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Weird Presidential Address

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posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:08 AM
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Only part I saw is where he said something along the lines of "When we do better in Iraq, more troops will come home". In other words:

"They're not doing what I want. Don't expect them home as fast as you wish. Deal with it"

A smack in the face to anyone who is over there and anyone with family or friends over there.




posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by badw0lf
Strange, the quoted text has mysteriously changed from when I hit reply...


I guess I can't say what I was going to say about fools and what they believe, then..



Well, I wrote it when being a bit upset, but once I calmed down a minute later I realized there is no need to call people fools. Its not like I can be sure that I would react any differently myself in the same situation.

But you were quick to catch me there...



Originally posted by badw0lf
Whether *WE* agree with them or not, is not the issue. I stand by each and every brave person who has been sent to fight over there, doing their duty. I do not have to agree with the reasons why they were sent to fight, but I will not condemn them for the job they do.


I would be happy if I could snap my fingers and suddenly nobody would be allowed to go to war anymore. Everybody would be FORCED to solve their problems diplomatically.

But I cant do that, so I whine and ponder over the stupidity of mankind...



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:16 AM
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His face read: I failed, this was a big failure.

The message was: we will not tell you what we will do to fix things, and it wasn't our fault.

Failure and a complete mess.

Someone stoked this guy up in the beginning; "Mr. Pres. this could be your legacy, a great accomplishment, bring democracy to the middle east."

And he seemed to have a "Christ complex"

Then they all bailed on him. Having them leave the way they did was symbolic on their part. It said, it's over, we failed. Now lets get back to our mansions and yachts.

He looked so scared and vulnerable. I'm not a fan of either of them, but Gore really should have been in charge during this whole thing, he might not have been so stupid.


[edit on 14-9-2007 by Electro38]



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:17 AM
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Sorry Geemony I just don't want to believe this is all. But I just saw a AF news link and it does mention the stand down.

Like it or not our US skies are empty. I take it this is all of the AF bases are ordered to stand down.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:23 AM
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Hopefully that missing nuke doesn't show up today as they say "in the form of a mushroom cloud"





EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Defense Secretary Bob Gates is schedule to be on Fox news this Sunday........


[edit on 14-9-2007 by CanadianVandal]



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by nightmare_david
Only part I saw is where he said something along the lines of "When we do better in Iraq, more troops will come home". In other words:

"They're not doing what I want. Don't expect them home as fast as you wish. Deal with it"

A smack in the face to anyone who is over there and anyone with family or friends over there.


Now just a darn minute.That was out of line- So thats a smack to my face as well since I have two brothers that served in the military and one just came from Iraq last year. So insult the military because Bush ordered them to go? Do you think they enjoy leaving their families? And over 3,000+ Men and women came home in a box.

I'm not gonna listen to your mindless accusations of the US military because you have no clue on what your talking about, your just spouting off.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:26 AM
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Just watched the video of the speech. Unless I missed something obvious, I did not notice any significant eye-twitching. And no significant word fumbling either.

He does look thinner and more beat down; but a lot of presidents do near the end of their terms.

I guess the only thing I really noticed was the overall tone of the speech was 'down'. I expected him to try to make it upbeat and positive. I really didn't see a need for this address in the first place.

Not sure what everyone else is seeing and hearing...but maybe I am just blind to these things today.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:34 AM
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We've been hearing over the years that the Iraqi troops we're training are not ready. If they haven't gotten "ready" by now does anyone really think they will ever be ready?

They're not interested in doing what America wants them to do. Why does the Bush admin have to come out and say that every year? Don't they think we know they're not at all interested in rising up and making a stand.

They didn't need to be "free". It would have been much, much better if Sadam Hussein was still there. (Why did they have to kill that guy? They could have just put him back in power and apologized).

It seems like all we did was hand Iraq over to Iran and Syria. This had to be the dumbest thing to ever have happened in the History of the world.

[edit on 14-9-2007 by Electro38]



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:39 AM
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Gore in charge? No way, no how, you may not be happy and fully supportive of where we are at, but there is no way you can make this statement and feel comfortable that you are correct.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by spyder207
reply to post by Electro38
 


Gore in charge? No way, no how, you may not be happy and fully supportive of where we are at, but there is no way you can make this statement and feel comfortable that you are correct.


Read my post. I'm not a fan of either Bush or Gore, but because the dems are such PC weeners Gore probably would never have gone into Iraq, Hussein would still be in charge and the backward Iraqi people would be content.

I love how the Bush admin tried to make people in America think we had to invade Iraq because of 9-11. They made Iraq into a terrorist country.

Thousands of our troop's lives would have been spared. They could have concentrated on protecting us from terrorism.

