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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 04:59 AM by ZeroGhost

OK, seen the stuff, but on the fence.

So far no perspective shots with lighting that would define a cylinder and all look to me like moon transits accelerated by probe travel and exposure times cause streaks. Some of these moons are so close to the rings that they cause perturbances and waves we can see. So many uncharted moons in these systems it is a probability drop-off if not better imaging. Still believe that they are there, just cant sign off on them for the current images.

This might be Old stuff, but I have been studying the alien Moon cylinder for months on YouTube. If you read the comments and do some due diligence, you find a large amount of data. These are more likely real than fake. Tell me if there is an archive here of talk on this. Or I'll start a thread.

Apollo20FlyoverAlienShip

Apollo20MoonShip

Alien Moon Ship Stills

See this.
RutlidgeMission2AlienMoonShip

Ever seen a fake faked? This feeble attempt might have worked. Disinformation is a powerful weapon. Like putting pepper on someones icecream. he icecream is still there, but no one will bite.

FakedFakeAlienMoonShip

Oh, and has anyone seen the Apollo 11 exploration of an ancient bunker?
Apollo11explorAncient bunker
AncientMoonBunker

I I have to say, these are more interesting the more you research them. The most I can say is that they are not looking like fakes. Hard to do. VERY hard. Special effects people and industry folks are saying not fake. I am saying I can't find compelling reasons to say these are faked. The fake is so fake it's stupid.

I hope you people have seen these. I've been sitting on this for months. Was not on ATS when I saw these. I sat with the NorCal Mufon Director and he translated the Spanish for me.

Any comments? Do you see how real these are?

I think it is possible we are being dribble-fed this stuff. Someone is managing this.

Oh, and I am amazed at how many folks don't have a clue. That scares me more than cometary impacts. I mean, screaming idiots! Where is NOMAD when we need him? "Error, Error, Error"

reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 05:33 AM by merka

The Apollo 20 stuff and the "bunker" has been discussed before. The spaceship is more than likely fake as it look like its cut into stock photo. The scene change completely (after a convenient blackout) despite the fact its the same "flyby".

The"bunker" was some scifi stuff from a spanish television show or something if I remember correctly?

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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 06:11 AM by mikesingh

Originally posted by merka
The Apollo 20 stuff and the "bunker" has been discussed before. The spaceship is more than likely fake as it look like its cut into stock photo.

That was a huge hoax if ever there was one! But I'm not sure if Apollo 20 was a hoax too! I'm on the fence on this one!

reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 06:42 AM by IgnoreTheFacts

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

You right, Texan. It is WAY more probable that we intentionally hit something artificial, (and it was planned in advanced by the great secret cabal at Nasa, the nsa, the cia, the men in black, whomever you imagine controls this stuff) rather than hit a natural object.

The fact that the outcome did not present itself in a manner that you find agreeable with your limited knowledge of space, astronomy and physics does not mean it is some woo woo science here. That's why they do these things, to learn.

But I can't can't see ignoring common sense and taking the flying leap of absurdity to believe, over every more probable conclusion, that we intentionally hit something artificial. That way of thinking is exactly how ignorant conspiracy's get moving.

Deny Ignorance.

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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 10:22 AM by timelike

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by timelike

Doesn't it bother anyone, that through a telescope (a large one at that) all appears well in the Saturnian sysetm? No purtabations of moons, no discolouration in the rings or Cassini Division, nothing...

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yes, this bothers me greatly. Almost like there is a giant sheet covering the sky? We view a holograph in the nighttime sky every night?

it is the 10k lb elephant in the room, i think. There are other big elephants, too. Like someone saying above that if that picture was such big news, would it not have appeared in the tabloid?

Interesting question. Does it not seem that news organizations ignore the truly newsworthy items in lieu of political misdirections provided to keep the masses confused and looking in the other direction?

What you "know" is likely not true. The truth, it would seem (when we get peeks behind the curtain), is wierder than anything you would consider possible.

then again, perhaps not.

So in otherwords, the usual conspiracy theories and and absurd guesswork. Giant holographs indeed...

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reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 01:39 PM by ZeroGhost

reply to post by mikesingh

Appreciate the feedback, yet the fence I am on is crawling up my crack and getting uncomfortable.

Did anyone read the thread on YouTube and look to the poster's comments? The guy is ex-Airforce and in Rwanda now. If this is all a hoax, and I have seen the bad stuff, this is not probable, taking into consideration the detail. Who, besides NSA, CIA and DARKS with nothing better to do would perpetrate such an extreme tale with media and back story?

When I saw the mission insignia on the Apollo console, I thought I saw aliasing in the thin lines like it was done on a cheap "modern" printer. I subsequently found it was compression artifacts from the video codec.

I have to say this, but I think conspiracy works both ways. Some operatives that saw the videos (they watch this site like a cat waiting for a dust ball to move), concoct badly done or dubious edits to put "pepper on our ice cream".

