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Revelations of a Bloodline Insider?

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posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 03:36 AM
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SORRY IF THIS HAS BEEN POSTED BEFORE, COULDNT FIND IT USING THE SEARCH TOOL.


I saw this on Demonoid, the torrent website when looking for Illuminati things and stuff when i came across this.

www.demonoid.com...

Seemed intriging so i downloaded it.

Read it, and made me think. I cant really make a stance on this because doing so would make me change my entire beleif system AGAIN, lol. Last time that happend was about 365 days or so ago when i decided that 9/11 was an inside job.

All i am saying is, if your able to download the PDF (link provided), and share your thoughts that would be great.

And i dont really have any more info. on this if its a dis-info. thing, hoax, etc.

Thanks if you have the time, hope to see some comments.

rapidshare.com...

PS the PDF FIle is ONLY about 800kb so its not very big at all.

PSS Just the messenger trying to see if anyone can clarify anything or stuff. I am just sincerly interested in what this person wrote.




posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 05:05 AM
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okay um i read this...and i have to say im not experienced enuff about this stuff and if i was am entirely to tired to try and analize...but i will say this has got to be the most thought provoking thing ive read in awhile...dont know if its a hoax or not but either way unless this guy gets busted out i feel he's gonna get his own john titor-esque place in the world of ats...def suprised more havnt chimed in on this yet...



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 06:30 AM
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I read through that and while I found some of his answers interesting, it smells of hoax to me.

Why would he announce himself to be an 'insider' if he wasn't going to reveal some sort of jaw dropping revelation?

Almost every question asked of him, he answered in a very generic way, without giving too much away. At the beginning of his answers, he states that he is part of a "well known" bloodline, yet later on in the questions, he replies that his family name is mentioned 'here and there' in history, and you wouldn't recognize it if you heard it.

So obviously he contradicted himself.

Very good hoax, the guy does a good job of seeming as though he believes the nonsense which he spews, but the first impression I got was someone who was looking for attention, and found a captive audience. And we all know what they say about first impressions don't we??

What concerns me more is why those people didn't just call him on the BS? Are we that easily led as a society?


[edit on 5-9-2007 by synappz]



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 07:11 AM
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Hello,
Well, this is my first post. JarheadJock, Thank you.
I think what was stated in that forum was absolutly truthful and amazing. I think he/she? expressed themself graciously. I as well posed questions that I believed to be relavent and they unfolded upon thought. Absolutly and utterly awesome. I think the straight message is right on. I think there is alot to it.
Thank you.

The one thing that is bugging me is the notion that this life here on earth is a prison and it seems that this life is not held in high regaurd. I disagree with that and the logic of that especially in nature of the context.
I will try to pass this on and be back on this thread for sure.
Love.



[edit on 5-9-2007 by Stella Lotus]



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by future flow
okay um i read this...and i have to say im not experienced enuff about this stuff and if i was am entirely to tired to try and analize...but i will say this has got to be the most thought provoking thing ive read in awhile...



Same here man. When i first read it it seemed pretty intelligently written. It provoked thought about what he said, like reading between the lines. I personally think that most things, if not all, are psychological. I mean, that if we think it through mentally and stuff it can be done, we just complicate things. This "insider" speaks that everything is as easy as he says it is, we just need to utilize the tools correctly.


Originally posted by synappz
Very good hoax, the guy does a good job of seeming as though he believes the nonsense which he spews, but the first impression I got was someone who was looking for attention, and found a captive audience. And we all know what they say about first impressions don't we??


That is true too....we cant really rule it out as a hoax. The hard thing about this is that its all speculative, i havnt been able to find info on it. Though, the thread it happend on orignially, most of this "insiders" answers were cut out because the forum had gotten hacked into.

www.godlikeproductions.com.../4/05&mpage=2

Look at the last 4 or 5 replies on this thread on that page. Pretty suspicious too if you ask me.

But IF this IS a hoax, its a pretty elaborate one i've got to admit.


Originally posted by Stella Lotus
The one thing that is bugging me is the notion that this life here on earth is a prison and it seems that this life is not held in high regaurd. I disagree with that and the logic of that especially in nature of the context.
I will try to pass this on and be back on this thread for sure.

The things this "insider" said about religion and the meta-physical intrigued me too. And about the prison, i always felt that Earth wasnt really the place it was made up to be. I beleive in other dimensions, so this is what probably led me to my decision. heaven and hell are probably in differnt dimensions, as so are ghosts. I think that since everything has its own vibration/frequency levels there HAVE to be different dimension they live in. Since we are physical beings with "souls", we are put on Earth due to a specific energy/vibration thing. lol idk but i think thats how i interpreted.

