Agent Violet i kinda see where you are coming from and although i despise the man for his supposed actions i have to commend him for standing up for what he believes and evading capture for so long.

That said this doesnt mean i support any of his views whatsoever definitely far from it but i do agree with you slightly

Originally posted by agent violet
Amongst other things, he has a great deal of bravery and remarkable leadership. In my opinion he also posesses a vast amount of loyalty to his followers, and I view him as being highly honorable.

What? You consider it honorable to ill 3,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE?

I wonder if you will feel that way when this murdering piece of waste murders someone close to you? Will you still give him the despicable verbal tongue bath you gave him today?

It is hard to describe how little respect I have for anyone who would write what you have written.

All right, we are not going to let this thread degenerate into a flame fest because someone has a different viewpoint. M'kay?

Night watchmen, I value your opinion and contribution. With that said, I can assure you that there are far worse 'terrorists' in the world than Mr Bin Laden.

I think that the actions of UBL and his agents are cowardly. They prefer bombs and often target innocent people. I don't see how you can consider this piece of crap someone to look up to.

Agent Violet, you might want to look into the form of Islam practiced by UBL and see how women fit into that picture.

I sincerely hope that someday, UBL is mortally wounded in a bomb attack so he has time to refleck on all the pain that he has caused.

I will never submit to his religion because I have no respect for the followers of his version of Islam.

nightwatchman, not all that are blind cannot see.

wildbob, I am very much aware of many Islamic practices, thankyou.

As far as the tape goes, it is possible that Bin Laden himself did not write the speech. In fact, he may have simply read what was pre-written from a source(s) close to him.

nightwatchman, I can assure you that I am far incapable of acting in a terroristic fashion at the moment.

Also, the tape itself may be combined with new material and old material alike. There may also be a threat that is embedded in the tape's audio/video as well.

Ok guys, the topic please. And the last I looked ATS members wasn't it.

fox mulder posted: "You're really not gonna make many friends if you keep talking like this"
my response is: My intentions here are not to make friends, but rather to state my opinions and views on topics that I find are of interest.

Also, on the tape bin laden makes little to no movements. Even his eyes ever so barely move. His left arm makes no movement whatsoever I believe. So to me, that leads me to believe that there are not any visible signs being given through the means of bodily movements. Perhaps the signal is in fact the change in the color of his beard, as was previously mentioned. Overall I dont believe that the signal is through body movements because there is in fact an overall lack of movement from him.


edit to add: my apology on the mistake nightwatchman.


[edit on 9/7/2007 by agent violet]

Originally posted by agent violet
Also, on the tape bin laden makes littles to no movements. Even his eyes ever so barely move. His left are make no movement whatsoever I believe. So to me, that leads me to believe that there are not any visible signs being given through the means of bodily movements. Perhaps the signal is in fact the change in the color of his beard, as was previously mentioned. Overall I dont believe that the signal is through body movements because there is in fact an overall lack of movement from him.

I was taught in a speech class long ago not to shuffle around too much or move around. Maybe hes got that kind of education. Heck look at his videos and you never once see him dancing while giving a speech.

Originally posted by agent violet
nightwatchmen posted: "You're really not gonna make many friends if you keep talking like this"
my response is: My intentions here are not to make friends, but rather to state my opinions and views on topics that I find are of interest.






[edit on 9/7/2007 by agent violet]

I never wrote that AV. I think you may be confusing me with someone else. Clearly you arent trying to make friends...you may have noticed that I'm not either.

Still... I have to wonder how anyone can call Bin Laden a hero...I hope he and everyone of his children die slow painful deaths. I'd gladly do the deed myself.

i like the beard theory right now...

thats a FAST way to get it out...i mean, even if the gov decided it was whatever and would only show a still image, all they would need to see is the beard....go/no go