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Former Area 51 employee.

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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 07:40 AM
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Hi guys, long time lurker here, first time poster. I saw another post the other day about somone on Youtube that claims he is a Area 51 employee. I don't know anything about his claim or how legit he is, but it made me want to post this info and question.

First off, I am not an employee of area 51, but I do know a former employee, and would like to know how to procede with him.

I would like to stay anonomous for now as I don't want an repercussions (sp?) to come back on to this person. I actually don't think anything would happen, but better safe than sorry. Plus, I will probably give enough clues that somone will figure out who I am and wehre I work anyway, you guys are good like that.


I work for a fortune 500 company, in the research facility. There are probably over 1000 scientists that work here, I am not one of them. I am a lowley Tech, that supports computers connected to lab equipment, robotic controls, image aquisition, etc... The department I work in is sort of like IT, but seperate from the main IT department.

Enough about me. One of the fellas that works in another department used to work at Area 51, Groom Lake, Nellis, whatever you want to call it. I was told this by another worker in his department. He is a middle aged fella, probably early 50s, and kind of strange. When I asked him myself about this he just kind of nodded, and did not say much more. This is not a person that I know real well, or even see every day. This incident also happened about a year ago, so details are fuzzy now, but it made me curious, of course I have always been curious about UFOs and such. I worked with him over a couple of days to resolve some computer issues he had in his lab, during this time his coworker (who I know much better), would joke with him about aliens, and how he realy was one and was part of the agenda. He just kind of shrugged it off with a laugh. He did not seem willing to talk about much about what he did there or anything. He did tell some stories about other places/ and bases he had been, but they were vague. He did mention that he went out to Las Vegas a couple of years ago, and took his son (around 16 at the time I think he said) for a drive by one of the dirt entrance roads to the base, and he said his sonewas underwhelmed. It was almost like he was saying "if only he knew what was there."

A couple of conclusions I have made.

He is not a Dr. or scientist, although he is well educated and is a lab tech in his current job.

By his reactions, I don't think that he ever saw anything 'alien' there, then again he could be good at covering it up.

I don't think he was ever in a military branch, he just does not seem to be that type. He is a short, frail kind of goofy guy. So I think he must have been a contractor of some sort.

It must have been years ago, maybe in the 80's that he worked there, as it seemed to be before his son.

Anone have any opinions on how to further apporach him on the subject, maybe get him to open up a little more? I don't know him real well, and just don't want to come out and ask.




posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 07:51 AM
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I doubt you'll get him to open up more. The repercussions for "talking" are quite severe...not just for Area 51, but for any secrets.

For the sake of the argument, though, I'd think the best way to get info from him, is to do it in a roundabout way. Don't directly ask him questions, because he's not going to answer you. You need to think of questions that are vague enough that you could get little bits of info out of him at a time...it's gonna end up being like an I.V. drip of info. As far as what questions to actually ask? I have no idea...maybe asking things like, "Do you believe there's extraterrestrials out there?" instead of "Have you seen ET's?" Then kinda glean what you can out of what he responds with, and how he responds. I doubt you'll get any sort of clear answer, but maybe over time you can piece together bits and pieces of what he tells you to make a whole...kinda like a puzzle.

That's my suggestion...whether it'd work or not? Who knows...but I do know that if the guy isn't willing to talk directly about it, nothing you say or do will make him do so. it'd be ALL on his terms if/when it happened.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 08:01 AM
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I seriously doubt you will ever get him to talk about it, When working at any of these type of facility's, groom lake, area 51, D.U.M.B.'s they sign documents that if any information is ever given out, they will be inprisoned for life. If you research this subject you will find there are a few that have spoken out. Several have been murdered, others are in Canada, protected by Canadian law. Its very interesting once you start digging deep. John Lear is one of the most educated people on these subject, he can answer alot of questions about this for you also. Also there are video's on google and youtube that you can research, check out Phil Schneider and Bill Cooper.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 01:08 PM
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You can leave someone else to do it, someone they may trust more probably. I do not know, neverever been involved, and only look at the threads here on this forum, and there are some really good threads here.

There is where you go first, to look at the threads and what other people have written down in response to the threads.

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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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I don't really have any advice for you. But I will say that most of the people who actually work(ed) there don't even reveal secrets to their own spouces or children, let alone a relative stranger. The risks far outweigh the rewards. Our government does their best to entrust secrets to the kind of folks that they are confident will never blab those secrets. And they do their best to let these people know in very subtle ways that revealing those secrets is not good for their well-being or the well-being of their families!

I guess my only advice, which was touched on by someone else, would be to approach that friend of his that you mentioned. Tell him your interests, and ask him if the guy has ever told him any stories. Either way, see if you can get him to ask the guy some questions for you and find out what he says. Other than that, I really can't see this guy blabbing any legitimate secrets to you just for the sake of satisfying your personal curiosity. Obviously the guy is intelligent, as you said, and it would take a complete moron to reveal any secrets they know to some co-worker that they really don't know at all.