Thanks for your post too, glad you liked it. But also remember, dont take it TOO Seriously until we know who this person actually is and if its not a hoax.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 04:10 PM
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yea id have t agree with jarheadjock dont invest to much as this could very well and most likley is a hoax.....but that being said i dont see how anyone can prove that it was or wasnt a hoax given and given what dude was saying i personnaly dont belive he/she was looking for attention....this to me reminds me very much of the john titor incedent....in that even if dude was perpatrating a hoax...it was filled with things i would consider...hoax or not to be valueable info...anyway i still dont know what to make of the guy but also find it odd that some posts have been deleted,and when reading the pdf it says (assuming he was truthfull)that his proxies disapearded numerous times and he could not see all posts....if a hoax indeed an elaborate one.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 06:04 PM
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I've retracted my outing of the insider. Upon further reading there's just not enough to go on,

Some posts were spot on then the similarities just disappeared. I apologize if I sent you on a wild goose chase,

STM


[edit on 9/5/2007 by seentoomuch]



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 07:09 PM
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Nice, I just scanned but I intend to check that out. I do agree that the ideas provoked need to be takin carefully, with a grain. Theres a whole lot of other worldly stuff. I dig the universal outlook however I think that this world is just as important. However again I think that THAT message is also in a way conveyed.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 07:34 PM
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Well, just went back and read some more posts of his, now I'm not so sure. The 2004 posts have a lot of the same phrasing, but in the '05 it let up. I'm gonna let this one go. I retract it totally. Just not enough to go on.

STM



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by seentoomuch
I've retracted my outing of the insider. Upon further reading there's just not enough to go on,


Actually, I think you were correct in your identification. It has all the earmarks of being produced by a serial hoaxer... and someone who's hoaxed before.

Good catch.

As to critique... well, there's a lot to critique. It's vague huffery and "Insider" never gives a straight answer (again, indicating an experienced serial hoaxer). He's familar with the posts on GLP and possibly Rense (and at least the past 4 years or so). He also knows nothing about babies... that's pretty evident from his post about "when babies are born."

The pattern is VERY typical of other "I will answer everything" posts that appear on GLP. It's a popular thread type there... over here, it'd be hopped on by a pack of skeptics and the hoaxer would flee with his tail between his legs after the first detailed question landed on his head. Folks who wouldn't accept his frequently used excuse "Well Einstein/Jesus/Tesla/whomever got it mostly right but there were things he wasn't allowed to know because he's a puppet."

Notice that there were quite a few people who played along or asked questions that were able to be answered with MysticMumboJumbo. "Everyone answers to The One eventually," is one such statement (a divinity is implied but it could also be the universe or a powerful Leader of the Earth and so forth.) The "answering things in great detail will not help you" doge that he employed more than once was amusing.

In the end, what were you given? A spoonfull of vague and very sloppy and lightweight New Ageisms. In fact, various people have spouted this same sort of thing many times before -- a watered-down Christianity with no foundation other than "I said it, and I've got knowledge of the divine."

So... the question of motive arises. A need for attention (whether they believe they have some sort of Cosmic Message and "insider" means "I'm in contact with Gawd" or "I'm a member of the cosmic bloodline"... they want the attention given to the message) or an experiment ("how long can I keep them asking questions"?) I'm kind of divided about how much I think the hoaxer believes this lightweight philosphy.

But no, they're not part of some long bloodline that holds secret and sacred truths. That's the hoax part.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by seentoomuch
I've retracted my outing of the insider. Upon further reading there's just not enough to go on,


Actually, I think you were correct in your identification. It has all the earmarks of being produced by a serial hoaxer... and someone who's hoaxed before.


IMO, i dont really think the 2 dont match up. The more recent one had more of a flair to him. I just thought that the Meta/spritual stuff was kinda reminescent of Freemasonry. Because of the "Insider" talking about how there is a Great Divinity and such, remined me of Great Creator or something Freemasons acknolewdge. Other than that, i knew that if the elite were doing something bad, it had to be for a reason. And that reason was bestowed upon those bloodlines to accomplish it. Everyone has a motive for everything. I Mean, if it was just for a NWO, it would get pretty boring. This kind of speculation on motives of the Elite Bloodlines leads to many different things that may be related i.e. religion, cultic actions (Bohemian-esque), and such. What i am trying to say is, the "Insider" is placing these Elites in a neutural zone. And their only doing what their told by the Great Divinity. And he also says that the tools are at hand, and what we do with them paves the way for our future. Those tools are what our world leaders are in possesion of today. And their the ones paving the way for us.

The future is ours and what we make of it, the Elite dont really have any significance. Its true in what he said, if they wanted population reduction, they coulda done it so fast you wouldnt have time to say "Conspiracy!". I mean, why would they allow such a boost in population? Its absurd.




Sorry its kinda dated but from 1960 to 1998 there was a 3 BILLION human increase in 38 years. Thats crazy. and we're only going to go higher. The only way to decrease it is by Nukes (thereby making the planted uninhabitable), or dieses (gets the world pretty smelly), and being shot i guess (too messy). All i am trying to say is, that we shouldt really throw EVERYTHING the "Insider" says away. If it provokes serious thought for discussion it cant be all bad.

