Let me be the first!

Suck it Mohammed!!!!!

If Griffen really wanted attention, that is what she should have said!

It's easy to pick on Christians...no death threats, no threatened beheadings, no riots in the streets. I'd say she picked a pretty soft target.

Just as everyone has a right to their own beliefs, everyone has a right to respond when said beliefs are disparaged in such a way. Free speech is both a right and a responsibility.

As I have said already in an earlier post, I now realize I allowed my chain to be yanked and offered an initial knee-jerk reaction to Griffin's statement.

I still think she should retract what she said and make amends.

Originally posted by Icarus Rising
I just hope you think it is this funny when someone insults your core beliefs and tells whatever you believe and place your hope for eternal life in to suck it.

I like to think I have transcended such a state of mind. Even with someone screaming in my face, spit flying all over calling me every name in the book - I have managed to keep my cool.

But on top of that, this is a comedian we are talking about! If you get that worked up over comedy, I would hate to see how you deal with an actual confrontation

p.s. if anything, as a good christian you could thank such a person for the opportunity to test, and therefore strengthen your faith. (this board needs a jesus-smiley)

[edit on 13-9-2007 by scientist]

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by Kacen


But, seriously, big whoop. Jesus is pretty overrated nowadays...

I seriously doubt that he is anymore over rated that Malcolm X or Martin Luther King, or any other modern day "hero" you can think of.

as a sidenote: nobody is as overrated as scarface.

How do you know how worked up I am?

Did you, in your transcendent state, even read my post above the last two you made?

Again, this isn't comedy to me. I don't think its funny, and I don't think you are funny, either.

FYI, I spent 15 years running night clubs and broke up countless altercations. Stopped more than that before they ever got started. I never hit anybody, and I never let anybody hit me. Ok? I've been spit on, bitten, called out, you name it. I didn't start any trouble, but I sure put an end to a lot of it.

Words on a page may convey emotion never intended by the one writing them. Apparently, that is the case here.

I wish you the best in whatever beliefs you care to ascribe to. The same goes for Kathy Griffin. I still think she should be boycotted until she retracts her statement and makes amends to those she has offended.

Originally posted by RRconservativeSuck it Mohammed!!!!!

Wow, seriously. I'm not too fond of ether Christianity or Islam, but to be honest, taking a swing at something that has nothing at all to do with this thread is really low.

Originally posted by scientistBut on top of that, this is a comedian we are talking about! If you get that worked up over comedy, I would hate to see how you deal with an actual confrontation

Wow, this was a comedian? I missed that whole part of it.

Makes the OP and others getting worked up over the comment even stupider.

Father God, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

May You open their eyes and ears as You have opened mine, and make believers out of them, too.

I ask this in the name of Your precious Son, Jesus Christ.

Amen.

Originally posted by Icarus Rising
Father God, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

May You open their eyes and ears as You have opened mine, and make believers out of them, too.

I ask this in the name of Your precious Son, Jesus Christ.

Amen.

Apathy cat is apathetic.

lol @ the cat.

probably the best rebuttal I've ever seen on the internet. Kudos. And even somewhat on topic as this thread IS about comedy...

I'm wondering why anyone would actually post a prayer like that online, unless it was some backhanded attempt at trolling, which I believe it was. I find that more offensive than anything a comedian has ever said, and I'm a huge fan of Doug Stanhope.

Originally posted by Icarus Rising
How do you know how worked up I am?

I have no idea, other than the fact you are clearly offended by a comedian. On a scale from 0-worked up, you seem worked up.


for example:

she should be boycotted until she retracts her statement and makes amends to those she has offended.

By using the word "should" in that statement, you establish yourself as some type of authority - and then justify it on being offended. If you are not worked up at all over it, then why bother to tell others how they should or shouldn't feel / react?

Besides, how are you going to boycott a comedian? It's not like they are wal-mart, lol.

[edit on 14-9-2007 by scientist]

IR, you may find Kathy Griffin offensive, but I happen to find people praying for me publicly offensive.

