Hi All,

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but wouldn't one expect to see a considerable amount of scattering of dust and material in the ring plane caused by the huge gravitational fields of these veihicles? Certainly some purtubation of the shepherd moons?

I'm equally curious about the rock drawing in the article. Anyone know where that came from?

Originally posted by Beachcoma

Well, if you guys can speculate that the vague blurry objects are alien spacecraft, couldn't you speculate why they're making those rings?

[sarcasm] How dare you come in here with common sense and reason. [/sarcasm]

Originally posted by internos
I don't know what is it, but it's clear that there's TRAFFIC there....

Yeah, definitely a real object. But I'd like to get this out there: this should in no way be construed as a "cylinder" or "cigar-shaped". The length of it is probably motion blur from shutter exposures. A line does not imply a cylinder.

Secondly, though it may appear to not move perfectly straight, it probably IS moving perfectly naturally and straight but the probe taking the photos may be adjusting its angle, etc. The object in question is likely much closer and smaller than Saturn, hence parallax would explain any motion that's not noticed in the rings themselves.

Anyway, I don't see any indication of this thing being a "craft".

Originally posted by Sophismata

Yeah, definitely a real object. But I'd like to get this out there: this should in no way be construed as a "cylinder" or "cigar-shaped". The length of it is probably motion blur from shutter exposures. A line does not imply a cylinder.

Secondly, though it may appear to not move perfectly straight, it probably IS moving perfectly naturally and straight but the probe taking the photos may be adjusting its angle, etc. The object in question is likely much closer and smaller than Saturn, hence parallax would explain any motion that's not noticed in the rings themselves.

Anyway, I don't see any indication of this thing being a "craft".

Thanks for the post Sophismata. Just reading your post and in between the lines of your post and I thought you might be happier over at Bad Astronomy where you might be more appreciated. Thanks again.

Originally posted by Sophismata

Originally posted by internos
I don't know what is it, but it's clear that there's TRAFFIC there....

Yeah, definitely a real object. But I'd like to get this out there: this should in no way be construed as a "cylinder" or "cigar-shaped". The length of it is probably motion blur from shutter exposures. A line does not imply a cylinder.

Secondly, though it may appear to not move perfectly straight, it probably IS moving perfectly naturally and straight but the probe taking the photos may be adjusting its angle, etc. The object in question is likely much closer and smaller than Saturn, hence parallax would explain any motion that's not noticed in the rings themselves.

Anyway, I don't see any indication of this thing being a "craft".

What we should wonder is What it is.

IMHO, this does not look to be an effect due to exposure time, / motion blur: this is a SOLID object which deserves further investigations.

for instance, if the motion blur theory was correct, the object should look grossly so:




[edit on 14/9/2007 by internos]

Originally posted by not_fazed
City ships inhabited by entire races, or even just ships inhabited by beings much, much larger than ourselves?

You'd better believe it.

As per the Bible ..

"There were Giants in those days." Offspring of Angel (Alien) and Woman.

It is written that they ate Human Flesh. So it seems to me that evil Angels as depicted in the Bible, those who rebelled, would be large as well, at least in their natural form, im sure they can shift size for purposes of .. intercourse, hehe.

Now it seems kind of odd that these cigar shaped things have been showing up with much greater frequency in the recent years. Before it was just saucer shaped ones .. with a very rare cigar one. Now all the newest, most believable pics are all cigar shaped ones.

And they estimate the size as possibly larger than Earth by a couple of TIMES? Yikes. Why are such large craft out there? Could it be that they do not have a homeworld, or that the homeworld is so far away that they have to sustain themselves for entire lifetimes aboard gigantic space barges?

I for one hope Heaven is a massively gigantic plant a thousand times larger than Earth, with a perfect eco-system and atmosphere and weather, and these giant cigar ufos are coming to take the Faithful away before they start pouring God's wrath on the unsuspecting evil people of Earth, as it is written.

144,000 chosen. protons/electrons always cause explosions (peace)

[edit on 9/14/2007 by runetang]

Originally posted by johnlear
Thanks for the post Sophismata. Just reading your post and in between the lines of your post and I thought you might be happier over at Bad Astronomy where you might be more appreciated. Thanks again.

Man that forum is horrible. Some of the most close minded, ignorant, knowitall people who can explain anything away as ice crystals and swamp gas. Theres only one forum that I've ever hated, and thats it. Arrogance and 100 year old science books are their fortay.

Damn internos, AWESOME PICTURES MAN!!!!!!!!! Its clear as day.

Hey debunkers.......im sure its a balloon or a kite!

And here's an enlargement of the object. Found and sharpened the edges and then solarized it. Looks like we've got something here, what? This one would be more than Earth diameter!!



Did you notice the resemblance to that HST infrared image in the opening post? Hmmm...Now this is getting more interesting!!

Cheers!



[edit on 15-9-2007 by mikesingh]

yes the bible said when jesus returns from the clouds, hes going to send his angels before him and people are going to fall dead of heart attacks from what they see in the sky, and hes going to clean up the earth to establish his new world, thats why its a national security issue, as margaret thatcher said "we cant tell the people"

Wow just amazing .. thank You for the find ! With all the tech beeing made aviable to us in the recent times its just a matter of time for somebody to find something so hard to debunk that they wont be able to cover it up
Thank You again , I am starting to fall in love in this forum

Could it be dust,meteor or a comet? Any of these things will make a trail in video at high speed. In the video that is provided you see more than the object in question doing the same thing. I'm not a debunker so save your breath but I do like to look at both sides getting caught up in "it's the got to be a spaceship" ordeal.

Awesome new pictures. Any professional astronomers out there to provide insights?