Kathy Griffin tells Jesus to "Suck it!", page 4
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reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 12:51 PM by Icarus Rising
Ms. Griffin, as prior posts have suggested, is enjoying the attention generated by the fallout from her comments at the Emmy's. She is completely unapologetic and has had "the best week of her life." Below is an excerpt from her recent appearance on "Larry King Live."



Witness the pride and unabashed hubris oozing from her. That she would trade her opportunity for eternal life in Christ Jesus for fifteen minutes of fame and a shiny statue (idol) is just incomprehensible to me. I wonder what she has been through that would harden her heart so and lead her to utter, not to mention revel in, such blasphemy.


Matthew 12

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.




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reply posted on 21-9-2007 @ 07:40 PM by Icarus Rising
reply to post by Jovi1


I will try to clarify my answer for you.

Of the two choices you gave, I would have to go with b.

Your statement that the consequences of sin are not from God makes no sense to me. Ultimately, everything that happens is allowed to happen by God. He is the Creator of the Universe. He will use you whether you believe in Him or not.

Keep in mind that I am not God, and I have no desire to exalt myself above His throne. Simply put, God can do things that I can't.

When I say I won't forget what Ms. Griffin has done, I mean I don't trust her to have respect and consideration for my beliefs anymore. This is similar to the old "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me," saying.


Matthew 10

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.


I hope this has answered your question completely, though I suspect you will not be satisfied.


reply posted on 22-9-2007 @ 07:52 AM by Icarus Rising
reply to post by Jovi1


You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree. Forgiveness and trust are two different things. I am a servant to others, not their punching bag.

I do like your point about sin and the removal of the protecting hand of God.

Thanks for your input.


reply posted on 22-9-2007 @ 03:02 PM by Icarus Rising
Again, I am not God, nor am I trying to claim equality with His son. Christ was subject to all the same temptations as man, yet He never sinned. Why do you continue to fail to see this important distinction? I am flattered that you seek to compare me to God and Christ, but I will continue to fall short in that comparison while I struggle with the temptations of the flesh.


Romans 7

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.


The woman at the well was not married, though she'd had five husbands. As a man, I may not think "slut" to myself when she walked by, but I would certainly be wary of proposing marriage to her. Wouldn't you?

Being saved, I have the opportunity to become co-heir to the kingdom of heaven with Christ, but I have a long way to go. Justification, then glorification.


Matthew 22:14

For many are called, but few are chosen.
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reply posted on 22-9-2007 @ 03:48 PM by Icarus Rising
reply to post by Jovi1


With the adulterous woman, Christ was pointing out the hypocrisy of the crowd preparing to stone her. Under Mosaic Law, both she and the man she had committed the adultery with were supposed to be stoned.


It seems, perhaps, that Jesus Christ wasn't the only one who was "set up" that day. While they used the woman caught in adultery as the means to try to entrap Him through His answer, the woman herself may have been partly entrapped - the man that she was "taken in adultery, in the very act" with (by definition, if she was "caught in the act," the man had to have been caught too) was not brought to Him with her. Whoever he was, he was just as guilty and just as subject to "the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death" (Leviticus 20:10 KJV) that the scribes and Pharisees quoted in condemning the woman. Letting him go was more hypocrisy on the part of the themselves-adulterous scribes and Pharisees.
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Christ forgives the woman for her adultery.


John 8

11b And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go your way. From now on sin no more."


He does, however, admonish her to sin no more, for He has not yet forgiven any future sin.


Otherwise, the day is coming when she, if she didn't thereafter repent, won't be stoned, but will be burned - along with the hypocrites who brought her to Him that day, if they didn't thereafter repent of their sin.
same link as above


Thank you for helping me prove my point. Perhaps instead of saying I wouldn't forget what Ms. Griffin had said, I should have said I no longer trusted her. That is what I meant by saying I wouldn't forget. Ms. Griffin could begin to regain my trust by repenting and retracting her statement. Not that she will, and not that my trust has any meaning to her or is of any importance to her.


Psalm 1

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.


I'm working on it.
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