It's their job guys. Have any of us taken this into consideration? Are any of us paid to be here? If so, there is such a thing as non-locality, and we can sense the crap. All they need to do is cast a sliver of doubt. That seems to be all that is needed here to throw us non-pro hound dogs off the scent.

I remain quite interested in this and would ask that we not be so jaded with dismissing all the icecream for a few specks of pepper. So did anyone follow up on the backstory?

Rutlege Questions and answers

This was canned too soon. I doubt the operatives are paying as much attention now, unless my mail was detected by Raptor.

There are many hoaxes now for the attention we idiots give them. It is a trend that will eventually die down if we do not tolerate such cynical behavior in our society.

I want to start a thread on this if none have been done here. Again, was there anything but armchair experts and naysayers discussing this earlier this year?

I'll continue to search archives here to see. If no real discussion was had, I will post the videos and reinitialize.

Hey, it is the anniversary of the birth Majic! and MJ-12. How will we celebrate?

reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 03:05 PM by IgnoreTheFacts

Dude, give me a break. That stuff is fake as crap. And that's my scientific analysis. If you want to star a thread about that junk, go ahead. Common sense, reason and logic will previal. But you seem a little too eager to believe, perhaps. You claim your sitting on the fence, but for some reason I don't think so. I think they have you hook, line and sinker, lol.

reply posted on 26-9-2007 @ 05:53 PM by ZeroGhost

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Dude, give me a break. That stuff is fake as crap. And that's my scientific analysis. If you want to star a thread about that junk, go ahead. Common sense, reason and logic will previal. But you seem a little too eager to believe, perhaps. You claim your sitting on the fence, but for some reason I don't think so. I think they have you hook, line and sinker, lol.

So is "crap" a technical designation? As far as I know there is no evidence to disprove these except the planted fakes, jokes and reactive responses supported by nothing more than a knee-jerk fear or ignorance based reaction.

If you want to delve into some detail, I am willing to listen and look. Still, I have seen everything public and read the copy from the post individual "retafb". Have you looked over the fence of your subjective opinions?

Yea I am fairly permeable, but your assessment is without valid detail. Let me explain.

There is a quote from the Don Juan series by Castaneda. The old Toltec Brujo said; A warrior believes in everything - and in nothing." By that, he meant that we can gain information and power by placing ourselves within any particular belief system for a while in order to assess it, experience it, and perhaps use it, without actually adopting its belief dogmas for ourselves.

True objectivity is uncomfortable to the ego.

GMM

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 01:04 AM by mikesingh

Originally posted by ZeroGhost

Hey, it is the anniversary of the birth Majic! and MJ-12. How will we celebrate?

Hmmm...When is that? I believe all them dudes of MJ-12 are as dead as yesterday's news!

So who's gonna cut that darn cake?

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 04:33 AM by mikesingh

Here's a mysterious cylindrical object over Mars, similar to the ones seen near Saturn, taken from the official NASA web site...

AO67R1
Courtesy NASA/JPL

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 05:17 AM by Arawn

Those cylindrical objects could be space serpents. These space serpents have been captured on film numerous times and float about in the upper atmosphere and through space. They could use photosynthesis from the light of the sun for energy, who knows. Check out this video clip here:

It starts from 8:38

YouTube Link

As you can clearly see fron NASA's own footage, these weird cylindrical objects do exist. But what are they?

BTW, that's from a documentary called Secret Space if anyones wondering. I have it on DVD and it's a fascinating watch.

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reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 08:09 AM by mikesingh

reply to post by Arawn

Arawn, Hell's bells!! Hats off to you! That's a great find.

I wonder if all those UFOs around the space station were taken in UV light. I suspect so, otherwise they would probably have been seen from Earth through telescopes. Remember the famous 'Tether' incident? That was in the UV spectrum too.

And that space 'worm' looks ominous! Pretty huge that! Yeah, they do look like cylinders, but only momentarily as they are in a constant twisting motion. The ones in Saturn's rings are enormous, thousands of km long. Now those 'space worms' couldn't be that big, could they?!!

Cheers!

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 11:27 AM by Arawn

Originally posted by mikesingh
reply to post by Arawn

Arawn, Hell's bells!! Hats off to you! That's a great find. I wonder if all those UFOs around the space station were taken in UV light. I suspect so, otherwise they would probably have been seen from Earth through telescopes.

Thank you. I find that Secret Space DVD fascinating and from what I gather you are very keen in the UFO topic and have not seen this right? If not, you should definitely give it a watch. It gives plenty of food for thought!

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 02:40 PM by ZeroGhost

reply to post by Arawn

Yea, good stuff. I saw the "organisms" a few years ago on a UFO video compilation DVD set, and was blown. My first impression was that it was an organism transiting from another dimensional layer, close to ours. Or, have you ever wondered what happens when we have profound experiences in altered states, Lucid dreams or like some who for a while find themselves in another world? An example is Whitley Striebers story of a drive home with the kids, finding they where in a alternate version of their world with unrecognizable structures and landmarks, only to return and be told they disappeared for a long while.

