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NEW 9/11 VIDEO - FLIGHT 93 Fraud - #1 Smoking Gun evidence

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posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 11:39 PM
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The 4 minute video show "shocking proof" that no plane or Flight 93 crashed at Shanksville on 9/11 and that possibly a missile or bomb was used.


See for your self. Youtube link
www.youtube.com...








img255.imageshack.us...]Shanksville photos, Must see







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posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 12:02 AM
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I like to say that people are still on the 911 drug, but it's wearing off.

You cant debunk this video and it will not.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by OutoftheSky
I like to say that people are still on the 911 drug, but it's wearing off.

You cant debunk this video and it will not.


I changed the youtube link to just a link instead of inbed. its good.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 01:27 AM
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That one plain disappears in smoke [Pentagon crash] as said in the official story and believed and accepted by many, for me is absolute amazing.

But when two plains disappeared in smoke [Pentagon crash] and [Flight 93 crash] and believed and accepted by many, for me is absolute unbelievable.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 06:58 AM
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Whats most important is that the flight 93 crash site marking were already there pre-911.


THe official story said the black scar was caused by the vanishing wings but we learned it was there pre911.

This is all the evidence one needs to know 911 was fraud.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 10:30 AM
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OMG.... The scar you speak of was covered in grass. And if a plane did hit it and caused the scar the grass would be gone or scorced. (Oh gee how did I miss that one.. kicks self.)

You mean to tell me that scar was already there?!?!?!?! The whole time? Pre 9-11..

So what happened to the people on flight 93?


So sick of the government brain washing us. It was told by a source that flight 93 landed in Ohio. But I heard it was shot down- was mixed up with flight 89. blah blah blah.

I also had a thread on the possiblity that Barbara Olsen was still alive. And my view on the towers. All were buried. My view will remain the same.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 10:37 AM
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I remember seeing somewhere that the manifests for the planes were all screwed up and the members of two planes that were mis-numbered had been evacuated from their planes into a security bunker. anyone remember where that was?



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 10:41 AM
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I think one was a NASA hanger and a airport hanger. But I'm not 100% sure.

A security bunker? First time I heard that.

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posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 10:44 AM
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i remember seeing this footage the first time on that day,and i said when i seen it..."where's the plane" and if i remember correct..when they talked about the pentacon being hit... they always showed this footage for the first few hours.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 04:33 PM
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This had me pretty shocked at first glance.. but now as I look closer, I believe the 'scar' lines don't match up. It would be nice to see some deeper & more close-up analysis.

I think the orientation of the scar-line from 2001 is different than the 1994 line. It looks to me that the ditch in '94 is covered over & grass grown over it, & the 'new' scar is above where the old one used to be. So if they don't line up, I don't see how that pre-existing mark could be used to help create the look of a crashed plane. Then it would just be a coincidence? Pretty bizarr one I'll admit...

I just don't want us being taken in by something that looks like a smoking gun, but isn't.. they always seem to 'get' us by using that tactic. We must be vigilant & careful here. I could be totally wrong, so I'd like to see someone else take a closer look.

But yeah, if I'm wrong about that, & they do line up? Bang.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 04:51 PM
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Not saying it didn't but need more pictures. Some are hard to tell because all of the digging and such as well as the angles of the pictures. But this wing scar is the straight one. I noticed there are two. One curved and one straight.

OutoftheSky- Please provide your sources and the links to the sites of where you found the pictures.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 05:40 PM
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... though I should say, the lack of ANY debris in the area is as much a smoking gun as anything, at least as far as Flt 93 is concerned.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 05:46 PM
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They don't match up.




There's a picture of where the "crash" was.



That's the 1994 view with the red circle representing where the "crash" is in comparison to the scar.


If you look at the top photo, you'll see that the crash is much closer to the road than the scar, and it's pointing straight at the trees, rather than pointing diagonally at the curve in the road.

Also notice that white patch of dirt or what ever it is in the top photo, and find it on the 1994 photo.

I don't think Flight 93 crashed there either, but this is incorrect. They are awfully close, but they're not the same.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by 12SeVeN34
I remember seeing somewhere that the manifests for the planes were all screwed up and the members of two planes that were mis-numbered had been evacuated from their planes into a security bunker. anyone remember where that was?


Found this about Cleveland.... youtube.com...

And this... www.youtube.com...

Kind of strange to say the least.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 06:31 PM
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As posted above, the scars don't seem to line up, but I'm open to the remote possibility the land shifted that much in the 7 years prior to 9/11, but only if backed up by substantial geological evidence (i.e. a photo of the scar by the USGS in 1998).



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 06:56 PM
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Thanks for doing that Novus. This is why I love this board... No BS allowed


Not to say this was intentional, certainly an easy mistake to make. I just get concerned things like this are meant to get everyone aboard the 'new smoking gun' band-wagon, then it's shot down & we all look (& feel) bad.

But around here, they don't let that happen very often...



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 07:04 PM
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Here's another. They're close to the same angle and location. The black and white one is obviously 1994, and the color one is 2004.





I marked the approximate location of the "scar" on the 2004 picture judging by the 1994 photo. You can tell this by looking at the edge of that tree line when the road curves. The "scar" is pointing directly at that curve.

Then, the circle on the 2004 photo is the approximate location of Flight 93 judging by the Flight 93 crash photos and how close the crater is to the road, and also that white patch of dirt above it on these pictures.

Like I said before, they're close, but they aren't exact. And the "scar" appears to be MUCH bigger than the crash site.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 07:14 PM
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This is an amazing piece of video.Thanks to whoever took the time to piece it together.
One more vid for the collection.
Let's see Popular Mechanics debunk this one.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by citizen truth
Let's see Popular Mechanics debunk this one.


They don't have to because I did.



posted on Sep, 5 2007 @ 07:27 PM
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So what's the conclusion here? I mean the 2001 photos don't look as if a commercial airliner crashed there. Shouldn't that be accepted as more then enough evidence to doubt the official fable. So where did flight 93 go is what I'm still pondering? I think it's pretty obvious by eye that a plane didn't crash there, but you can show the defunkers a pristine golf course and they will believe an airliner crashed there if the government tells them so.



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