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Osama Bin Laden Video Discussion and Updates

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posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 08:59 AM
I'm not so sure of the fear angle. People largely seem to regard Bin Laden as a whiny little pansy with a micropenis rather than a modern threat to America. The fear component seems rattled when radical Muslims plow their cars through crowds of people or have a large prayer session before getting on an airplane. It's actions that creates mass fear, not some talking head that looks like he smells bad.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:01 AM
reply to post by UM_Gazz

If he is an ATS member, he'd be as far-removed from himself as possible. Think about it. He could "become" a patriot who hates Osama Bin Laden, or a nancy Liberal who believes that not all Muslims are terrorists. He could be anyone on this site. Though I concede it's probebly unlikely. Broadband isn't installed in the mountains yet, and OBL probebly hates waiting on dial-up. He is up all night you know...downloading porn.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:04 AM
How does Osama's blackbeard compare to this historical figure..

"Blackbeard was the most notorious pirate in the history of seafaring. With a beard that almost covered his face, he would strike terror into the hearts of his victims, according to some early accounts, by weaving wicks laced with gunpowder into his hair, and lighting them during battle. A big man, he added to his menacing appearance by wearing a crimson coat, two swords at his waist, and bandoleers stuffed with numerous pistols and knives across his chest.

The sight of Blackbeard was enough to make most of his victims surrender without a fight. If they gave up peacefully, he would usually take their valuables, navigational instruments, weapons, and rum before allowing them to sail away. If they resisted, he would often maroon the crews and burn their ship. Blackbeard worked hard at establishing his devilish image, but there is no archival evidence to indicate that he ever killed anyone who was not trying to kill him.


Does Osama scare you?

[edit on 8-9-2007 by UM_Gazz]

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:13 AM
I believe this video is a signal for an attack.

His conversion to Islam should be sending off alarms, meanwhile we debate this and that about the video.

I don't know when the attack will be, but it will be sooner rather than later. I don't think the recent incident in Germany was the attack, something else is in the works, just a gut feeling!

The darkening of his beard his odd, it may or may not be a some kind of signal for sleeper cells to activate the countdown?

I think we are asleep at the switch again, worring about Iraq and the financial crisis!

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:18 AM
reply to post by apc

We do not fear this man in the video. I have to agree he does look like he smells horrific.

We fear each other and what is going to happen. Why else is there so much hostility and anger and frustration and raw emotion in this thread?

The media has taught us how to mistrust each other and alienate ourselves so that when this event does happen sisters will turn on their brothers and vice-versa.

My belief is that it is not UBL, really why would they need the real man anyways to accomplish what needs to be done. It is an obvious attempt to cover what is to come and to create a group of individuals in our country who appear sympothetic to terrorists, by agreeing with the man, and in turn become the enemy when Bush declares martial law.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:21 AM

Originally posted by agent violet
Amongst other things, he has a great deal of bravery and remarkable leadership. In my opinion he also posesses a vast amount of loyalty to his followers, and I view him as being highly honorable.

If you'd understood his history you will see its just a spoiled rich guy from a rich family. Infact in Afghanistan during the 80's nobody there was waiting for these Arabic jihadi's specially not OBL.He didnt achieved anything military against the Russians and the mudjahedien actually asked him to leave the country since he was no soldier and had no military experience..[Lawrence Wright wrote a book about his field trip to Afghanistan]
Now he has a safe haven in those areas because of his budget, they could use it, 9/11 was brilliant though but this man himself didnt accomplished a lot of victories in his life..
The video is interesting, there must be some signals cause something stinks about this one, maybe the black beard tells: Once you go black you never go back
he havent found any signals in his verbal messages yet..

[edit on 8-9-2007 by Foppezao]

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:37 AM
Osama seems to echo the positions of some of the most persuasive voices of dissent in the West. Is this a coincidence?

Once again his timing seems to be perfect as a distraction from, and in reality, supportive of all the problems the current administration is facing. Including trying to rally support for an attack on Iran.

It is at times like these that I dream of a new energy policy!! Ahh free or nearly free energy for all...very doable but unfortunately not profitable...yet?

On another note: Would a pretty face draw me out if I were a radical?? Only the agents on this board know the answer to that question.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:37 AM

Originally posted by mel1962
The darkening of his beard his odd, it may or may not be a some kind of signal for sleeper cells to activate the countdown?

