Gigantic Alien Craft Photographed By Cassini! NASA’s Cover-Up Blown?, page 9
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reply posted on 9-9-2007 @ 06:22 PM by internos
Originally posted by antipigopolist


While I would like nothing more than to have actual proof of alien intelligence, it's seems some are blindly taking stock in the "evidence" put forth here without doing a bit of research themselves and then furthering the inaccuracies by continuing to post external source inaccuracies so that what is "Jane sleeps with Tarzan" devolves into "Tarzan sleeps with Cheeta". It's fun to dig into the "what if" and the potential of evidence but let's not be lazy and push logic and common sense aside in the process.



What about chill out and take a look at my post again?

Originally posted by internos
Originally posted by Terrapop
Cassini also recorded freaky sounds:

PIA07967: Bizarre Sounds of Saturn's Radio Emissions


About the "freaky sounds", found this on YT..
Maybe old news?



Speech patterns have been found ....


SOURCE:
YouTube video description
(video)


I have just posted it in response to another post.
Show me where i say it's a PROOF, WHERE.
Ok, thank you for showing your appreciable skill in the field of radios and your useless skill in gathering contents from external sources, although you added NOTHING to the thread.
People has NOTHING to learn from you about common sense, since you judged a post without read it before.

P.S.:
Next time, please, read CAREFULLY before bla bla bla.
Sorry, but so far, at least, i tried to add some contents here, you added just your useless chat.


[edit on 9/9/2007 by internos]


reply posted on 9-9-2007 @ 06:39 PM by Evasius


reply posted on 9-9-2007 @ 07:49 PM by shadow_D
Great thread!! I don't want to do a movie comparison but didn't Star Trek have a huge black cylinder in one movie trying to verify if there were whales still alive and also in Dune..

Anyway, I find it very interesting that these pics relate to a video that I posted when I first joined but was basically ingored. I'll repost it again for everyone to view:

www.youtube.com...

It's a great little video of someone claiming of having taken pictures of being on a craft that was HUGE in orbit in our solar system and also met with other beings as well as time traveled.. Check it out.. It find it very fascinating that this little video does tie into these ships as well as the moon theories and everything..

Enjoy and thanks for this thread!!


reply posted on 9-9-2007 @ 09:10 PM by internos
Originally posted by antipigopolist
Originally posted by internos

What about chill out and take a look at my post again?

I have just posted it in response to another post.
Show me where i say it's a PROOF, WHERE.
Ok, thank you for showing your appreciable skill in the field of radios and your useless skill in gathering contents from external sources, although you added NOTHING to the thread.
People has NOTHING to learn from you about common sense, since you judged a post without read it before.

P.S.:
Next time, please, read CAREFULLY before bla bla bla.
Sorry, but so far, at least, i tried to add some contents here, you added just your useless chat.


I read your post carefully, internos. And by you and terrapop directing people bad-science and no-science links, you mislead the readers of this thread into thinking there is some validity to the videos topic and the audio file.

I merely directed readers to quality info about radio waves so that they might understand why what you referenced is bad science. If that offends you, so be it...I'm not here to cater to egos. But what was truely useless was that video. Pure sensationalism without a bit of science behind it. IGNORANCE DENIED!

-AP

[edit on 9-9-2007 by antipigopolist]

Again, you missed to read carefully, dude, althought you DON'T deserve any further explanation: my post was a RESPONSE to another post, was between me and him, STOP.
You are a third person UNINVITED to discuss it, and NO ONE asked your advice. You just showed your "skills" in the radio field, as you already have done previously.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


I said i just posted in response to another post: look at the other post o' mine here and tell me if i made the same. It was JUST TO ADD material to another member's post, in this case it doesn't matter if it was on topic or not, the mods can handle this matter without your unwanted advice.


some are blindly taking stock in the "evidence" put forth here without doing a bit of research themselves and then furthering the inaccuracies by continuing to post external source inaccuracies so that what is "Jane sleeps with Tarzan" devolves into "Tarzan sleeps with Cheeta".


Here you haven't judged the quality of the references: you have judged OUR BEHAVIOURS, attributing us deceiving intents that we HAVEN'T, and anyway this is a matter that you aren't able to handle because just the mods are able to.
If you just posted the links and talked about the quality of the sources, i'd been the first to run to thank you and to star your post.

You can freely express your opinion about the contents but NOT about me,
and never again use the word IGNORANCE while talking with me, is it CLEAR dude?


