Originally posted by The_CooIf Iran had 2000 of them it would, Russia is just waiting for the U.S. to do something stupid like attack/invade Iran (for oil like Iraq) so Russia can attack, if you can't see WW3 coming your the one thats crasy!
Would these anti-aircraft missile systems make much of a diffrence to a US attack on IRAN? Seems as if RUSSIA wouldnt just sit back and watch IRAN being hammered into the gground.
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Originally posted by Vanguard223I think you need to go reread Russia's weapons, I assure you U.S. will not last 2 weeks against Russia, Iraq's SAMs were old delapitated 60's era SAM's, if Iran had 2000 S-400 the U.S. would'nt last unless they launch 2000 drones, in 1999 NATO was forced to fly no less than 15K feet above ground over Serbia because of the well kept 60's era SAMs, and the Patriot is/was a joke Russia has the BEST SAMs in the world, and I challenge you to proove me wrong, many have blammed Russia for boasting, but few have did the research that actually prooves Russia's boasting was/is correct, here's some info you should have know, after doing 7 years of research I'm convinced the U.S. uses "media trickery" to make it self seem more advanced/powerful militaraly than Russia.
I love threads like this. They bring the irrational, frothing at the mouth, America haters out of the wood work. It's especially funny to hear people complain about how "violent" the U.S. is when it's the Europeans who started BOTH world wars. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is committing genocide in Iraq or Afghanistan, needs to look up that word. If we just wanted to kill civilians there would be B-52 raids day and night over population centers. THAT would be genocide. The few civilians that are dying over there are usually killed by IED's or suicide bombers, not U.S. forces. You people need to get a grip on reality.
Another thing, please stop touting Russian military equipment as being up to par with U.S. equipment. It's not. Not even close. Even the newest Russian crap rolling off the assembly doesn't stand up to Western, let alone U.S., standards. Anyone that thinks a few Russian SAMS are going to even slow down the U.S. Air Force, is smoking something. The U.S. is the best in the world at supressing enemy air defenses. All those Russian SAMS mean is there will be more dead Iranian radar operators. Bank on it.
Originally posted by YASKY
Originally posted by The_CooIf Iran had 2000 of them it would, Russia is just waiting for the U.S. to do something stupid like attack/invade Iran (for oil like Iraq) so Russia can attack, if you can't see WW3 coming your the one thats crasy!
Would these anti-aircraft missile systems make much of a diffrence to a US attack on IRAN? Seems as if RUSSIA wouldnt just sit back and watch IRAN being hammered into the gground.
www.nasdaq.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
[edit on 12-9-2007 by YASKY]
Originally posted by YASKY
Originally posted by Vanguard223I think you need to go reread Russia's weapons, I assure you U.S. will not last 2 weeks against Russia, Iraq's SAMs were old delapitated 60's era SAM's, if Iran had 2000 S-400 the U.S. would'nt last unless they launch 2000 drones, in 1999 NATO was forced to fly no less than 15K feet above ground over Serbia because of the well kept 60's era SAMs, and the Patriot is/was a joke Russia has the BEST SAMs in the world, and I challenge you to proove me wrong, many have blammed Russia for boasting, but few have did the research that actually prooves Russia's boasting was/is correct, here's some info you should have know, after doing 7 years of research I'm convinced the U.S. uses "media trickery" to make it self seem more advanced/powerful militaraly than Russia.
I love threads like this. They bring the irrational, frothing at the mouth, America haters out of the wood work. It's especially funny to hear people complain about how "violent" the U.S. is when it's the Europeans who started BOTH world wars. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is committing genocide in Iraq or Afghanistan, needs to look up that word. If we just wanted to kill civilians there would be B-52 raids day and night over population centers. THAT would be genocide. The few civilians that are dying over there are usually killed by IED's or suicide bombers, not U.S. forces. You people need to get a grip on reality.
Another thing, please stop touting Russian military equipment as being up to par with U.S. equipment. It's not. Not even close. Even the newest Russian crap rolling off the assembly doesn't stand up to Western, let alone U.S., standards. Anyone that thinks a few Russian SAMS are going to even slow down the U.S. Air Force, is smoking something. The U.S. is the best in the world at supressing enemy air defenses. All those Russian SAMS mean is there will be more dead Iranian radar operators. Bank on it.
Here's some interesting facts, after boasting about the "Patriot's" performance in DesartStorm, here's the facts: (Now just imagine if Iraq had the S-300V back then 1991, U.S. would have had 85% of thier planes shot down)
1. www.fas.org...
2. www.cdi.org...
3. www.cdi.org...
[edit on 12-9-2007 by YASKY]
[edit on 12-9-2007 by YASKY]
Originally posted by Vanguard223I said if Iran get 2000 S-400's the U.S. will not get in Iran in anyway, thats what I said.
Originally posted by YASKY
Originally posted by Vanguard223I think you need to go reread Russia's weapons, I assure you U.S. will not last 2 weeks against Russia, Iraq's SAMs were old delapitated 60's era SAM's, if Iran had 2000 S-400 the U.S. would'nt last unless they launch 2000 drones, in 1999 NATO was forced to fly no less than 15K feet above ground over Serbia because of the well kept 60's era SAMs, and the Patriot is/was a joke Russia has the BEST SAMs in the world, and I challenge you to proove me wrong, many have blammed Russia for boasting, but few have did the research that actually prooves Russia's boasting was/is correct, here's some info you should have know, after doing 7 years of research I'm convinced the U.S. uses "media trickery" to make it self seem more advanced/powerful militaraly than Russia.
I love threads like this. They bring the irrational, frothing at the mouth, America haters out of the wood work. It's especially funny to hear people complain about how "violent" the U.S. is when it's the Europeans who started BOTH world wars. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is committing genocide in Iraq or Afghanistan, needs to look up that word. If we just wanted to kill civilians there would be B-52 raids day and night over population centers. THAT would be genocide. The few civilians that are dying over there are usually killed by IED's or suicide bombers, not U.S. forces. You people need to get a grip on reality.
Another thing, please stop touting Russian military equipment as being up to par with U.S. equipment. It's not. Not even close. Even the newest Russian crap rolling off the assembly doesn't stand up to Western, let alone U.S., standards. Anyone that thinks a few Russian SAMS are going to even slow down the U.S. Air Force, is smoking something. The U.S. is the best in the world at supressing enemy air defenses. All those Russian SAMS mean is there will be more dead Iranian radar operators. Bank on it.
Here's some interesting facts, after boasting about the "Patriot's" performance in DesartStorm, here's the facts: (Now just imagine if Iraq had the S-300V back then 1991, U.S. would have had 85% of thier planes shot down)
1. www.fas.org...
2. www.cdi.org...
3. www.cdi.org...
[edit on 12-9-2007 by YASKY]
[edit on 12-9-2007 by YASKY]
You are one of the lunatics I'm talking about. Russia has a third rate military. Posting links to weapons systems doesn't prove your point. I'm not denying that those weapon systems exist, I'm saying they're woefully inadequate to blunt any U.S. attack. The proof is the fact that everywhere the U.S. goes, they have air supremacy in the first couple days of operations. That's my "proof".....that's real, not a posted link to some unproven weapon system.
And yes, everyone knows the Patriot system had problems......in 1992. How does this support your argument that Iran could stop a U.S. attack?
[edit on 12-9-2007 by Vanguard223]