Of course, this is all under the assumption that this guy did legitimately work at "Area 51" and that you're not just having your leg pulled. This also assumes that in addition to working there, that he is in posession of interesting secrets with regards to UFO's. Because I would venture to guess that the overwhelming majority of civilian employees at Area 51 have never even seen an alien or UFO, and aren't in posession of any top secret alien information. The government tends to keep that stuff very compartmentalized and its on a need-to-know basis. One would have to jump through a lot of hoops to be able to gain the clearance that would make them privy to such information, aside from "accidentally" stumbling on it during the course of their work there. I'm sure most of the people that work there have some funny stories or have seen some strange and/or unexplainable things, but I doubt its anything earth-shattering for the majority of them. Just my two cents!



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 01:47 PM
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Sounds like your friend is approaching this from a poor angle.
You cant embarrass or harass information out of someone successfully. So , You could use that to your advantage, start the conversation by telling him how you thought about your friends attitude towards something as serious as having worked at area 51.
Then I believe honesty is the best policy and you could ask him to tell you what if anything interesting may have happened to him or others while working at the facility. You can add that he does not have to answer right now , but at some point if he would like to talk you would love to hear what he has to say.
A lot of people are coming forward with little bits and pieces from their time at 51, and it could be that he has nothing interesting to add, but then then again he could. Be up front and honest and if there is anything he has to offer, why not tell you? Above all be honest and sincere. Best of luck to you and keep us informed.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Rasputin13
they do their best to let these people know in very subtle ways that revealing those secrets is not good for their well-being or the well-being of their families!


Just for the record...it's not subtle at all. When they "read you out", they straight up tell you what's going to happen if you talk. Lets just say it's in the persons best interest not to talk...or if they DO talk, they better be EXTREMELY careful about it.


Because I would venture to guess that the overwhelming majority of civilian employees at Area 51 have never even seen an alien or UFO, and aren't in posession of any top secret alien information. The government tends to keep that stuff very compartmentalized and its on a need-to-know basis.


You'd be surprised, I think. As long as the government deems the person trustworthy, it doesn't really matter if they're civilian or military. In fact, there are more and more civilians being hired by the military every year. It wouldn't surprise me at all if some of the top "Heads" are civilians.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by Jaruseleh]



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 02:24 PM
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Id probably never ask directly or reveal that I want classified information. Instead Id arrange to get to know him better or spend time with him. If he gets drunk in your presence he might spill some stuff out by himself...without you EVER having mentioned any interest in the subject.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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If he is really harbouring some deep secrets he is not going to fall for your attempts to gain information. He is not even going to fall for "hey, you believe there is intelligent life out there?". thats easy to see through.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 02:37 PM
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The best thing I have learned to do is keep my mouth shut and ears "open". I have overheard more things than if I had asked and hinted around about a subject.

Cheers!



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 02:37 PM
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He is not even going to fall for "hey, you believe there is intelligent life out there?". thats easy to see through.



true....I was just using that line as an example. It'd have to be REALLY roundabout. Really obscure...I'm not even sure if I'm smart enough to do that. lol that's why I said any info you DID get from him would be like a bit here, and bit there until you have a byte...then a few more bits here and there 'til you have a word (using computer terms)...so on and so forth, and eventually you'd have enough info to make something coherant...it'd take a lot of time, a lot of thought, and a lot of effort, but that's about the only way I can think of getting someone to "talk" that doesn't want to, or doesn't intend to.

Also, the above suggestion of getting him drunk would probably help too. haha


[edit on 7-9-2007 by Jaruseleh]



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 02:43 PM
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yeah...something really roundabout. heres an idea:

"hey...we have something in common"

him: "yeah?"

"Yeah. I work for a government facility too".

him: "oh, thats interesting".


5 weeks later

him: "so, what facility do you work for?"

"Im not supposed to talk about it really."

him: "Well, me neither. so, why dont we get together some time?"

"I guess we could".



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 04:23 PM
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The best stories I have heard from some of my buddies that have clearances have been after a couple of drinks, unfortunately none of them involve UFO's, but they work with some pretty cool stuff in the military.

So my advice, take him to a bar. Lol!

[edit on 7-9-2007 by Bunch]



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 06:11 PM
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Thanks for all of the ideas and info guys. Like I said, I realy don't know the guy well, so I don't just want to come out and ask. He may concider it harrasment or something and go to HR. I know his coworker better, although he has moved to a diffrent position, in a diffrent department. I will try asking him some more questions, as I think he may have opend up a little bit more to him.

Man, this is getting confusing, just to keep things straight, lets call the former employee Jack, and his coworker, that I know better, Bob.

Anyway, I will try working on Bob a little next week, and see if Jack opened up to him any more. He must have to some degree as Bob knew Jack worked there.

Oh, I also asked Bob at a later point if Jack really worked there, and he said that he believed he did. I don't think Bob would pull my leg on this, we were both verry serious at the the time.



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 02:17 AM
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Try to spend as much time with him talking about your work as much as possible. I wouldn't ask any questions on A51 etc, seeking that type of info may make you seem untrustworthy, but try to make a long term plan to get drunk with him.



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