[edit on 9/9/2007 by internos]



reply posted on 9-9-2007 @ 11:05 PM by johnlear
I emailed Norm Bergrun for permission to post the photo of the ship in the rings of Saturn as published in the book The Ringmakers of Saturn, the Pentland Press, Edinburgh, LOCCCN 86-81530, ISBN 0 946270 33 3.

Permission was denied.

In his fax to me this afternoon Norm (in part) said,

“John,

The two pages faxed to you (the French article) were sent to me from France in 1997. The diagram on the second page you will recognize as Plate 27 (RoS) which the French used without my permission. They also translated the book into French and tried to find a publisher. Never could find out whether they succeeded or not.

One post (ATS, “Gigantic Alien Craft Photographed by Cassini NASA’s Coverup Blown” says the following “I’m a little confused. Is the French article claiming that the photo with the three cigar shapes is real, or is that an illustration for their article?” The answer is: “The photo is a ‘kluged-up” image primarily based upon Ringmakers of Saturn Plate 27 page 50.”

Norm goes on to say that he has been trying to protect his intellectual property ever since the publication of Ringmakers of Saturn. He said “I suggest you post a blurb that tells where the French got their idea, refer them to and have them, on their Nav bar, click on the book back cover. The image shown is a latent image that was hidden in a NASA Voyager image because of a very dark background. Details and answers to other thread wonderments are disclosed in the RoS book.”

Norm closed by saying:

“Thank you for bringing the web item to my attention.

Best Regards,

Norm”


I guess that I should have asked Norm for permission BEFORE I mentioned it on the thread.

Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience this has caused.

I know that many on this thread and other threads feel that it is ‘their right’ to know and view this information about their solar system not to mention the universe.

They feel that if someone has information that they should not be trying to ‘make a buck’ off it; that the information belongs to all of us.

That may be.

Or if they are trying to ‘make a buck’ off it the information is not really true.

There is no denying that this has certainly happened in the past and will continue to happen. It doesn’t mean this is true for everyone.

It certainly isn’t true for Norm Bergrun and the information presented in the Ringmakers of Saturn. And I am certain of that.

I try to share as much as I know about it despite the thousands of questions that I cannot answer, and most of it for which I cannot offer any proof.

I post what I think is true and you can take it or leave it.

If the government had wanted you to know all of these things they would have told you. Nevertheless many search for the truth anyway.

And despite what one poster said, “John doesn’t really believe what he says”, I really do. At least the things that I post. I really believe there are at least several space stations in orbit about which we know nothing. I believe that we have been mining on the moon and Mars for many years.

I believe that space vehicles under the operational control of Air Force Space Command and other U.S. Government entities go back and forth to the moon every day with the same ease that a business jet flies from Vegas to Albuquerque. Or any other city.

I believe that at least some of these vehicles operate from normal runways and do not have to be launched by rockets.

But for reasons unknown to us this information has been kept secret since the late 1950’s. And will probably be kept secret for ever. I say ‘for ever’ because I see too many projects in place that will obscure what is really going on. For instance the current NASA moon project to go back there in 2020.

Are they kidding? No. Its all part of a gigantic and well organized coverup. And under no circumstances which includes disclosure, threats by Congress, request by the President will any of this ever become public knowledge.

A few weeks ago a few of us got together, me, Zorgon and a few others and we discussed how much we (the public) knew about government secret projects.

After some discussion we decided that on a scale of zero to a hundred, zero representing that we knew absolutely nothing, to one hundred which represented that we knew everything the government was doing that we knew between .5 to .8 of one.

Since I posted those figures several weeks ago I have come upon some additional information that would cause me to revise those figures. I would like to revise the scale to zero to one thousand. But I am still keeping the .5 to .8 of one to represent what we know.

There are many that do not share my views and to those I can only say I understand.

I can also say, “If you only knew.”


reply posted on 9-9-2007 @ 11:22 PM by mikesingh
reply to post by Indellkoffer



Indell, here's a very valid point brought out by Evasius.
Originally posted by Evasius
That's one heck of a picture. If it was a comet the tail would most certainly be blown away from the Sun making it always appear to point towards the Sun. If an asteroid was breaking up and was close enough to the sun, the trail would also point away.

It definitely looks like a huge artificial object that met its demise quickly.


so, a comet's tail always points in the direction opposite the direction of the sun from the comet. If the comet were headed directly towards the sun, the comet tail would point straight back from the comet away from the sun.

With any other angle of movement of the comet, the tail still points away from the sun or solar wind.

In this case the 'tail' of the object is parallel to the sun.

Secondly, Comets actually have two tails: the dust tail and the gas or ion tail. The 'pieces' breaking off from this object are themselves hundreds of miles long. A dust tail would not look like large pieces breaking off.
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