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Originally posted by DaleGribble
ok i took some more time to investigate another one or your points. i cant argue the expanding universe. you got me there.
this didnt take as long as i first thought. one again words like "assumptions" on the big bang.
Originally posted by zerotime
Originally posted by goose
Originally posted by zerotime
Atheists shout that religion is controlling the masses while acting like they know everything about everything.
No of course you never said that all atheists act the same way or believe the same thing.
Again, you are taking things out of context. My original statements were:
The worst atheists I have met have been 100 times worse than the worse Christian I have met. Atheists shout that religion is controlling the masses while acting like they know everything about everything. The saddest part to me is that in order to keep up the hardline appearance of atheism they cannot even ask themselves the basic human philosophical question, "what if?"
Looking at it now I should have used THEY instead of the word ATHEISTS at the beginning of the sentence you quoted because that whole paragraph is describing the extreme atheists that I have met. It was 4AM in the morning when I wrote it but it seems obvious to me so either you are misreading what I said on accident or on purpose. Either way, I guess you are out of points to discuss huh?
[edit on 17-9-2007 by zerotime]
Originally posted by goose
LOL Hardly, when you write that every atheist you know is a certain way and that they are 100 times worse than the worst christian you know it clearly leads the reader to interpret that you don't think too highly of atheists, and though you say that you are basing your writings only on the ones you have met, you definitely do no leave your reader thinking you expect to meet any in the future different than the ones you have already met.
Originally posted by zerotime
I don't understand why you have trouble reading what I wrote but where in the world did I say that EVERY Athiest that I know acts a certain way? For the last time and I'm not discussing it anymore I said the WORST Atheists. I have already said that I know atheists who are laid back and do not care about any of this. I also know many people who claim to be atheists but are actually more agnostic.
This thread was started by talking about the worst Christians, which I believe is true. But as these threads tend to go on ATS, instead of labeling this group bad and separating it from the rest of the normal Christians walking around the posters seem to have an agenda of hating and lumping all Christians together. By that model the worst ATS posters would how ATS is rated. If someone says, hey I am a Christian and then goes and robs a bank that doesn't mean that all Christians are bank robbers right? No, because that would be stupid.
So, since we are talking about the worst of the worst here, I pointed out that the worst atheists that have met are much more ridiculous to deal with than the worst Christians that I have met AND I have met some really bad Christians.
Originally posted by zerotime
The worst atheists I have met have been 100 times worse than the worse Christian I have met. Atheists shout that religion is controlling the masses while acting like they know everything about everything.
Originally posted by zerotime
Geez, I must have hit a nerve with the atheists. First off, you guys keep saying Christians do this, Christians do that, Christians say this...Which Denominations of Christians are you talking about and where you are getting your numbers and statistics?
Originally posted by zerotime
That certainly doesn't mean that all 2 billion Christians act or believe the same way.
Originally posted by zerotime
All rational Christians question their faith as do members of other religions. If you look at the most recent revelations of Mother Teresa, maybe the most piest Christian of our times, she questioned her faith for 50 years.
Originally posted by zerotime
I never lumped any Atheists together.
Originally posted by zerotime
Atheists shout that religion is controlling the masses while acting like they know everything about everything.
Originally posted by zerotime
Looking at it now I should have used THEY instead of the word ATHEISTS at the beginning of the sentence you quoted because that whole paragraph is describing the extreme atheists that I have met.
Originally posted by zerotime
It was 4AM in the morning when I wrote it but it seems obvious to me so either you are misreading what I said on accident or on purpose. Either way, I guess you are out of points to discuss huh?
Originally posted by zerotime
...where in the world did I say that EVERY Athiest that I know acts a certain way?
Atheists shout that religion is controlling the masses while acting like they know everything about everything.
Originally posted by Iasion
You are a hypocrite.
Now, you lie to avoid admitting it.
A perfect example of the lieing for Jesus as described in the OP.
Iasion
Originally posted by Iasion
In fact Mother Teresa was an evil witch who LIKED people to suffer because she thought it was good for their souls - that is what SHE said, and that is what her actions show :
She MADE her inmates suffer :
* she refused them ANY visitors from friends and family
* she refused them pain-killers - people DIEING in agony.
* she refised them new hypodermic needles - her staff had to sharpen OLD needles
* she refused them facilities such as elevators
* she made them eat left-over food begged from local shops
* she sent all the donations to Rome - spent little on her in-mates
She lied and cheated :
* she took money from dictator Papa Doc whole stole it from his poor people - those who Teresa was meant to be helping
* she took stolen money from Keating the thief
* she had her staff SECRETLY baptise non-Christians as Christians without their consent just before they died
But,
when SHE needed treatment, she went to the most expensive clinic in Switzerland, while her inmates suffered with care from the Dark Ages.
Many of her nuns left in horror and have exposed her evil.
Of course apologists like zerotime won't even know of all this and will reject it out of hand.
I encourage readers to check the facts about Mother Teresa - she was an evil cheating witch who CAUSED suffering.
Iasion
Originally posted by zerotime
It was already explained. I didn't lie about it. Too bad you don't believe me. I don't care. It was nice of you to believe I am a Christian though. I don't remember saying that I was but hey, I'm sure you'll try to make that up too.
Originally posted by AncientVoid
Then tell me where are Christians lumped together like you said before and i would respond the same way you did. "You read it wrong"...