Contacting Demons, page 7

Well, I've never bought the way Christianity teaches about demons or fallen angels. As if a part of the whole, Lucifer, decided one day to oppose the Whole and thought he had a chance of winning. That defied logic. Up until my experience I didn't know whether I even believed in anything beyond a kind of psi poltergiest negative energy that we may be creating in our traumas. After the experience I explored as many possible answers as I could that made more sense.

One possibility, but not necessarily the right one, is that in order to encourage evolution and growth which happens best through problems, perhaps some angels volunteered to play the bad guy roles for dualism's sake, and the light was literally taken from them so they play the role for real. But one day it will be restored. Have no idea.

Then again, perhaps only a few angels stay with God, and the rest are kicked out of their home like we are, to live by faith and God oversees us attempting to run creation in various stages of development (we're pretty low on the scale here on earth going through more base lessons such as survival, greed versus sharing, etc). Perhaps in this scenario some of the angels actually started doing things wrong and ended up gradually experiencing less and less light until they're pretty mixed up, and humans and ets also ended in this lower place. Those are actually the only 2 I could think of.

But, I believe that the nazis, who researched some of the natural vortexes and were very interested in occult practices, and who came into the US via project paperclip, may have been quite instrumental in opening gateways. Such as this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com... Lower dimensionals may be amongst us in seemingly human form. We need to preserve our love and the balance towards goodness.

There may be a link between the renegades that are reported to work with the cabal amongst the ets that are visiting. Many report interdimensional ets, versus timelines. Now I believe the ets working grass roots with the people are positive and are not demons, but..... I do wonder at what the black ops and cabal have been up to.

www.coasttocoastam.com...

Having read many occult texts I was caught by Stephen's description of these "longwalkers" and other "creatures" said to exist in underground incubatoriums at such places as Area 51. This was interesting because I had just that day been shown some photos of an area approximately 60 mi. WNW of Area 51 where there exists a large Star of David-like design (Fig. 1) in the Earth. Approximately 15 mi. N of the star design is a triangle design (Fig. 2) which contains concentric circles.

Compare these images with the "magic circle and triangle" (Fig. 3) from page 70 of a book called The Goetia edited by S.L. MacGregor Mathers. The Goetia is the first part of a 17th century Ms. titled The Lesser Key of Solomon the King and it deals with the summoning of "demons". The idea was that a magician stood inside the circle and summoned the demons inside the triangle where they were bound and could not escape. Two of these 72 demons, or "Jinn" as they are sometimes called, are pictured here (Figs.5 & 6). Now, I've never seen a "trans-genic" anything, but these certainly look like they could fit the bill!

reply to post by Blueangel7

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Wow... Why is a Angel doing with 20 years at demonic activity? If you do not want everybody to know, you could send me a U2U. Thanks.

reply to post by Tom Bedlam

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Sure, tell your demon I said it was scurred little hairy # nugget of a parasite that it can come # with me if it wants to actually have some fun. I'm sure you wouldn't try to antagonize it yourself, but i've particularly put it out there just begging for some "demon" to teach me my lesson, just so I can have something to believe in..... and nothing ever comes to me, which for a nighttime-forest walker you'd think something might # with me, but nu.

I've played with a ouiji board alone enough times, pretty much done allt he metaphorical "bloody marry in the pitch black bathroom" in any way I can find. Which either leaves me wondering if there scared of me. Which to tell the truth all the general energy manipulation studying i've done, humans shouldn't necessarily always be on the loosing end of any kind of fight. I'm just waiting for a poltergeist to throw some # around my room just to remove a few kind of "doubts" in my head. To tell the truth.... it would be a blessing for me to see something in my room just levitate, fly across the room and smash....... cause the moment I see that happen a little switch in my head would pop over and I'd likely become something quite dangerous. Sadly I cannot logically feel 100% about anything that i've not seen/experienced for it self, thus I do not have the faith required. Used to be the street lights only fluttered on and off at night when i'd go near them, which I didn't think much of, until recently when it started happening during the day.

I really feel bad for those who are actually experiencing real occurrences of the paranormal, but at the same time you gotta wonder if people like me can be so blatantly offensive towards those forces, and go completely unscathed despite putting themselves directly in the worst circumstances. I'm not even all that religious, I take pride in how easily I can poke holes in there logic and incredibility. I always figured that it would make me an easy target for the "demons" but then again..... I don't spend my entire life asking a god to fix the problems in the world and in my life..... I've always been one with the "I can do whatever I put my mind to" mindset

As for all these personal experiences I keep reading about; girlfriend acting like a spaz after partying,gee did any drinking happen at party? I've never been one to forget what happens on the nights that I drink heavily, but i know plenty of other drinkers that do, and usually they are the "attention whore" types who of course do not want to admit acting like a childish twat when they were under the influence. And as for going to the career "psychic"..... Idk..... the scientist in me just really wants to poke at all the different possibilities of fraud that go on..... to doubt that people are capable of being able to pull of the stunts, and actually lie to straight to your face about stuff your actually having problems with..... is just asanine and naive.

I really love the paranormal and anything close to it..... but there is now way I will let myself get pulled in based on what others have seen...... because I know my perception is never at its best, and because i've seen some creepy # that turned out to be nothing...... # happens

I remember when my mom told me about her "experiences" with the ouiji board, plenty of them were scary detailed stories..... of course later down the road I got her to admit that she just made that # up. Pretty much I act like a twat just like that one dude from that fake movie paranormal activity; if something random happened... I'd call it out tell it to confront me.... and nothing will ever happen, thus why I don't have to live scared like so many people with "experiences" have to..... the monster under the bed will always be there if you never look, it won't be till you look that you'll get any rest. People who prey on others generally tend to prey on those who cower and don't resist.

My life has been to enriched for me to even think that demons would # with me indirectly by just trying to # my life. Sure occasionally we have to fix the car that I rape with my pizza delivery job..... but last time I checked I've managed to become surrounded by a great crowd of diverse yet similiar friends, sickness barely does more than make my throat sore and my nose stuffy. I've even been lucky enough to have gone through life without a broken bone despite all the sports/general stupid little kid # that I did. I could go on and on how life has managed to give me what I need, as I watch the rest of the world #ting itself in self-destruction and mayhem (wars, floods, earthquakes, murder and rape of the innocent), but I think I've made my point.

So for all of those who keep having to put up with malevolent forces, send em my way, whenever you see/hear something follow it up with "why are you bothering me, why don't go bug that one kid that doubts and insults your existence". I used to be a nightwalker of a lot of placed normally considered quite eerie.....either i'm being protected, I'm eminating a force of my own, or we are trully alone (physical beings anyways). XD i'm not even in my oppinion worth protection by any "higher" beings, with all the things i've done and the rules i've broken.

Im kind of jealous that you guys are able to see something to give you faith in another plane of existence..... that something you should be great-full of. Any who I'm good on speaking on my experiences and feelings on the topic. If anyone can give me a sure-fire way that can help me have an actual experience, I would be eternally great-full and would be more than happy to try and compensate such a nice gesture by sharing any deep revelations I would be certain to experience, or even a free gift via my leather crafting.

Sweet dreams and may your research help you find whatever you may be looking for.

Originally posted by Griff
reply to post by ChilledVoodoo

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Dark forces should be respected.

My thoughts exactly, there are just some things that you shouldn't mess with, and I think a Demon would probably be on the top of that list.

Originally posted by EL1A5

Originally posted by Griff
reply to post by ChilledVoodoo

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Dark forces should be respected.

My thoughts exactly, there are just some things that you shouldn't mess with, and I think a Demon would probably be on the top of that list.

Everything to an extent deserves respect, forces and other. Its to bad people spend more time being afraid of other forces as opposed to developing their own.... demons.... lol Like I said before, i've done practically all the metaphorical "bloody mary/ouji board by yourself" kinds of things, to the point that I could not see a genuinely egotistical malevolent creature not wanting to just play with me if not just for a second to laugh at me as I fall on my ass...... sadly that day has not come yet. That and all the places i've ventured through alone on my own.... Idk.... i have to say it again though..... feel happy that you've seen enough to be able to have faith in that there is another plane out there..... the scientist in me won't let me until i've experienced my own events..... how lovely a poltergeist would be at this stage in my life..... would set me free to do what only a few others I've known can do when you have absolute faith in possibility and in yourself.

Its getting to the point that I'm starting to think that if there are demons, maybe I'm something to be afraid of to them, or I have something always around me that just keeps them away. Most of my psi experience was energy manipulation and shielding so maybe I was successful a few years back with a few of my experiments and managed to a continuous barrier going........

Pretty much this would be my scenario for if I were to be visited by a spirit/demon wanting to cause me problems, I'd probably spend the day not doing much more than meditation and music and build up for the night, if I felt the demon doesn't realize what I'm doing I'll straight out say it whenever they give a sign that they are around; I'm just gonna meditate with good tunes and pool up the energies until they start acting malevolent again...... moment something goes down a few feet from me I'll know they are close enough to feel whatever I can throw at em and just...... blast my barrier full circle around me so regardless off where they go.... they'll get either consumed or sent flying. I've always been one who takes pleasure and pride in showing off the feats I can accomplish, that and having had quite the temper growing up.... now adays it only trully flares when I'm actually being wronged as opposed to me just getting upset over stupid #. I think people seriously doubt human capabilities far to much for their own good...... Demon comes to My home, and tries to play with me...... I'll more than enjoy being enlightened to their existence due to the fact I know it will strengthen my faith in my own abilities..... so any demon can come a knockin..... they just better be ready to turn and flee once I awaken.

I have no problem respecting other entities, but only when they are clear and real to me, otherwise it is a waste of respect and time thinking about their personally unproven existence.

reply to post by ChilledVoodoo

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i would recommend against it but if you must do not try using metal it dosnt work no demons showed up

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