Please cease and desist. Thanks.

And there you have it. You claim rights that you seek to deny me. I will continue to pray for the salvation of all mankind, you included.

James 1

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

peace.

Originally posted by RRconservative
It's easy to pick on Christians...no death threats, no threatened beheadings, no riots in the streets. I'd say she picked a pretty soft target.

Indeed RR I agree with you 100%.

And I'm not to happy about some of the responses here either. Just say I'm dissapointed again in some. And this time I will say something instead of keeping it to myself.

Judging someone based on their beliefs is wrong even if you don't agree or believe them.

I say enough alright?

Originally posted by RRconservative
Let me be the first!

Suck it Mohammed!!!!!

If Griffen really wanted attention, that is what she should have said!

It's easy to pick on Christians...no death threats, no threatened beheadings, no riots in the streets. I'd say she picked a pretty soft target.

I'd say that is probably right. Although, Islam doesn't really enter into the equation here. However, if she had said such a thing in regards to Islam, yeah, she'd have to go into hiding. William Rushdie, anyone?

Look,since 9/11, I am not too keen on any of the Abrahamic religions, but, I can see that a cat is a cat.... Of course, most of you know my opinion about the whole "war on terrorism" thing; it's nothing more than a renewed crusade by the Muslims and Christians to try and regain a strangle hold on the world populace. I'll desist, though.

Originally posted by Icarus Rising
And there you have it. You claim rights that you seek to deny me. I will continue to pray for the salvation of all mankind, you included.

James 1

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

peace.

I'm just interested in what you thought this added to the discussion. It was made clear by more than myself that this public praying is both out of place, and offensive (trolling) yet you continue to post.

I suggest we start a boycott of Icarus Rising until s/he retracts his/her comments and apologizes!

You are trolling my thread, my dubious friend. I am well within the T&C's of this site, no matter what you may think.

I'm not looking for your approval or general popularity, I'm espousing the truth as I know it has been revealed to me.

Prayer and The Word are my tools, and I will continue to witness whenever and wherever the Spirit leads me.

Boycott away, and less power to you.

Here's the thing, especially Leyla, who I believe I have offended:

It seems to us non-believers that the rights of Christians are pushed above and beyond everyone else's rights.

Your right to freedom of religion stops where mine begins (mine being a freedom FROM religion).

If people can pray in public and demonstrate against things deemed "unchristian" and make posts saying they are boycotting someone for speaking out against their god, then those of us who don't believe in a god or gods have the right to speak out against it and complain when prayer is done in public.

Religion should be a private matter. Until it is kept private, the rest of us have the right to say what we like AGAINST the religion.

sorry if your feelings got hurt, Leyla. you know I respect you because you are one of the Christians that don't go around shoving your beliefs down everyone else's throat, and because you think for yourself and don't go along with the flock.

However, my rights to disbelieve (or Kathy Griffin's) and say whatever I like about that disbelief is just as valid as anyone else's right to believe.

If people don't want their beliefs discussed or even mocked, they shouldn't be bringing them to a discussion forum.

Anyway, I mock EVERYONE's god. In case nobody's noticed, I tend to mock Satanism in chat (13 members there for a black mass). If I knew more about Jainism, I'd mock the Jains. If I knew more about Hinduism, I'd mock the Hindus.

I mock, therefore I am.

But seriously, I find people praying publicly for me to "find my way" to their god to be utterly offensive in the way IR found what Kathy Griffin said to be utterly offensive. Christianity isn't the only belief system and I reject Yahweh and jesus as I reject Mohammad, Scientology and Mormonism.

the only thing I do accept is FSM. May you all be touched by His Noodly Appendage.

Can someone please tell Kathy Griffin and Sarah Silverman that they are not funny.

The only thing I reject is Kathy Griffin, that red headed twit.

Be glad and thankful your alive and able to breath the fresh air and see the beautiful sunshine......er rain. lol

Oh, no, we have sunshine. Hot, blazing, ozone-laden sunshine. Can you send some rain down here? My car needs a wash.