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Originally posted by johnlear
I was wrong. Tom Bedlam was correct. It was not a nuclear weapon. Now I unequivically think it was a Directed Energy Weapon.
My thoughts and suspicions are good up to midnight Pacific time. If they are not changed or modified they are good for another day unless changed or modified herein.
Today we're going to design our own WTC Killing Beam Weapon of Doom to see just what one would look like. While the beam emitter itself could plausibly be a "black" project, something the Governmint doesn't want us to see, it would be dependent on much more mundane technologies -- launch vehicles, power systems, that kind of thing -- and still restrained by the laws of physics. While we may not know anything about the weapon itself, we can figure out the rest.
So suppose an unsmiling man in a grey suit delivers a magical beam weapon to us, and insists we make it functional. All we know are its requirements. Some of these we can divine from what we saw on Sept. 11th.
The beam weapon must fire from almost directly above its target, and must do so unseen. If it fired at an angle, the beam -- allegedly capable of destroying the WTC towers -- would have cut through at an angle, leaving a quite interesting damage path, one that was not seen on TV. Likewise, TV cameras did not capture any blimps or dirigibles or large aircraft hovering high above the Towers. Thus, we assume the beam system was orbital.
Originally posted by johnlear
Far too risky. Do you have any idea how difficult is is to hit a building at 500 mph. You might miss the first time and all these explosions would be going off while you are circling back for another try. And why waste a good airplane? Those things are expensive!!!
Except your theory isn't plausible at all. If a thermobaric weapon were used on the WTC it would not have looked at all like what it did. Besides, you don't even know what "the government's theory" is, as you have obviously not read the NIST report. Therefore your opinion of its plausibility has about as much worth as my dog's.
Which will go nowhere, I assure you. Don't be pissed, or surprised, when it's tossed out of court as frivolous. The rest is just argumentum ad ignorantium. Here's a thought: why don't you go study the physics relating to the weapons system you're describing, or better yet (since you're obviously not a scientific type) why don't you ask a scientist from the relevant field if the scenario you're speculating about is feasible? Where do you think secret weapons programs come from?
The jet fuel did not clearly all burn up outside the building. A great deal of it spread throughout the impacted floors causing widespread fires. NIST estimates that most of the fuel burnt up within 10 minutes, but the mass of office contents continued to burn for almost two hours in the North Tower and almost an hour in the South Tower. Office fires are known to reach very high temperatures: up to 1800 degrees Fahrenheit, more than hot enough to significantly weaken the damaged steel core columns and the remaining perimeter columns that had not already been severed from the aircraft impacts, as well as the floor trusses connecting the floors to the perimeter and core columns. As a result the floor trusses of several floors were deformed, eventually pulling the perimeter columns inward towards the core. (This bowing of the perimeter columns can be seen in close-up pictures and videos of the towers focused near the impact zones minutes before the collapses.) Once buckled, the perimeter columns could no longer hold the loads they were bearing and redistributed them to the already weakened core columns. Thus the whole upper portion of the tower above the impact zone was being held up by a few core columns, far more than they were designed to hold, and global structural failure inevitably ensued. This initiated a more or less symmetrical collapse in the form of the "pancaking" effect: floor after floor being sequentially stacked onto the ever increasing falling mass of the upper portion of the building.
If the US government was in posession of a power source that is 30 million times more powerful that the biggest generator that could fit onto a semi-trailer truck yet could fit into the space shuttles cargo bay, or atop a Delta IV rocket, then the age of oil would be OVER!
Lets just say, for the sake of argument, that there is a satellite in orbit capable of doing the things you believe to have happened. The power requirements for such a device would result in a satellite the size of Rhode Island. The logistics of such a thing are nearly beyond comprehension.
Lets not forget that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to hide such an orbital construction. Something that size would be visible to the naked eye and resolvable with good detail using a decent pair of binoculars, let alone a telescope. Thousands of amateur astronomers all over the world would have seen and reported it long before 9/11.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
This is the government allowing disinformation, to brand the whole truth movement as lunatics.
There was no significant damage to the bathtub on 9/11.
WTC Station Platform after the event; this PATH train wasn't crushed.
Traditional CD doesn't do this.
None of this would hold up in court, and even if 20% of it "could", there's a major problem in PROVING a court case: