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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 04:33 PM by mystiq
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Well, I've never bought the way Christianity teaches about demons or fallen angels. As if a part of the whole, Lucifer, decided one day to oppose
the Whole and thought he had a chance of winning. That defied logic. Up until my experience I didn't know whether I even believed in anything
beyond a kind of psi poltergiest negative energy that we may be creating in our traumas. After the experience I explored as many possible answers as
I could that made more sense.
One possibility, but not necessarily the right one, is that in order to encourage evolution and growth which happens best through problems, perhaps
some angels volunteered to play the bad guy roles for dualism's sake, and the light was literally taken from them so they play the role for real.
But one day it will be restored. Have no idea.
Then again, perhaps only a few angels stay with God, and the rest are kicked out of their home like we are, to live by faith and God oversees us
attempting to run creation in various stages of development (we're pretty low on the scale here on earth going through more base lessons such as
survival, greed versus sharing, etc). Perhaps in this scenario some of the angels actually started doing things wrong and ended up gradually
experiencing less and less light until they're pretty mixed up, and humans and ets also ended in this lower place. Those are actually the only 2 I
could think of.
But, I believe that the nazis, who researched some of the natural vortexes and were very interested in occult practices, and who came into the US via
project paperclip, may have been quite instrumental in opening gateways. Such as this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Lower dimensionals may be amongst us in seemingly human form. We need to preserve our love and the balance towards goodness.
There may be a link between the renegades that are reported to work with the cabal amongst the ets that are visiting. Many report interdimensional
ets, versus timelines. Now I believe the ets working grass roots with the people are positive and are not demons, but..... I do wonder at what the
black ops and cabal have been up to.
www.coasttocoastam.com...
Having read many occult texts I was caught by Stephen's description of these "longwalkers" and other "creatures" said to exist in
underground incubatoriums at such places as Area 51. This was interesting because I had just that day been shown some photos of an area approximately
60 mi. WNW of Area 51 where there exists a large Star of David-like design (Fig. 1) in the Earth. Approximately 15 mi. N of the star design is a
triangle design (Fig. 2) which contains concentric circles.
Compare these images with the "magic circle and triangle" (Fig. 3) from page 70 of a book called The Goetia edited by S.L. MacGregor Mathers. The
Goetia is the first part of a 17th century Ms. titled The Lesser Key of Solomon the King and it deals with the summoning of "demons". The idea was
that a magician stood inside the circle and summoned the demons inside the triangle where they were bound and could not escape. Two of these 72
demons, or "Jinn" as they are sometimes called, are pictured here (Figs.5 & 6). Now, I've never seen a "trans-genic" anything, but these
certainly look like they could fit the bill!
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reply posted on 30-11-2008 @ 05:16 PM by Blueangel7
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Originally posted by alien
I wouldn't be calling a Demon...I'd be calling a new Preacher...
...your one is an idiot for suggesting you do that...
...Demons are not things to play with or triffle with, they aren't little toys to pull out of the closet and then nicely put away when you're
done...they aren't puppets on a string (well, not YOUR string anyway)...
...and they aren't that difficult to bump into...when the situation arises you'll be more concerned with how to make them disappear rather
than appear...
I agree with the poster, and I've been studying demonic activity for 20 years! I don't understand why a pastor would tell anyone to call up a
demon. It's very dangerous, and it might be difficult to get rid of the demon. Sometimes it takes people years to get ok, after experimenting with
occult activity, etc! Please don't ever call up a demon!
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 04:29 AM by gordonwest
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Wow... Why is a Angel doing with 20 years at demonic activity? If you do not want everybody to know, you could send me a U2U. Thanks.
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reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 03:29 PM by Bombeni
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Originally posted by vox2442
Why would you need to turn off the lights?
I mean, seriously. Are demons afraid of incandescent light or something?
I`m thinking that your preacher is trying to put you in a position where you`ll scare the crap out of yourself by glancing into shadows.
Try it in front of an open window in broad daylight. Just say "Hey, all you demons! Fancy a chat?" and see what happens.
If they`re not going to show up for that, they probably won`t bother with the candle nonsense either.
It's true that demon activity would be more likely in candlelight than electric light; they don't like bright lighting, I'm no expert by any means
but I know a few stories from others.
