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reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 03:57 PM by downtown436
reply to post by mad scientist


They can trace it to the reactor that it was created it, but again like I said, in the case of a false flag event, the people detonating the bomb are the same ones that control the equipment that detects where the core was made.

Also there are so many missing nukes from all over the world, that who knows how many covert nukes there are floating around.

I believe I read a thread about South Africa's nukes being loaded on a b-52 that subsequently crashed in the Indian ocean on the way to Diego Garcia.

Heck a b-36 crashed on my family's ranch next door to Holloman AFB in the 1950's with nukes on board.

I think we have "lost" 11-14 nukes, the U.S.S.R has lost up to 44 nukes at sea.

This is horrifyingly scary stuff, we are no safer now than we were at the height of the cold war.


reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 03:58 PM by mad scientist
Originally posted by keeb333
reply to post by mad scientist


Could you please clarify your meaning of the term "football?"

I have never heard the word used in that context. Thanks


The football is the name given to the breifcase which contains the presidents nuclear release authorisation codes. The football is always caried by an officer of teh military who is never far from the President no matter where he is.

en.wikipedia.org...



reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 04:06 PM by mad scientist
Originally posted by downtown436
reply to post by mad scientist


They can trace it to the reactor that it was created it, but again like I said, in the case of a false flag event, the people detonating the bomb are the same ones that control the equipment that detects where the core was made.


That would require coercing a hell of a lot of people, hardly makes for an airtight secret. There are far beter ways they could aquire a nuclear warhead, without being so obvious. Like I said, I'm sure the Israeli's would give them one.



I believe I read a thread about South Africa's nukes being loaded on a b-52 that subsequently crashed in the Indian ocean on the way to Diego Garcia.


I don't think the US ever transported any weapons from South Africa.


I think we have "lost" 11-14 nukes, the U.S.S.R has lost up to 44 nukes at sea.


I think it's closer to 70 for the US


reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 04:18 PM by etshrtslr
reply to post by mad scientist


Yes but have any ever been lost under these circumstances?

Planes crashing and subs sinking and losing nukes in the process is one thing, but when supposedly six are loaded and five are landed and there is a 10 hour gap before its realized then it appears we are dealing with something different than what has occurred in the past.

On the other end of the spectrum is all the supposedly unaccounted for nukes from the former soviet union. If those accounts are even partially true then there has to be a few more nukes out there in god knows who's hands. And to date none of those have been used.

Edit to add:

If all these nukes from the US and former soviet union are indeed missing and have not been used so far then maybe the are all worthless as nuclear bombs without the detonation codes?

I have no idea but I think if some terrorist organization could have used one they would have used one.


[edit on 11-9-2007 by etshrtslr]


reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 04:41 PM by Terrapop
DebkaFile is reporting that Two Additional US Carrier-Strike Groups are bound for the Persian Gulf Region. The USS Nimitz and USS Truman) (here)(track) They will be joining the existing USS Enterprise Strike Group in the region... Russia Just Delivered some SSN-X-26 Yakhont Super Sunburn Missiles (Carrier Killers) to Iran (here) and Iran is reporting that the Duma is considering rushing their very most advanced anti-ballistic missile system (S-400) to Iran (here) Is their missile systems serious - believe it (here) Carriers will arrive end of September if the Mossad authored Debka file is accurate, so it gives us a small reprieve... We conclude the media-ignored Paris talks did NOT go as planned, and now the brinkmanship is being notched up a rachet.. (here) Expect and watch to see if Russia matches the brinkmanship in the next week by delivering the S-400 Missile shield system to Iran... (here) What we don't get is this : if the average cruising speed of a strike group is about 24 knots (estimate), they move 24 hrs a day, so they go at least 550 miles a day, they won't be there by the end of September rather, they will be there in about 7-8 days if they want to, their speed is limited by the refueling tanker in the strike group... If Russia is willing to share missiles with Iran, I am certain that they will be keeping the Iranians posted on the speed and ETA of the carriers from monitoring satellites... Watch Iranian TV for 'defiant articles' or 'cooperative articles' in this game of brinkmanship... (here) Media and even the alternatives are totally ignoring how serious this is getting... Not even covering it at all..


www.anomalicresearch.com...

In my view the US strikes before the S-400 are delivered to Iran.

[edit on 11-9-2007 by Terrapop]


reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 04:44 PM by KnowItAll
Originally posted by Terrapop
DebkaFile is reporting that Two Additional US Carrier-Strike Groups are bound for the Persian Gulf Region. The USS Nimitz and USS Truman) (here)(track) They will be joining the existing USS Enterprise Strike Group in the region... Russia Just Delivered some SSN-X-26 Yakhont Super Sunburn Missiles (Carrier Killers) to Iran (here) and Iran is reporting that the Duma is considering rushing their very most advanced anti-ballistic missile system (S-400) to Iran (here) Is their missile systems serious - believe it (here) Carriers will arrive end of September if the Mossad authored Debka file is accurate, so it gives us a small reprieve... We conclude the media-ignored Paris talks did NOT go as planned, and now the brinkmanship is being notched up a rachet.. (here) Expect and watch to see if Russia matches the brinkmanship in the next week by delivering the S-400 Missile shield system to Iran... (here) What we don't get is this : if the average cruising speed of a strike group is about 24 knots (estimate), they move 24 hrs a day, so they go at least 550 miles a day, they won't be there by the end of September rather, they will be there in about 7-8 days if they want to, their speed is limited by the refueling tanker in the strike group... If Russia is willing to share missiles with Iran, I am certain that they will be keeping the Iranians posted on the speed and ETA of the carriers from monitoring satellites... Watch Iranian TV for 'defiant articles' or 'cooperative articles' in this game of brinkmanship... (here) Media and even the alternatives are totally ignoring how serious this is getting... Not even covering it at all..


www.anomalicresearch.com...


IMHO...DEBKAFILE is hardly a credible source...and the anomaly website...that's all a bunch of nonsensical opining.


reply posted on 11-9-2007 @ 04:47 PM by etshrtslr
reply to post by watchingout


As a former professional trader the whole incident of the option trade is completely misunderstood and taken out of context.

Even a small move in the SPX would have resulted in a gain or loss based on what side of the trade one was on.

A 4.5 billion dollar trade in the option market is not that out of the ordinary and not that large given the leverage of options.

An out right sale or purchase of an index ETF would in my mind certainly raise eyebrows.

Check out the thread on ATS regarding that specific trade. It will expaline all you need to know
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