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Originally posted by Redge777
I have heard the dinousaur arc argument before, there is even a Creation Museum that has exibits, I went to get those vids first but they are no longer up.
The argument is this. Everything the Bible says is true, Bible says all animals were on ark, Bible says world is only 6000 years old, dinosaurs existed.
These people then have to fit a construct that allows them to keep all the above true. Their best fit is baby dinousaurs on the ark. Who knows maybe they are right it would only require for most of the sciences to be lies to discredit the Bible.
Chose which source you believe, instead of look at evidence learn the topics and make a critical decision.
I did think the dinousaur video was cool, big mama dino outside as baby dinousaur cries for her from her cage inside. The footstep sound effects were cool
Originally posted by LDragonFire
I beg to defer, you have sinned, and you will continue to sin, it is your very nature to do so. Whether you believe and have faith or not, to believe otherwise, means you have some sort of God complex, I'm not accusing you of this.
I merely state that from reading your posts and with the name you choose for yourself that I see much pride in you. Being Saved or even Born Again does not put you above your undeniable humanity.
Again All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.
I do want you to know one thing though, I envy you.
Example, I believe the pre-tribulation rapture is a lie.
I believe the young Earth Theory is a lie.
I have a 14 and 13 year old, both boys, and a 10 year old girl. According to some beliefs humans are born into sin, that it is human nature to sin. They lie. And so do you. You may never admit it, but if there is a God then he knows whats in your heart. He knows how you feel about me and others like me.....
Originally posted by Redge777
I find what you consider lying is self delusion, and I am a follower of Jesus Christ. Non Christians do this same thing.
People attach a belief, a bias if you will, then find things to support it, this the backwards way to do things.
Here are some funny examples
Sir in the video please explain to me the coconut and the artichoke, I love artichokes but man are they a pain.
and ofcoarse dinosaurs on Noahs ark
[edit on 21-9-2007 by Redge777]
The radical Christian right has no religious legitimacy. It is a mass political movement. It is interchangeable, in many ways, with other traditional political movements ranging from fascism to communism to the ethnic nationalist parties in the former Yugoslavia. It shares with these movements an inability to cope with ambiguity, doubt and uncertainty. It also embraces a world of miracles and signs and makes war on rational, reality-based thought. It condemns self-criticism and debate as apostasy. It places a premium on action. It dismisses those who do not bow down before its god -- and the leaders who claim to speak for God -- as heretics and traitors.
When leaders of this movement, such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, sanction, as they do, pre-emptive nuclear strikes against our enemies, and therefore the enemies of God, they fuel the passions of terrorists in love with the same apocalyptic nightmares. They march us to our own doom cheered by the delusion that once the dogs of war, even nuclear war, are unleashed, hundreds of millions will die, but because Christians have been blessed and chosen by God they alone will arise in triumph from the ash heap.
For most religious theists, their religion and their god provide the basis for their entire understanding of morality and moral values. They thus find it inconceivable that atheists who don’t believe in any gods and who have no religion could possibly have a basis for morality or even understand what true moral behavior is. Many go further and argue that this is a good reason to reject atheism, saying that it leads to immoral behavior, that it cannot account for the existence of morality, etc.
Religious theists' arguments against atheists' ability to be moral are frequently condescending and bigoted, but this myth about atheists' morality is not only all of that, but adds in unmitigated arrogance as well. Evidently, atheists are not able to be moral on their own, but theists are; thus we only see so-called "moral" behavior from atheists because religious theists - Christians, to be specific - force atheists to behave according to their religious standards. That's not morality, right?
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
Nice finds LDF.
OK, believers, riddle me this: do chimpanzees and other apes have souls? Are they followers of Jesus? no?
Then why do they have morality also?
Morality is biologically based. Religion just took credit for it so it would have a reason to continue to exist.
I'm an atheist and I have ethics that my Catholic ex-husband would never dream of. As far as he's concerned, he can do as he pleases because all he has to do is ask for forgiveness and *poof* sin be gone.
Kenya: Hands off the Turkana Boy!
Creationists are trying to hide the world’s most important collection of evidence for the evolution of man. The National Museum of Kenya owns a treasure of hominid fossils, documenting the development of our early ancestors. While the Museum is currently under renovation, powerful Evangelical church leaders try to press the authorities to swiftly “change the focus” of its exhibitions when reopening on 7 June 2007 and dump the pillars of our knowledge about the origin of Homo sapiens in the back rooms.
Originally posted by Redge777
You can read the same things I read an interpret them as you chose, as will I. I think if someone asks a Christian why do Christians lie, wouldn't you expect them to explain it with the teachings of Christ? It makes sense to me.