The OP should forget the whole thing.
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reply posted on 29-1-2009 @ 08:00 PM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 29-1-2009 @ 08:40 PM by Unrealised
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Firstly, I wouldn't waste my time with pseudo-stupid websites that tell you the 'official' way of calling anti-entities, same goes for books.
Look deep into yourself and ask the untouched and frightening parts "do I want to see what you are?".
You know what your enemy is, the enemy deep inside.
If you call upon it without understanding that it is a part of you, you may destroy your life as you know it.
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reply posted on 12-7-2009 @ 08:54 PM by danjel
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what you should be thinking of is do you really want them to hurt you cause they will they aren't the friendliest of spirits you know you should
never even be thinking about summoning them cause then you will have to think how do i rid myself of this, and how am i gonna survive this. think
about what your asking for before you ask for direction this isn't a game.
[edit on 12-7-2009 by danjel]
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reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 06:03 PM by etrernalministries
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um spirits are demons.
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reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 08:55 PM by anonamousantichrist
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demons as most would believe, are not apart of my worldview. however, they are representative of a primal, destructive (not negative) force.
no one should ever takes this lightly and "play" with the ancient forces just to determine if they are "real."
if your worldview makes them tangible enough that you have to ask, then they can do you serious mental, emotional, and sometimes physical injury. if
opened, it's very hard to close the link once one is made between these forces and the person "playing."
i am someone who would know, so please, do not take this road unless you fully understand the ramifications and are ok with it.
this is serious business.
cheers,
AA
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 08:13 PM by btbj88
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I spoke with a demon once I think, my ex-girlfriend was possessed for about 6 hours one night after we were out partying. Seriously. Compulsions,
disorientation, crying then speaking in tongues. Pointing her finger at me while clearly yelling another language, maybe hebrew. Not sure, I had never
heard anything like it. The weird thing is that she hadn't had much to drink or smoke. We were just in the park with a couple of friends about
midnight and she started talking to herself and then collapsed. We thought we were going to have to call an ambulance because she acted like she
couldn't breath, grabbing at her throat, slapping her hands on her chest and the ground. Then she all of a sudden was ok, could stand up but she
didn't know who she was, any of us, or where she was at. Then she would go in and out of it, from crying telling me to stop the thing that was
getting at her to speaking tongues in a deep voice, pointing at me, and sometimes snickering at me when I was frightened.
The next day she had no recollection of any of it. We went to the catholic church and spoke with the Father there, because she is catholic but nothing
happened when he blessed her.
The crazy thing is about two weeks later she was partying with the same freinds and I wasn't there, but she started doing the same thing. When they
asked her if she had ever been "here" before, she replied "Yes, in the park." So the guy that was in the car took his cross neckless off and
placed it in her hand, which she grasped white knuckled and looked him straight in the eyes and said, "You're burning me!"
Again she had no recolection of it the next day.
I don't know what it was that I saw in her eyes that night, if it was a demon or maybe just a crazy girl's bad side coming out, but I know that I
never, ever want to see it again. For a long time afterwards I felt like there was always something behind me, or looking at me in the mirror or
window and sometimes still do.
Before any of this I was never much of a believer in any kind of that stuff, biblical angels, demons, or any kind of religion. I still don't know
what to think or that anyone can be right about anything like that. But I did go out and buy a bible directly after that. I mean who can judge the
oldest book in the world without reading it, right?
Anyways, I don't know why anyone would EVER try to get one of those conjured up on purpose! I hope that I will never come across that thing again,
can't remember what it said it's name was, but any of them are a bad thing to be around I am sure of that. Forget that preacher.
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 08:43 PM by clouseau
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Your preacher must be demonically influenced to even suggest you beckon or call on demons. I'm not telling you to do this, but I would think about
straying far away from that church and really get to know Jesus for yourself, don't be lead by anyone but you...
I can tell you from my own experience, you really don't want to find out if demons are real. The many sleepless nights and disturbances Is something
I don't wish on anyone.
The Feeling of fingers on you while you sleep, having the end of your bed lifted in the air, awaking from nightmares only to see darker than dark
figures in your room vanish in thin air, is not something you really want to see or experience.
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