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Topic started on 12-9-2007 @ 07:03 PM by Rockpuck
At the brink of war...

We have seen in recent weeks a turn of events in the world away from the almost ordinary fear of war, the natural actions of international relations that keep us assured we have enemies everywhere, but are safe. Now, it would seem to have turned to a state where we sit at the brink of war..

I would say, in my personal opinion that the world has never set this close to oblivion since the weeks leading up to world war 2.. I say this because we have currently a set of alliances slowly being formed around the world, these alliances are paving the way to total war between both sides, and what sets this in stone is that there is only two sides facing off, with no middle parties.

We have reports of nuclear bombs being "accidentally" transfered, which of course is impossible..

Nukes heading to Iran
Stolen Nuclear Weapon during accidental transport of nukes.

Of course, this being out of the ordinary alone means absolutely nothing, correct?

Israel Spots Nuclear Institutions in SYRIA

In Syria Israel claims to have spotted a nuclear facility during fly overs ...

Israel May Have Bombed Syrian Targets

Which was hushed up by BOTH SIDES.. Syria said they shot AT a plane, but did not say WHY, and did not say what was bombed...... Israel said no comment.

But then..

SOURCE: Israel Bombed Unknown Syrian Targets

It was then confirmed Israel took military action, and admitted it had troops inside Syria at the time to direct the attack... Israel claims to have bombed supplies coming to Lebanon. Right. It was later revealed during the attack surveillance air craft spotted a NUCLEAR institution. Supplied by North Korea.. and a base, funded by IRAN.

Well, that, combined with our missing nuke, could be bad news.. but it goes much further back.

The west has almost suddenly about five years ago isolated its self from Russia, when Bush entered office we where at the very least, friends, or at least no longer enemies. Now we have..

Russia Detonates Largest Non Nuclear Weapon In History

Think thats nothing?

The United States detonated the then most powerful non nuclear weapon in history, the MOAB (Mother of All Bombs) RIGHT BEFORE the Iraq war, as a show of strength..

The new Russian bomb is FOUR TIMES more powerful.

Sept. 14th, Air Force to Stand Down

I tried to find another time this happened, and I cannot, so presumably the President for the first time in aviation history grounded all Air Force fighters and bombers.. for protocol reviews? ... More VERY unusual behavior by the United States, as if the world is opperating behind a curtain with the real plans, while trying to pretend every thing is ok before us..

Then there are is another story, which I cannot seem to find on CNN, was an argument that President Bush and the leader of South Korea had.... it was obscure ...

South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun and President Bush had a small argument, and the official explanation was that there was a "mis interpretation" ... be it several times in a row? .. South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun wanted Bush to "make official peace with North Korea. Does that make sense? The United States never went to war with North Korea, the United Nations did, and South Korea is the ONLY ONE who can officially END the war. Roh is a smart man. He knows this... so why does he DEMAND that bush ... make sure?. . that the North does not attack the south? .. what is Roh afraid of?

My thoughts are that at the APEC meeting, Bush told Roh about the plans ahead, and the inevitable war that could be coming... Roh obviously was very upset.... as he displayed....

If the North and South ever went to war the North has enough artillery built into the mountains aimed at Seoul South Korea that it is estimated within the first days fighting some TWO MILLION South Koreans would be killed.. aerial attacks would be limited to some of the major artillery areas, but because of the stealth and strength they are placed, it is impossible to take them all out with air power alone.... Seoul will be left defenseless... and I think Roh believes something will be happening shortly to make the North attack, and I believe he was demanding bush protect them... which Bush just gave the testy remark of "I don't know if I can be any more clear.."..

Many are guessing dates the war will begin, but I cannot predict the future.. maybe this Friday, I hope not this soon, maybe next year, maybe five years from now..

But what I am trying to say is that when we look at history, we see a mirror of WWI .. and WWII .. the sides are being picked, the major players announced and the battle lines are being drawn..


reply posted on 12-9-2007 @ 07:12 PM by highfreq
reply to post by Rockpuck



Rockpuck, I would love to discuss this with you but I have to leave for a bit. Just know that your post struck a chord in me that I have never felt. The realization that the next World War is right before our eyes. Excellent post

[edit on 12-9-2007 by highfreq]


reply posted on 12-9-2007 @ 11:15 PM by chinabean
If we do go to war with all of those other countries like russia/china and stuff

what happens to us? how does it affect us? would there be an immediate draft? or what..? i mean #..the amount of soldiers we got walking around for ied targets aren't really helping much and low itself..and then we got two or more other BIG countries coming into the scene..that sucks..

and then if we do go to war and we the people stand up against the war, would it immediately be some kind of call to become martial law since the bigger agenda for the country would be to fight the war outside of the country instead of inside?

I think..personally..if it was to end up as an all out world war 3 with the United States against china/russia and whatnot I think this country would probably go down the drain if the government/military doesn't receive the support of we the people. but if it succeeds in the war..the only way would most likely be martial law. which itself could cause a lot of problems still in the mainland..

then some people might say our air force and our uhh navy is far superior and can handle it all without much need for group troops..well i'm pretty sure we aren't going to fight a small country with sticks and stones again..even with that we still aren't having a successful "mission" there. Not only that..I believe Russia+China+Iran and maybe others AIRFORCE/NAVY could hold up pretty nifty along just the United States if we are alone if WW3 happens..


reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 12:57 AM by BlackOps719
Before it is all said and done this conflict could usher in the end of free society and life as we all know it. Why are our political leaders so hell bent on mass destruction? War, war war war..that is always the solution for these people...especially the wealthy ones who won't be fighting and dying and losing their sons. Haven't these idiots learned a damn thing from the past?