But if it is a hoax then its a good one in a positive way.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd
The pattern is VERY typical of other "I will answer everything" posts that appear on GLP. It's a popular thread type there... over here, it'd be hopped on by a pack of skeptics and the hoaxer would flee with his tail between his legs after the first detailed question landed on his head. Folks who wouldn't accept his frequently used excuse "Well Einstein/Jesus/Tesla/whomever got it mostly right but there were things he wasn't allowed to know because he's a puppet."


This was my first visit to GLP and after wandering around for awhile it felt as though I was in some sort of fun house filled with mirrors, no solid base for anything, difficult to know up from down. I rate their site right up there with India Daily.


Originally posted by ByrdNotice that there were quite a few people who played along or asked questions that were able to be answered with MysticMumboJumbo.
In the end, what were you given? A spoonfull of vague and very sloppy and lightweight New Ageisms. In fact, various people have spouted this same sort of thing many times before -- a watered-down Christianity with no foundation other than "I said it, and I've got knowledge of the divine."


Accurate description again, Byrd, that's exactly what I found to be the case; bits of vague New Ageisms. I couldn't pin it one person for sure, it'd fit so many.






Note: The illuminati are the old families of Europe, the idle rich who have created for themselves a self-perpetuating myth that they live within to to give some semblance of meaning and justification to their otherwise empty lives. And they don't hang out on the internet, they hang out at Malibu, or some private island with a personal doctor at their side who gives them a shot to cheer them up and say yes to them all the time no matter how out of order their comments and actions are. That's my insider info., hope it's clear enough, they're not to be looked up to, envied or considered a threat, if anything they're just signatories for their hired business managers and lawyers who make all the decisions nowadays, not them, lol.

Edit to clarify: When I say signatories/signature I don't mean their hand written signature. Instead when dealing with the old banks they use symbols, such as a triangle with a small symbol in each corner, otherwise known as a banking stamp which the templars introduced.

STM

[edit on 9/5/2007 by seentoomuch]



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 10:47 PM
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It reads like the crafty work of a well-oiled and well-practised hoaxster. Having read it I wish I had spent the time turning the compost bin instead.

But it did offer one salutary point of contemplation: how does one understand life on earth. That individual offered Earth as a prison for naughty souls who violated rules they knew nothing about. Now that is certainly reduction to absurdity.

I think a little meditation upon what life on Earth is about is worthwhile. What does one value? What does one trust? What is most significant?



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 12:37 AM
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Well... that was an interesting read. But I have to agree that it seems like a skilled hoax. The answers don't come out straight, they get twisted up in "misconceptions" and "misunderstandings". And the religious views he's pushing seem about the same as every other dogma. He talks down about new age views and yet most of what he's saying about the soul and higher beings fits in with it very well. It starts off being fairly realistic but it didn't take very long before it goes into the realm of being unprovable. I mean, it's one thing to discuss oil reserves and contamination in water and food... but jumping from there to explaining the "One" (and no, it's not Neo this time) is a big step. Whenever you experience anger, pleasure, happiness, arousal, etc... beings surround you because it's there function? Sounds like Demons and angels to me, the same crap we get told in sunday school. And the bit about how these entities purpose, and the purpose of the body is to keep us trapped in this realm, but they don't WANT us to fail, it's just there job. Like we really need assistance in this area? We're experts already in mental stagnation. But still, it was an interesting read, thanks for the find jarheadjock, some of the points are worth contemplation.



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 02:36 AM
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hmm it seems to me that general consensus is that dude is a haoxer..im still undecided and probably will be for awhile....lol call me naive.but let me ask you guys something lets assume he's not haoxing and we had proof that he was who he said(or didnt say lol) and all that jazz.....would you re-read what he said again...would it make you look at what he said different?and i noticed he kept saying read between the lines....i tried to read between the lines but since reading between the lines is different for diff people in most case's i would like to hear what you took from that...if you were to assume he was not a haox.


edit for spelling


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posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 08:29 AM
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i read the pdf file. somewhat interesting material, but mostly this "insider's" ideas sound like militant hinduism to me.

s



posted on Sep, 17 2007 @ 06:05 PM
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Haha, I remember that thread on GLP. I was in that one a lot. I can not download the pdf file but if I remember correctly I was one asking a lot of questions. GLP used to be awesome. Too bad Trinity got so arrogant and cocky.



posted on Oct, 23 2007 @ 01:03 AM
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Seems very interesting from what I have read here thusfar.

I will have to give it a go when I am able to get access to a better wi-fi connection. My current one ranks somewhere below "SUCKS".


I'll file this back in my mind and come back to the thread when I am able to view all of the content.


Until then, free bump for you.



Jasn



posted on Oct, 29 2007 @ 12:10 AM
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There are many of us out here..........The Davidic bloodline has been around for 150 generations now. It's not really all that hard to fathom. Jesus of Nazarene was of the Davidic bloodline, but failed to fulfill the true prophesy.

We are either artists or soldiers.......always have been. All those that try to read to much into it will one day understand.

[edit on 29-10-2007 by StonyJ]



posted on Oct, 30 2007 @ 12:01 AM
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to the above post, how did Jesus fail exactly??

The PDF file is missing, it is no longer located in the original link provided. Anyone have a duplicate?



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