Great thought. Given the western world view of appearance and obsession with looks, may be the thought was it would be seen in that light or proof it is a fake. While people talk about those points the real purpose is to be a signal.

Ii seems as valid as in other reason in my book.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:39 AM

Originally posted by mel1962
I believe this video is a signal for an attack.

If this video message is indeed a signal to attack, and IF there is a major terrorist attack in the USA in the near future that can be somehow linked to this video message.

Who or what country will the United States target for retaliation?

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:53 AM
reply to post by SmokeyJo

i have to go back cause i am only on page 12 but i fond certain posts like this pretty silly.

"i didn't know they had black hair dye in caves"

are you serious?
i mean, dude has money. dude has friends....i'm sure in afghanistan, it's not hard to get yor hands on some hair dye...

the weight thing.....people do lose and gain do know that right?
i think a lot of people dig far too deep, damn near wanting to find differences.

is it reasonable to assume that OBL gets medical treatment?
does maybe he takes something that is causing him to retain weight. maybe he is dad had liver cancer and before he got thin, he got thick.

i just don't get could change a hell of a lot in 3 years....

i look at pics of myself from last year, 2 years ago and i see myself thinner now than i was a year ago and then 3 years ago i was thicker than i was 2 years ago....
know what i mean?

i have a full beard now but if i trim it, tomorrow i won't.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:04 AM

Originally posted by apc

There was totally a hidden message though. Didn't anyone catch it?

"One hand washes the other."
and all the Jihadists went,
"I fear nothing!"

Are you saying he said that? Because I can't find it.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:07 AM
Will somebody please explain why in the last 40 seconds of the video clip, Usama freezes in place yet you continue to hear him speak while the video continues translating and running?!?!?!! It is not computer lag either. In all honesty I think this is either an old video or a body double. He looks 20 years younger, much healthier, and his beard is no longer with grey streaks!! This is a man who was supposed to be dying on dialysis.
Just because "U.S officials" tell you that its an authentic video, does that make it true? Didn't "U.S officials" release the video to us, and countless other frauds?? (Dont forget the last one, where Wired employees found the Office of War Information watermark and terrorist watermark were placed on the video by the same party at the same time)
Agent Violet, you should really read up on your hero's history. He is not a savior of Islam, he is a puppet boogey man who is a member of the most powerful Arab family, next to the House of Saud. Do you even know how closely linked our president's family is to the Bin Ladens?? George H.W Bush is employed by them, and when 911 happened they were in a New York meeting together for the Carlyle group. Usama met with a CIA section chief just weeks before 911, while he was on the most wanted list. Bush ordered the FBI off of his trail when he was determined to be a threat. It just does not end.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:12 AM
reply to post by UM_Gazz

Iran, no doubt. Aren't they in the cross-hairs already?

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:12 AM
one of my more out there theories is OBL has been in the US since BEFORE the attacks....before the attakcs, security was pretty lax...if he shaved his beard off and wore jeans and a t shirt that said ac/dc or something and went to the airport in early 01, nobody would have known who he was.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:19 AM

Originally posted by rxnnxs
also if we would believe in god and act as the bible says, there would not happen such a crime.

That's not exactly true...

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:20 AM
that is blatantly the worst video impersonation ever. Someone is really taking the piss with this one.

[edit on 8-9-2007 by arclore]

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:21 AM
One thing that always gets me about these supposed "new" tapes is that usually the "recent events" are pretty predictable.

Ok ... so how hard is it to make 2 tapes, one referring to each outcome of a two-person election? Or two party election?

Just something to think about ...

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:29 AM
Look a hal turners latest news article. I know hes a racist, but his website has some chilling stuff on it.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:32 AM
The full version of the 25 minute OBL video has been released.

Here is a link to it.

It's my understanding that the video will be added to the OP of this thread.


[edit on 9/8/07 by makeitso]

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 10:36 AM
Hey Everybody at ATS...

Is everybody doing ok after reading the WHOLE text (Wich you should if you choose to be well informed!!!) of the great OBL...

I just finnished it and without taking sides... This man is saying some strange but 'good' things... It seems that he's almost a member of ATS... lol...
Serious, if this is his true message, i feel obliged to say that i can follow his points of view.
It doesn't seem that he's out for war, but just wants to give some information about the views of Islam on the world today...

It kinda felt right what he was saying...
Can't wait for his next message...

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