So with this in mind, imagine a near by dimension (few centimeters away) where sentient organisms, simple lifeforms, have experiences that transport them to other worlds for a while. Eh, who knows.

Or, these are organic probes, grown to observe, based on simple lifeforms but capable of trancieving data with other advanced lifeforms. Hey why send Orbithon the astronaut from an alien exploration world when you can send a Paramecium with a bluetooth video camera and an intergalactic cell phone???

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Can you confirm the name of the production? I want it for the library. Good refrence, and I want to see the piece in its entirety.

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 03:23 PM by Arawn

reply to post by ZeroGhost

Yes, I made a recent thread about the whole movie HERE

Or you can simply watch it all HERE

It's around 1 hour 50 minutes in total.

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 08:32 PM by zorgon

CRITTERS!!!!

LOL They were first discovered in 1956...

They don't use the sun for photosynthesis... (they are not plants)

They 'feed' of plasma energy hence why you see them near thunderstorms and the STS Tether... they can be round sphere like (usually when small so perhaps they are the young ones) then they get huge several miles across...

They exist just on the edge of the visible spectrum, not really in another dimension, and you can see them with the naked eyes once they are 'gorged' with plasma Look around huge thunderstorms High voltage transmission lines at night or take an infra red camera out in the day time to 'hunt for critters'

Critters1
Critters2
Critters3
Critters4

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 08:40 PM by zorgon

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
You right, Texan. It is WAY more probable that we intentionally hit something artificial, (and it was planned in advanced by the great secret cabal at Nasa, the nsa, the cia, the men in black, whomever you imagine controls this stuff) rather than hit a natural object.

Way to go Ignore! I knew you would come around...

Oh wait my bad... was that sarcasm?

Deny Ignorance.

Yes skeptics use that quite a lot... but we are really trying to do just that, but as long as you 'ignore the facts' how on Earth will we EVER be able to deny your ignorance? Playing Ostrich won't work forever... sooner or later it will kick you in the butt

reply posted on 27-9-2007 @ 11:14 PM by zorgon

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Secondary explosion?

I could list some things that make a -little- more sense, but if you sit and think about it for a while you will get more out of it.

Well oh High and Mighty Lord of Common Sense... we praise your infinite wisdom... but may I make a suggestion?

Send your list to NASA, because as you have obviously got a better answer you might save them the expense of another spacecraft to find out what happened after that secondary explosion... I am sure they will be most anxious to hear from you...

Sept. 26, 2007: The flash! The dazzle! The front page of the New York Times! Two years ago, NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft dropped an 820 lb copper projectile onto Comet Tempel 1, unleashing an explosion that made headlines around the world.

Exploding comets tend to have that effect. But how many people know what happened after the blast? The surprising answer is none--not even NASA.

So I guess we should be honored to be in the presence of the only human who has the answer

Blowing a Hole in a Comet: Take 2

EDIT TO ADD:

I finally found the article I was looking for...

Scientists said preliminary data showed that the impact provoked two successive flashes, which could mean the comet's surface and depth are composed of two different matters.

"What you see is something really surprising. First, there is a small flash, then there's a delay, then there's a big flash and the whole thing breaks loose. We may have been able to detect some structural response to the impact," mission co-investigator Pete Shultz, of Brown University.

One image shows a "self-luminous" and "extremely bright incandescent ball," he said in a news conference at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Two Flashes, And A Bigger Bang Than 'Expected'

And while I was looking it up I came upon this thread here at ATS discussing it in 2005...

More resident "Lunatics" I am sure

THIS THREAD

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reply posted on 28-9-2007 @ 12:49 AM by ZeroGhost

Originally posted by Arawn
reply to post by ZeroGhost

Yes, I made a recent thread about the whole movie HERE

Or you can simply watch it all HERE

It's around 1 hour 50 minutes in total.

Thanks. It is a much better video that the post original. I can't stand video that has resolution below readable text. This was good.

reply posted on 28-9-2007 @ 02:25 AM by zorgon

More Out There Stuff

Gigantic Trilobite seen on the Sun

(stealing a little Mike Style sensationalism here

)

More wacko news from the "fringe" scientists...

Sept. 18, 2007:

"We've never seen anything quite like it," says solar physicist Lika Guhathakurta from NASA headquarters.

Before their very eyes an object as big as a planet materialized, and no one was prepared for the form it took.

"It looks like a prehistoric trilobite," said Marc De Rosa, a scientist from Lockheed Martin's Solar and Astrophysics Laboratory in Palo Alto, Calif. "To me it seemed more like cellular mitosis in which duplicated chromosomes self-assemble into two daughter cells," countered Guhathakurta.

I am beginning to like these new NASA scientists.... my kinda people

I bet Mr Furry will like this one too..

Magnetic Trilobite

Funny I seem to recall John making mention of strange happenings on the sun

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