I feel like this train is tearing down the tracks, out of control, with nobody at the wheel. Our military is already spread thin, these people have already spent years in the dirt fighting this stupid, pointless, insufferable war. They need to come home to their families, we as a country do NOT belong in the middle east. This is not just sabre rattling folks, do you realize that we are honest to God about to start a major international conflict that we have no way to win? World War III...are you kidding me?

The sad part is that judging by the people I know who I have discussed this with, most have no idea of what is even going on. I swear, they have no idea that we are teetering on the brink of collapse. They are entirely oblivious to what will potentially happen in the next days and weeks to come.

Personally, I cringe when I think of the possibilities of what we will face. Millions dead world wide, martial law, reinstatement of the draft, Vietnam x 10...only this time it's going to be nuclear /biological warfare. One billion angry, screaming Muslims waging their own personal jihad against the U.S. ...and that doesn't even account for the Russian, Iranian, Syrian and Chinese troops.

But look on the bright side, at least we will have Israel to back us up right?

I feel much like Wile E. Coyote..sitting patiently & holding a thin umbrella...waiting for the sky to fall.


reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 12:59 AM by ATSGUY
reply to post by Rockpuck



Great post, and i have to agree with you i have been seeing the tension rising more and more than ever. The media is also playing the public...i think bill orielly said this on a debate with ron paul and that we will go to war with Iran.

And the sad part is if that happens, the draft will probably be instated, and the use of possible nuclear weapons or weapons like the mother of all bombs on Iranian targets.


reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 01:17 AM by Project_Silo
Originally posted by BlackOps719

I feel like this train is tearing down the tracks, out of control, with nobody at the wheel. Our military is already spread thin, these people have already spent years in the dirt fighting this stupid, pointless, insufferable war. They need to come home to their families, we as a country do NOT belong in the middle east. This is not just sabre rattling folks, do you realize that we are honest to God about to start a major international conflict that we have no way to win? World War III...are you kidding me?

The sad part is that judging by the people I know who I have discussed this with, most have no idea of what is even going on. I swear, they have no idea that we are teetering on the brink of collapse. They are entirely oblivious to what will potentially happen in the next days and weeks to come.

Personally, I cringe when I think of the possibilities of what we will face. Millions dead world wide, martial law, reinstatement of the draft, Vietnam x 10...only this time it's going to be nuclear /biological warfare. One billion angry, screaming Muslims waging their own personal jihad against the U.S. ...and that doesn't even account for the Russian, Iranian, Syrian and Chinese troops.

I feel much like Wile E. Coyote..sitting patiently & holding a thin umbrella...waiting for the sky to fall.


Wow,nicely said man.Lately many poeple have been posting the exact same way I feel.I think its getting out to more and more,but some will just call it more propaganda.I just can't believe those who don't understand this.

This is a serious issue.We absolutely cannot attack Iran unless we have NO DOUBT they are making nukes.We could have attacked them long ago over the IEDS,but it is to late for that now.The allience of Iran,China,Russia should not be doubted.Even if they hated eachtoehr Russia and China both have many reasons to take advantage of such a sittuation.

Even with proof of iranian nukes it would still be a horrible sittuation.What can we do to make sure they don't keep this up?Protest we want proof before war?Heh we will be arrested silly,you can't protest in America.


[edit on 13-9-2007 by Project_Silo]


reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 01:18 AM by Ketzer22
This stuff is crazy! I've been following all this Iran/China/ww3 talk for the past week or so. At first it seemed like people were stretching it a little bit, but more and more things just keep coming up. Here's a quote that I thought was kinda relevant, and has always been one of my favorite quotes from Einstein "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." Kinda scary what could happen here in the next few weeks/months. I am a little worried, being an 18 year old male, that if war with Iran does happen, there's gonna be a draft. I believe this whole-heartedly. Although I don't think any ground war would be fought if we did go to war with China/Russia/Iran.

Also... you guys China's army is the most massive army in the world... we'll have to funnel them into hell's gate where their numbers count for nothing.

But on a serious note... I think people are giving Russia/China/Iran waaaaay too much credit. To the person who said their Navy/Airforce could put up a fight... no way! Our Navy is crazy!! If this war is fought I think the Geneva convention is going to be thrown right out the window and the war will be fought right. Our Navy is probably dying to stretch it's legs with all the battleships and cruisers and what not. The United States could turn Beijing into dust in a day (not using nuclear weapons) If Russia/China/Iran were smart they'd back off the United States.


reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 01:32 AM by Project_Silo
reply to post by Ketzer22



Chinese navy is not to bad.I'm not to keen on Russias though.But does anyoen remember like maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago about the naval wargames we had.Were ALL ten of our vessels were sunk and we did not even detect them,much less shoot at them.

Also the Chinese happend to have stole a lot of technology from our navy.They stole our state of the art submarine engine information,nuclear information,and the very very important outter shell of our submarines.Wich keeps the sub running silent along with the engine.And all this withen the last 6 years,I also forgot some most likely.

[edit on 13-9-2007 by Project_Silo]


reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 02:18 AM by windwaker
reply to post by Ketzer22



Trust me. If WW3 happens and there's a draft, we are all going to war. Every man up to the age 45. So it's not just you that's worried.


reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 02:29 AM by windwaker
reply to post by chinabean



Theoretically, to stop a long and drawn out world war, both sides would have to have an incredible, unbearable amount of casualties very quickly to create a shock effect that will snap both sides out of the violent tendency.

I believe that genes to protect the species kick in once a major catastrophe involving the loss of hundreds of thousands or millions at one time happens.
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