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Palestinian rocket blast wounds 50 Israeli soldiers

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posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 01:53 PM
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Yes legitimate targets, so then why are the terrorists hiding in civilian clothing?
How would the Israeli army go about in finding out the terrorists?




posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Equinox99
Yes legitimate targets, so then why are the terrorists hiding in civilian clothing?
How would the Israeli army go about in finding out the terrorists?


In fighting a superior force, you've got to play a war of attrition. If they were wearing uniforms, they might as well be wearing red coats. And haven't the Israelis got the best intelligence service in the world, the Mossad?



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:10 PM
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Ok let's get some facts straight here.

www.ynetnews.com...

That's Olmert talking about his vision of a Palestinian state.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:19 PM
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I have looked at many maps, and I'm having a hard time finding Palestine. One site of many: www.coasttocoastam.com...

This may just be one among many reasons why Israel refuses to recognize Palestine as a state/nation.




posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Djarums
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Well, nothing shows ignorance quite as much as cheering on destruction, regardless of "who's side you're on".

You must be very proud!



Not at all. There isn't much in this world that makes me proud anymore. The only thing that gives me inspiration is the underdog fighting the giants.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:21 PM
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My apologies in providing the wrong link copied from another forum.

The link intended is: www.worldmap.org...



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:24 PM
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If you do that, then you will see more of your innocent people dying by mistake.
It is a coward way to fight a battle, I realize it is the only way for them to fight, but if they do that more of their people will die.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:26 PM
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You know, I don't really pay much attention to the Israel-Palestine situation, but isn't Abbas from Fatah? And didn't Hamas win the election in January? Why is Olmert talking to the opposition instead of the Hamas leadership?



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:29 PM
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You're not answering the issue I raised. Israel has got Mossad. If they really wanted they could've assassinated the leaders of their enemies, like they've done many times.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by manzoor
well because they choose to join the idf which means you have to kill others there for you are not a civilian and they are combatians.
they chose to join knowing they will have to kill people and maybe be shot back at.


Err, you don't choose to join the IDF, your drafted in. Everyone in Israel when they reach 17(or 18 I forget) is required to join the IDF. Just thought I'd tell you that.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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Why are you addressing this to me? Did I mention Palestine anywhere? I'm talking about Palestinians.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:34 PM
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Kacen, can you tell me if that is part of their constitution or if that is part of some other law? Thanks.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by paul76Not at all. There isn't much in this world that makes me proud anymore. The only thing that gives me inspiration is the underdog fighting the giants.


I think you need to use logic and not just support any underdog.


Israel is the only country in the middle east with freedom of religion, among other things.

It's the only country where you can live in and believe whatever you want. In Palestine I'd be killed for being an atheist.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Beachcoma
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Kacen, can you tell me if that is part of their constitution or if that is part of some other law? Thanks.


I don't really know what it is part of, but I know it is a fact. I have friend's in Israel. All are in the IDF barring the ones that are too young.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 02:53 PM
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Hamas won the elections for the Palestinian Legislative Council with a solid majority, but Abbas was still the president or prime minister.

Israel want it some guarantees that Abbas was going to be involve in the peace process because they refuse to engage Hamas in peace talks, because Hamas want not part in something that at the end will bring a Israeli state.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Beachcoma

Originally posted by Bunch

But if we talking about options what about, sit down at the diplomacy table, forget about religions and come down with something in which both states can coexist peacefully with one another for the sake of their citizens.

I think that's too much to ask.


Have you forgotten? Israel won't acknowledge them. Apparently it is too much to ask.


I replied based on your mentioning of Israel's lack of acknowledgement.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by bodrul
Israel refused to even talk with hamas. unless it met its demands.
hamas offerd peace with Israel if it pulled back from all occupied land.


Wrong.

Hamas REFUSED to recognise the State of Israel and supports its destruction. The "occupied land" was the whole of Israel, that what Hamas wanted. It wanted Israel to end itself as a sovereign nation.

So I don't blame Israel for not wanting to negotiate with them.

Please don't try and make Hamas out to be victims.

[edit on 11-9-2007 by infinite]



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 03:29 PM
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Well, your assumption that I was talking about Palestine the country was wrong. I was talking about Palestinians, or rather, the Palestinian leadership.

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So the Israeli leadership decides not to talk to the Palestinian leadership to work something out? Are these leaders or children?

You know what I think? I think neither the Israeli leaders nor the Palestinian leaders are serious about wanting peace.

Whatever. In the end it's the people that suffer.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 03:41 PM
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Hamas won't recognize Israel as a state. Then who Israel talks too? At least they put the impression out that they are trying to get something done about the issue.

But like you said may be neither side is serious about it and the just want to kill each other eternally til the end of days.

The question would be then why?



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Bunch

The question would be then why?


Maybe they've been doing it too long that that is all they know. But I have to agree though, Israel is definitely playing it smarter.



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