’t remember history class surfs were social class in the medieval ages for peasant people. That is what these people on top think of us, just peasants.









Well i won’t say it isnt unjust, but how is it unlawful?


It is unlawful because these are the people that broke the laws to do this, its also unlawful because people will get their rights taken away with the implementation of this chip.











And besides, it is also the mark of the beast...


As soon as people mention this i get very annoyed and lose any respect for them.



How do you have any respect for someone you just met on a form site? It’s the truth deal with it, why would they change their name to xmark…could it be any more in front of your face



All in all you seem like the kind of person that would kneel down to the people in charge, maybe even assume the position and let them go at it. Go get yourself some moral values for the human race and some strength for yourself. And go get that chip out of your cat and show it some love




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posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 02:01 PM
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Rev. 13:15-17
5He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 02:37 PM
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Like I said, this is what the one world dictator will use. He will will do it under the precipice of "protecting people." All of the abductions, et cetera, that have been happening will be used as an excuse for this little "jewel" we call Verichip, A.K.A
"DigitalAngel."



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 06:54 PM
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I started to respond, but your arguements seem to attempt to respond with out addressing the points I made. I assume you were just joking.



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
are you talking about me?

Well you have to laugh dont you? If you dont the world weighs on you.

And a person that doesnt laugh is fairly boring.

Anyway, im surprised at the amount of things people take seriously on this site, but hey, we cant have everything we want?


(yet)


oh yea because finding the truth in all these lies isn't serous. Dude i think you came to the wrong site, when your dealing with 9/11 and othe conspiracy topics people tend to take them seriously.

but im not tr yen to be an overkill, there are funny times, like last time i posted and spilled my drink on the keyboard...i was mad



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 09:27 PM
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Are you saying that because I am alive I will get cancer…no living does not cause cancer, get your facts straight! A person can live a normal live and get no trace of cancer, it is only when certain circumstances come in like bad food, genetic disorder…microchip under the skin giving way to excessive growth of the cells around it, it is when these factors are in place that cancer develops. Go read a book on cancer buddy…


Or i could just ask my mother who has cancer.

jesus christ, its hard to lighten the mood here.





I have do admit there are some great factors contributing to the chip ( if you were a blind kid that gets lost all the time), but I would much rather prefer a chip places in a watch or something so I can put it on and take it off when I want to


And lose it, or it gets stolen, etc, etc.


…and also not have my money


Ah so here is what it is really all about.

Whats the difference between this and your bank card?

What if your bank suddenly immolated? *poof* gone, no more money for you.

Dealing in what if's means you have to look to likelys.


You don’t get it do you, these chips, they will have your money on them…so you wont have a credit card, and that means no private funds for yourself…it will be out to the open for what ever person is in charge of the chip, they will have all your money. All your information will be on that chip, every felony, crime, you will be tracked, how would you like it if someone was watching you at all times knowing were you are…I wouldn’t


Of course i get it, i have been considering the applications of a chipped society for months now.

Why cant your chip have a credit card with it?

So wait, you think people should be able to hide their past crimes? I'd say only after a substantial amount of time.

Im sure if someone was watching where i went 24/7 they would get quite bored very quickly.




Are you saying you can talk to your cats, do they actually have any awareness to know that they have a tracking system implemented in them.


Well they are quite nice, knocking on the door when they come in. They are almost human except the only word they know it Meow and they cant spell it.


I doubt that they really like the fact that they have a metal object under their skin


uhh...they dont notice it, you know. Putting a chip in is about 20 seconds of pain for the cat, then its gone and i can ensure that if the cat is ever lost someone can get it back to me.


and I doubt that they like that their chances of getting cancerous tumors have increased.


Increased by how much? Im good friends with my vet and she says she has never seen anything like this and she has been a veterinarian for around 20-30 years.


Don’t put your own opinions on other people including animals…lol, and you still have them, well maybe if you took care of them and loved them they wouldn’t run away and you wouldn’t need the chip.



This is an insult. I have never not had a cat and i own 3 of them right now. If you knew anything....about cats at least. You should know that if they get hurt they like to hide for days at a time. Like if they get hit by a car.




I have no idea what you said here…


Then ill let you reread what i said till you get it



No it doesn’t, we wouldn’t need this chip at all if some people didn’t cause trouble for their own selfish reasons. Now all they want is all the money and control...


I dont want money and control, yet i still think that when i become Imperator the chip will be used for the betterment of all mankind.




You make no sense here, apparently you don’t know who owns all the banks, in fact they can buy any bank if they wanted too… these people make bill gates look like a poor person, and they are not listed in the Forbes 500.


Wheres your proof?




This is the change that a group of men at the top want for their own greedy selves, that is not the kind of change that we as the people need.


proof?



And no you are honestly not a fighter; I can see you going down in a battle because you’re too weak and simple minded to fight back.


What little respect i had because you were intelligent enough to spell at least a small amount correctly just evaporated.

