So your belief is that some ancient civilization built the pyramids and then vanished without leaving a trace?
Uhm... where did they come from and how is it possible that we haven't found any traces of their history? Are you trying to say that they suddenly
woke up one day and decided to invent Ipods and computers and advanced Internets? All civilizations leave an imprint (mining, farming, roads, cities,
etc) and we've never seen one that went from walking around naked and bashing tapiers over the head with rocks to the space age and beyond in a few
...that'd be a pretty startling population growth, too.
What's your explaination?
SC: "Their value"? Who are you talking about here? I am not talking here about the AEs because it is quite clear that they did not express
decimal fractions (i.e. the Pi constant) in the manner expressed by the satellite pyramids i.e. 3-1-4. Whoever created this 'Pi beacon' was
certainly not AE.
Again, we run into the problem: if this was some sort of mystical number, then why isn't it repeated elsewhere? If you're saying the whole Giza
complex was created to emulate Orion and pi, then how do you explain
* the necropolois with workers who have titles and associations with pyramid building
* the tombs of officials of the three courts
* the lack of records mentioning the pyramids as previously existing structures
* the names of the structures
* the receipts for stone, the depictions of workers and oxen moving the stone and so forth
* the temples dedicated to the three rulers
* the mummies inside the structures
* the lack of other 3-1-4 references (you said it was "passed on" to the AE's... I'm curious as to what evidence you base this on.)
I have sevral good astronomy programmes and they all show this.
Just checking, because the proportions weren't exact and it seemed you were implying that they'd be exact.
Byrd: I've missed something: "Concavities"?
SC: It's explained in my presentation.
...which didn't load for me. Would you mind explaining it again for all of us? I know others would be interested.
SC: Sorry - clutching at straws and quite ridiculous. My theory explains simply and logically why there can be no so-called 'Queens
Pyramids' at Khafre's 'tomb'.
Other than "it fits my theory" do you have any other things you point to as your evidence?
I believe Imhotep was the driving force and began the process of implementing the plan.
You'd have to explain, then, why his first pyramids were such a mess if he'd been given explicit instructions?
And this plan was to build Giza. Imhotep knew this would take many many generations to complete and that much experimentation would first have
to occur before the sacred plan could be attempted. Thus you see the evolution of the pyramid from simple mastaba, step to true pyramid. Sometimes
they got the angles wrong (Bent Pyramid) and structures collapsed.
I think I must be missing something here. You're saying that Imhotep had some sort of plan that included the layout of Giza and the instructions
that he had to build pyramids? I thought you were saying that the pyramids were built by a civilization that came before the AE's.
Could you make your timeline a bit clearer? My brain's running on less sleep than usual and I feel I'm missing something here.
It was a learning curve they had to go through. And so when they achieved the first true pyramid it was then time to implement building of the
sacred plan at Giza. After this goal had been achieved the desire to build pyramids gradually diminished as did the quality of the constructions.
Giza, however, had to be perfect - and it was.
Uhm... with the unfinished King's chamber? And the mismatched and inconsistant dimensions (l/w/h for each pyramid)?
Byrd: Do you have a source other than Aldred
SC: No but he's reliable I'm sure.
I'm not doubting Aldred, but what I'm asking is critical -- where'd he get his translation? If he's using Budge, then the translation would be
defective. I'd like to eyeball the source for Imhotep's name ... the date of the temple is so long after Imhotep that the record needs to be
examined. By that time (if his name was preserved) he was more of a myth than a real person, and (like Alexander or George Washington or many other
historical notables) the report may be Greatly Exaggerated.
So... curious minds would like to know.
edited, because I'm tired and this didn't make any sense the first time around
Byrd: What writings indicate that Egypt believed Earth would have a birth and rebirth as a result of a cataclysm?
SC: The AEs most likely knew little of or had entirely forgotten the original purpose of the plan given them although they did somehow remember that
the sacred plan - the pyramids - had something to do with rebirth, a concept the Pharaoh bestowed upon his own soul. It became a big part of AE
religion but not for the orginal reason.
Then why is the pharoah associated with the "undying stars"
(circumpolar stars) rather than with Orion? And why is the notion of an eternal afterlife (they didn't have any belief in a rebirth) far older than
Djoser and the first pyramids -- but is not associated with the pyramids? Why aren't pyramids included in scenes of the afterlife?
Byrd: Besides, it's backwards from the way Orion is...
SC: I don't follow - how so?
Go outside and look at Orion. The arrangement of Giza is not the same as the layout of the stars in Orion's belt (diagonally left to right versus
diagonally right to left... they're mapped backwards.) Why leave someone a backwards plan to follow? Orion only looks like Orion from the vantage
point of the Earth.
[edit on 19-9-2007 by Byrd]