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Originally posted by SimiusDei
here anymore start when the NAACP is in town to remind black people that their great great great granddaddy might have been a slave.
However, since I don't want this to turn into a race related thread, I'll only say this one last thing in regards to race. The NAACP and the Black Panther party are just as big of a hate group today as the Ku Klux Klan was in the early to middle part of this century.
As far as homosexuality goes, I think the main problem they face these days is NOT being discriminated against because they are homosexual.....BUT being discriminated against because they just can't damn help but remind us (on a near constant basis) that they are homosexual.
Homosexuals naturally make straight people a bit uncomfortable, not because they are gay, but because we are straight and most of us find it disgusting yet SOME of them go out of their way to make sure we know just how happily gay they are.
I could very well be wrong, but gay pride parades en masse and the perpetual need some of them feel to wear their "Gay and Proud" labels daily are far more detrimental to gays than just some idiot who knows they are gay and is out to "get them".
And just so you know, if I ever see a "STRAIGHT AND PROUD" parade, I'll find that quite stupid and pathetic as well. What's the moral of this story? If you aren't looking for unnecessary attention, don't bring unnecessary attention to yourself.
Personally, I think blacks, whites and gays of any color (so long as they are American citizens) need to get together and worry more about the illegal immigrants in this country than we do about each other.
It is PATHETIC! These people seem to think that the best solution for childhood discipline is to take a 1 year old and put them in time-out or some crap like that. I'm sorry guys, but taking a BABY and throwing them off in seclusion is FAR MORE detrimental to their overall health and mental wellbeing than spanking them. Spanking, when done effectively and not overdone, is a very effective tool when teaching your children right from wrong.
It is also a very good way to make sure your kids don't hurt themselves when you turn your back on them for a few minutes.
A parent that truly loves their kids, will NEVER have a problem spanking them. Why do I say this? Because a parent that TRULY loves their kids will NEVER overdo it and they will ONLY do it when it's to TEACH the child.
Spanking kids out of anger is one of the worst mistakes a parent can make, other than never disciplining your child and giving them everything they want when they want it.
That being said, child discipline ALSO falls under the "Political Correctness" heading.
From this point forward, please refrain from turning this thread into a racism based thread.
There has been far too much talk of that subject already. If it is spoken of, please keep it in the context of the thread, IE: How it relates to political correctness.
The reason I placed apathy at number 1 is because apathy is responsible for all of the others in the list. Therefore, it is the root causes of most of our problems in this country.
Thank all of you (yes, even those of you I disagree with) for your opinions and for contributing to this thread. I was actually quite surprised to wake up and see this on the front page of ATS
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by SimiusDei
Don't worry too much about the national debt. There is clear solution
to that. Our future has never been brighter. Cheer up.
Pop in a copy of Back to the Future II. Advanced technology will
save the day. The truth will be revealed to you 2012.
Hang in there.
Originally posted by TommyCrown
I now wish to ask a very serious question of you all.
As I have never given a toss whether a person's skin is black, white or sky blue pink with purple stripes why is it so important to constantly refer to 'African American', 'Italian American', 'Irish American', 'Chinese American', etc, etc American.
It just seems ridiculous - surely, if you are American, then you are American.
I'm not telling you to forget your ancestry, but I think (however simple it may seen) this could help bring about a more cohesive and respectful society.
Assimilate, don't aggravate - hey, that's kinda catchy!
I look forward to your wrath.
Originally posted by StellarX
I know you want to believe that it's not your fault but i do not care much for circular arguments. Black people people did not live that way before they were enslaved.
Because the American government chooses to lock up black men for ridiculous reasons.
Because they are treated far worse than the norm ? Do you not realise that the conditions that are being created for America's black poor leads directly to their behaviours?
I knew you were white as i hear the same arguments from white South-Africans/Americans every day. The fact that you think white poverty i the US is comparable to African American poverty speaks volumes as to just how well propagandized you have been.
Well if suppose we are using very different definitions of what welfare is. Do you think social security and pension plans should be counted as welfare if American citizens are funding such programs themselves?
If you are willing to supply sources for your claim i will do the same.
Because it is racist and ignorant and circular reasoning? I know you WANT to believe the victims are to blame for their victim status but that is not in my opinion true.
Are you so racist that you can not even realise such a obvious truth?
I agree and i think white Americans should pay for taking far more than their fair share of the public treasury.
Sure and that's why you must pay such large bribes to find recruits and retain skilled men?
Originally posted by StellarX
If by hell you mean world war three ( AKA Germany not so long ago) i suppose so. ...
Originally posted by slackerwire
The poor blacks in America are still exponentially better off than their counterparts in most of Africa today.
Yea, youre right, blacks shouldnt be locked up for all of the violent crimes they commit. Give me a break.
Ever happen to think their conditions are the result of their behavior? When blacks do not value hard work and education,
and instead spend their time smokin crack and pretending they are rappers, what kind of conditions do you think that will create?
Or how racist you are towards whites.
No. I am talking TANF, WIC, and the various other welfare programs the poor benefit from. 500 billion is 60 years is an awfully low number.
You provided the number, back it up, and I will refute it accordingly.
o we should blame everyone other than blacks right?
Post any examples of racism I have posted.
I'll save you the time. You can't.
Huh? When you break down the numbers, blacks and hispanics receive exponentially more welfare dollars than whites do per capita.
If they were paid any more, people like you would be whining abuot the defense budget.
They know that going in, yet they still CHOOSE to enlist.
Originally posted by StellarX
The vast majority of people in Jail are there for non violent drug offenses and this is as true for African American males
But they do value education and hard work as most are working hard whenever they can find a job or a half decent place to study....
Well bring me some official numbers as i don't mind apologising when i have reason to.
The President's budget for 2006 totals $2.6 trillion. This budget request is broken down by the following expenditures:
$359.5 billion (13.79%) - Unemployment and welfare
Until we are given good reason to do otherwise, yes. There is a legal system that is punishing African Americans very disproportionally so it's not like they are going to get away with much to start with.
That is not true and since you wish to claim that as fact i suppose we can check if you know how to use google and find the 'facts' you have already decided to believe in.
I can't imagine how we can pay someone too little for killing innocent people in a country that never attacked the US or it's citizens.
Originally posted by SimiusDei
3. Perpetual War for Profit - Still stuck in Iraq after 5 years and nothing has been accomplished. Unless you count a bunch of millionaires becoming billionaires and 4000+ American lives being lost as something. And for what? The only logical answer: MONEY..."OH! But we got Saddam out of power!" Bah, Saddam hasn't hurt any of us over here on American soil, at least the last time I checked.
you should be proud of your self for thinking the people who have given there lives for you died for nothing... yes they died for freedom any way you look at it.. they took an oath to defend from all threats foreign and domestic.. and obey the orders of all officers appointed over them and being the president is the only 5 star general you will ever see again... right or wrong he is our president..
though i would like to add i agree with you on all points except the one stated above..
just a side note we don’t call them hippies any more we are politically correct and call them democrats..
have you ever talked to a soldier or vet who joined the military for their country and no to go to college for free? you would rethink that statement above. i am a vet and have friends overseas now and have lost friends there and to think they died for any thing less than to ensure a free country for you and yours, words cant describe what i feel about that statement.
but like i said you do bring up lots of good points i agree with.
sorry i dont think i quoted this correctly but yall get the point
[edit on 15pmu102007 by DaleGribble]
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Why black people are desperately needed
Now combine the intellectual capabilities of whites with the emotional capabilities of blacks and you have a superhuman.