I do 2 martial arts and have come second in weapons in all of Australia. I have been stabbed, threatened and attacked. I wont make such generalisations against you because i dont know you. But from what i can tell you may have big ideas (ones which can be supported by any kind of evidence, no matter how small) but your just a small man.


If change happens and you don’t like it then fight back.


Ok then, once someone makes i change i dont like i will fight back.

Until then i will continue, i wont fight back till i or one of my friends or family, or someone i see on the street, suffers a blatent disregard of justice.




You still have no idea what this means do you…


I know that men like you come on the internet and bitch all day without citing evidence.

*sigh* sometimes i think my respect for humanity is misplaced.




How come on GLP I can just post and not have to sign up, other places do send their information to the government. For instance back in 2004 I think Google agreed that its search results and all would be sent to government security centers; this has also happened with many other web sites and search engines…I wonder why


Surveys? To see how popular culture has become? To catch pedophiles? Its not that hard to think, please try it.

Well why is it that ive signed up to all these websites and not one peep from the government, i sign up to ATS and my Myspace gets hacked and now i have 45 conspiracy pricks wanting to be my friend, while all i want to do with them is tear out their jugular?




Wow, amazing isn’t it…lol, look at facebook…the fbi and cia have taken over it!



really? i didnt notice.

*yawn* must have been a nice takeover.



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 09:31 PM
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Eventually most, if not all people living in suburban or urban areas will be fitted with these chips... if not more complex devices.

It's going to happen, unless something huge changes on par with global catastrophe. That's the only thing that will stop it. Resist all you want, they already control everything you see on the media, or hear on the radio. They'd infiltrate your rebellion and crush you before you had a chance.

There is no solution. Death will come, and it will be your only escape (unless you somehow survive the "Global catastrophe" and then it'd be a good thing!).



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 09:46 PM
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It does say that anywhere…I now in my home country it was a socialist rule by Tito a friend of Stalin, you call this almost communism. I don’t recall anyone being evil, in fact it was the good old days. Also what about Islam, in today’s world we get the perception that and Islamic person is a terrorist…I am Islamic ( well my family, I chose not to be religious) am I terrorist…no of course not..


Hmmm i have a mosque about 20 minutes away, quite close to stadium Australia. i think the local shop guys are Islam.

Religion is for whoever, i dont care. Its all the same.




Or forced on to the people



I wouldnt force anything onto the people. They are smarter than that (at least i thought so until i came onto this site, "is Tiger woods and alien?" cmon!)

But i would explain what the chip does, how it works and what steps we have taken to avoid any one person or orginisation taking control of it.



Most of the people on the latest 9/11 protest were people like immortal technique and many political activists that now the truth


That suspect the truth, you mean.

That video, Chump change or whatever it was called, was the biggest pile of offensive tosh ive ever seen.


they were just yelling in a public place about the truth of 9/11 and they got taken away by the cops…its unreal how ignorant the people are


I know, yelling at the top of your lungs is disturbing the peace isnt it? Also, reminding people of such a sensitive topid is stupid in the extreme.

Good, the bastards got taken away.




Being that you are from Australia you don’t know our constitution


Being from Australia, i have intelligence. I can SEE your constitution, i deal with it whenever im on this site, savvy?


And the constitution says that people have the right to bare arms, if someone came in my house and tried to kill me I would like to have a gun ins


And so would they, so doesnt it just become pointless?



BTW, I bought stock in this particular company last year and the value of the stock is currently half of what it was when I bought it. Charles Schwab I'm not.

Just take the damn chip people so I can recoup my money! *runs and hides*


FINALLY! Someone who doesnt take everything so seriously! I applaud you!


I guess you wouldn’t mind if I said “alrighty mate, lets go kill a croc with a knife( no offense)


Saying no offense means nothing. If you killed a croc i would kill you. They are worth protecting.


maybe you need to be watched son…it seems like your going to step in line to be the first to sell your own people.


that is the second time you have offended my honour. Can you not actually have an arguement?


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Really…wow you mean there is always a perfectly reasonable way to do things


there is, people just pick the wrong way because they are stupid.


Oh oh next time your in a dark ally and a person with a gun comes and puts it to your head for money…why don’t you ask him “sir , why don’t you just reason with me”.


Well last time someone tried that i broke their arm and shattered their kneecap. Bah, guns such a useless weapon.


And its not the people in America, its all over the world bub…if I recall Australia was an exile island and most of the people that committed crimes against the British were sent there…that is how that place came to be.


yes, congratulations. You know the history of another history, im proud of you [/sarcasm]

Australia gained its independance from Britain through words. We didnt have a revolution.


in an interview with Aron Russo, he said Nicolas Rockefeller said to him “why do you care about the people, they are just surfs, go and take care of your family”, if you don’t remember history class surfs were social class in the medieval ages for peasant people. That is what these people on top think of us, just peasants.


If i dont know history? Guess what occupation i have.




It is unlawful because these are the people that broke the laws to do this, its also unlawful because people will get their rights taken away with the implementation of this chip.


Oh yes, the rights given to you by the constitution.

gah, that thing has created so many problems. The US government wouldnt need to try and control you if you didnt have it.

In Australia we dont have freedom of speech, doesnt matter though, we still get people like the Chaser infiltrating APEC





How do you have any respect for someone you just met on a form site? It’s the truth deal with it, why would they change their name to xmark…could it be any more in front of your face


Forum*

And i respect anyone and everyone until they lose it.

Its not the truth, its your opinion, deal with that, chump.

Why would they change their name? Why not? What do you expect me to do?

Xmark?! Oh my god, Mark of the beast, X is with generation X!

Generation X are satanic nazi terrorist reptilian scum who want to eat my babies and sniff the American constitution!!!

Happy now? Im just as insane as all the others on this site.




All in all you seem like the kind of person that would kneel down to the people in charge, maybe even assume the position and let them go at it. Go get yourself some moral values for the human race and some strength for yourself. And go get that chip out of your cat and show it some love


you seem to me to be the kind of person who deserves a small apartment 6 feet under.

I have strength, more than you could imagine. I want the human race to succeed, to evolve beyond attacking people baselessly.

I will not, i love my cat, so i treat it well, all 3 of them in fact. Because of this they will keep the microchip, i never want to lose them.



5He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.


Hmmm, wait a minute.

Im not going to tell people to worship my image! Im going to tell them not too (it will be hard for them to resist though, granted)



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 09:55 PM
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Hey man sorry i got on your case, i guess i am just really against these kinds of things and i just don't no when to stop..i have allot on my mind.

Sry about your mother, if it helps check out this yahoo group
health.groups.yahoo.com...
it has helped me with major health problems in the past...and just take my word on it ok

Although we may not agree on certain aspects of this topic, i still don't feel its right that i insulted you...Great to see someone else with interests in martial arts.

This stuff is great for animals, i will have to contradict my statments. now that i think about it it is great for animals, but i feel that it should be left at that, just animals not people.

Again i read over my post, and i realized i am the %&@&head...lol



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 10:11 PM
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Hey man sorry i got on your case, i guess i am just really against these kinds of things and i just don't no when to stop..i have allot on my mind.

Sry about your mother, if it helps check out this yahoo group
health.groups.yahoo.com...
it has helped me with major health problems in the past...and just take my word on it ok


Nah, she picked up Thyroid Cancer from the nuclear material of the Chernobyl Reactor explosion. Once in Oz they removed her Thyroid and she needs to take a couple of pills a day, nothing big.

And its all free! I love my socialist medicine.



Although we may not agree on certain aspects of this topic, i still don't feel its right that i insulted you...Great to see someone else with interests in martial arts.


then you are better than many who i have discussed with on this site.

I have misjudged you obviously, im very sorry for it.



This stuff is great for animals, i will have to contradict my statments. now that i think about it it is great for animals, but i feel that it should be left at that, just animals not people.


hmmm, i still disagree. But in America right now, the chip is wrong. Only because your government is wrong. I have many other greivances with America, but i will leave it for now.



Again i read over my post, and i realized i am the %&@&head...lo


No matter, everyone has their moments.



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 10:58 PM
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would you allow yourself to be chipped by Sadam, Stalin or Hitler. If that didn't work, how about Jane Fonda, or Cher, so everytime you do not support far left peace movement they can add a mark to your reliability score and say you are to outspoken to hold a job.

It is about who holds the information and how they use it. Is power usually good? I think history answers that question.



posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 02:16 AM
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they have eyes but don't see



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by sollie
they have eyes but don't see


That's about 98% of the population...



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by scientist
rfid will be demanded, not mandatory.

Heres how it will work:

first, the old and sick will get chips, as part of hospital programs.

then, prisoners will get chipped, specifically child molesters. (ok, this will be mandatory)

Then, children will start getting chipped by request of parents.

Finally, common people without a real "need" to be chipped will get chipped because there will be tax breaks and discounts at walmart because of it. Sort of like a national preferred member discount card. The prices are jacked up 200% everywhere, and you can get it back down to normal price with the "verichip discount." Same for taxes on gas, cigs, food, perhaps even income tax and social security. Insurance will be less for those with chips, and etc. etc.

This will be a pretty easy way to really force people to "volunteer" to be chipped, as to keep their lives from getting harder.



And that my friend is when you will see true anarchy.
You cannot withhold anything without rebellions.



posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 04:14 AM
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NBC is a whore for evil anyway and I never watch tv. Then again tv is a whore for evil.

Varichip will learn from all of this mass marketing. In fact I would think verichip is merely a cover corporation being utilized to usher in the plan that was hatched by the socialist losers in government the last 30 years id imagine. So intelligent they are, yet they create things that bring humanity into another feudal age of mindless happy subjects and there whore mongering kings, and stupid offspring that propagate the lie of heirarchical bliss. I view all who think this way as non existant and ignore them. If they ruin my country, well..I wouldnt want to be that person who does. Its 99:1 elitists, you want it soo bad dont you?? emotes-[gently pats elitist]

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