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Originally posted by b309302
Funny thing about those pictures... look closely. Stars streaking. Time lapse photography. So thats not a stationary object. It's a blur of whatever crossed the camera during the exposure time. Judging by the length of the stars, that was a long aperature opening. Could be anything. The other thing I noticed is that it seems to have sharp edges. How do you get sharp edges on a moving object with time lapse photography? Sounds suspicious... How is something only visible in IR? Even if it was, there are a ton of IR telescopes on Earth owned by civilians. once again, no one else can see it.
Originally posted by internos
The focus was on iapetus. Please, answer to this qustion: WHY Iapetus appears blur? Shouldn't appear elongated due the exposition time?
There are billion of pics in whic certains planets appears as a dot, certains others as a stripe. We cannot explain it as effect of the exposure. It's the NEAREST object in the pic. Besides, why it doesnt appear elongated, ie as a cylinder?
Originally posted by Beachcoma
May I offer my opinion? Since the Cassini probe is moving in orbit around Saturn, but at the same time focused on Iapetus, it would make sense that the moon stays in the centre of the photo, while the stars in the background get elongated through the exposure.
This would explain the blurriness of the moon, since it's given a long exposure but the angle that the moon is photographed from changes. Since the moon is pretty spherical, as long as the distance is the same and the focus remains at the centre of the circle, the object will still retain its circular shape, albeit blurred out.
Does this sound reasonable?
And i agree. I should show you more pics of the same object, and i can't, so i can prove nothing.
Originally posted by b309302
The odd protustions on an asteroid would make a picture identical to the one you showed as proof of it not being one =) The fact that it is not a "straight" line throughout the picture only furthers my argument of an irregular shape object tumbling in a long exposure. A tumbling asteroid with random vector and rotation would produce a picture where parts are bigger and smaller throughout the frame as larger protusions rotated into view and dissapeared. We can go round and round about how aliens can magically invent any device to counter any logical arguments, but fact is, you can't prove it's not, I can't prove it is. Given the two solutions... UFO or asteroid, with no discernable evidence for either... I'll pick the asteroid until there is better proof. It's all speculation. You have some really good logical arguments though. I like it when people argue with reason rather then..well because I said so. I think were in a stalemate, all part of the fun =)
Originally posted by b309302
There is one big problem with this. Saturn isn't that far. Any cheap telescope can see saturn and it's moons just fine. All of the astronomers on Earth just "missed" this extra moon the size of Earth? All except NASA... Just please explain why no one else except NASA can see this if it should be so plainly visible to anyone with a telescope. Also, things going really fast in front of a camera...blur, I.E. meteors and such.
[edit on 19-9-2007 by b309302]
Originally posted by bergle
I seem to recall a Hubble picture of some kind of object in intergalactic space which was never furthur explained or folowed up .......
It was a odd lump of a thing but definately way out there where it had no business to be....
A paper titled "The Lucifer Project" has recently emerged which claims that NASA is very likely to deliberately direct the Cassini space probe into Saturn's dense atmosphere where it will destruct. This is to take place soon after the termination of Cassini's four year monitoring mission in June 2008 when Cassini is in a polar orbit of Saturn (see: www.rinf.com... ). The paper's author contends this will be a secret effort to use the Cassini's plutonium fuel rods as a fission device to generate a runaway nuclear fusion process on Saturn that would trigger the emergence of a new sun. The new sun would enable the moons of Saturn to be heated possibly making them suitable for colonization and other uses by humanity. On the other hand, the creation of a new sun would generate a shock wave of hydrogen and other particles that could have devastating effects on Earth. In order to fully evaluate the radical views presented in "The Lucifer Project" it is best to begin with Richard Hoagland's analysis of the Galileo space probe's controlled descent into Jupiter's equatorial region in 2003 where it was destroyed in a similar manner to what is projected for Cassini (see: www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html ).
Originally posted by Atticus_Black
It says that one of the objects is four times the size of earth, now if my memory's correct Jupiter is 10 times larger than the earth so that would mean that one of the objects would be half the size of Jupiter
I certainly cant see that big an object in the photo. But i might be wrong!
Originally posted by bigbert81
The ship's length is about 1/3 the diameter of Jupiter. Massive. The damn thing must have a gravitational pull of it's own.
“This is a very strange feature, lying in a precise geometric fashion with six nearly equally straight sides,” said Kevin Baines, atmospheric expert and member of Cassini’s visual and infrared mapping spectrometer (VIMS) team at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California. “We’ve never seen anything like this on any other planet. Indeed, Saturn’s thick atmosphere where circularly-shaped waves and convective cells dominate is perhaps the last place you’d expect to see such a six-sided geometric figure, yet there it is.”