Now where are we? Our great soldiers are losing their lives because the Bush admin wants to shove freedom down their throats. They will never understand the concept of freedom, so they'll never fight for it.

In a couple of years Iraq will become part of Iran and Syria.
(The pres. looked so "down" because he knows Iran will be taking control of Iraq. But they have to make it seem like we won, and we achieved our objectives. IT's all spin now, the pres. is defeated and broken.)

[edit on 14-9-2007 by Electro38]

[edit on 14-9-2007 by Electro38]



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:09 AM
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I think

"Good evening, in the life of all free nations, there come moments that decide the direction of a country, and reveal the character of its people. We are now at such a moment."

said it all. The Introduction has NOTHING in common with the current IRAQ situation and the rest of its speech. For me it sounds like a code message to the black ops carring out the nuclear attack on american soil.

On 9/15 is a big parade planned in NYC with many people and tourists. The NWO plan says that the apocalyse will force many nations to follow one Leader. Why not harming many foreign people with a nuclear strike on NYC?

9/11 was a testrun. See how shocked and traumarized the people of NYC, USA and the rest of the world were. We know, about 3k+ people died but the backslash, the mourn, cries around the world were loud and hard. Imagine what would happend if a nuclearbomb turn NYC into a parking lot?

Estimated 150k dead people instantly. Wallstreet destroyed (NWO plan to gain power, bankrupt a country and produce fear). Imagine THAT on the worldmarket. The USD isnt weak currently without a reason. The Dollar was weakend over the last weeks so it will be destoryed in such a major attack.

Bush is a puppet behind Rothschilds. Thats why he look broken and weak. But he has no chance. Last Protus to tried to change things were JFK.


I fear that betwee 9/15 - 9/20 we will see a nuclear hit on american soil and from that moment on, the world as we know will stop to exist. Martial low will initiate within 24hrs, your american rights will be exstincted.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:14 AM
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I did notice the stock market a bit low earlier around 9-9:30 am it was Dow was -84, S&P -9 and NASDAQ -12 but now it seems to be recovering.

[edit on 9/14/2007 by Leyla]



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:18 AM
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Leyla, I think you may have misinterpreted that post. I think the poster was saying that it was George Bush who insulted the military and the families of those men and women who serve in Iraq. That's how I read it, at least. If I'm wrong and have missed something, pardon me.


[edit on 14-9-2007 by Areal51]



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:21 AM
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Where are you from?



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Electro38
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Where are you from?



german native, sorry I know my english sucks but at least I try


[edit on 14-9-2007 by mallory-john]



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:27 AM
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Disagree. It doesn't matter who the electoral college "votes" in as President, he still gets his orders from the same group. Party membership doesn't matter, the end result would be the same. The only thing that would have been different is we would have been bored by Gore during his speaches. GW has at least provided a few laughs along the way.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by CanadianVandal
Hopefully that missing nuke doesn't show up today as they say "in the form of a mushroom cloud"





EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Defense Secretary Bob Gates is schedule to be on Fox news this Sunday........


[edit on 14-9-2007 by CanadianVandal]




Is there a reason why you posted that video a 2nd time?



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:54 AM
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Pravda bashes Bush about Iraq

Glad to see someones media is working.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Areal51
reply to post by Leyla
 



Leyla, I think you may have misinterpreted that post. I think the poster was saying that it was George Bush who insulted the military and the families of those men and women who serve in Iraq. That's how I read it, at least. If I'm wrong and have missed something, pardon me.


[edit on 14-9-2007 by Areal51]


I thought about it afterwards but if he meant to say Thats a slap in the face to the military and their families. Then ok I'm sorry I over reacted.

Its all in the words.



posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Copernicus

Originally posted by badw0lf
Strange, the quoted text has mysteriously changed from when I hit reply...


I guess I can't say what I was going to say about fools and what they believe, then..



Well, I wrote it when being a bit upset, but once I calmed down a minute later I realized there is no need to call people fools. Its not like I can be sure that I would react any differently myself in the same situation.

But you were quick to catch me there...




I know, but I had thought up such a one liner I was going to say that it forced me to engage the rest of the post properly to allow me to do it.. and then - it was gone !!!
haha





Originally posted by badw0lf
Whether *WE* agree with them or not, is not the issue. I stand by each and every brave person who has been sent to fight over there, doing their duty. I do not have to agree with the reasons why they were sent to fight, but I will not condemn them for the job they do.


I would be happy if I could snap my fingers and suddenly nobody would be allowed to go to war anymore. Everybody would be FORCED to solve their problems diplomatically.

But I cant do that, so I whine and ponder over the stupidity of mankind...


That is an opinion I agree with mate.. well said..



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