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reply posted on 12-9-2007 @ 08:11 PM by BitRaiser
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Originally posted by thedigirati
Iran has Oil, why the "need" for nuclear power? that has not been explained to me as of yet.
By all means, allow me;
Iran is a growing country that is quickly moving towards becoming a first world nation. This growth means that their energy demands are also growing,
thus they are consuming more and more of their oil. Naturally since they are using more oil themselves, they have less oil for export. They are
dependent on their oil exports for their growth... so they are caught in a bit of a catch 22. It's speculated that Iran is already at peak
production, so they can't simply produce more oil.
By investing in nuclear power, they can offset their energy demands. This would allow them to grown AND continue to export oil. There's also nothing
new or shocking about any of this... their nuclear program has been on-going since the mid 70s! The only reason it's a big deal now is it's a
convenient excuse for the US to stomp them down before they can become a competing first world nation.
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reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 10:53 PM by dmxny
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Originally posted by manzoor
reply to all people who think irans military will be wiped out:
first thats crazy no way would you wipe there army out or shatter there will to fight chances are you will make there morale high iran is not iraq
alot more advanced
Their military hardware is as good as destroyed in the firs 48 hours. Iran is no more prepared for the american onslaught then iraq was.
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reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 10:57 PM by OzWeatherman
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Good old Iran, havnt they been threatening to annihalate the US since the seventies
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reply posted on 13-9-2007 @ 10:59 PM by dmxny
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Originally posted by manzoor
reply to post by Alien Abduct
get a few things right 1 irans not a threat 2 china will easily wipe america out there army will just role over your army with numbers 3 america wont
stand a chance and 4 its a mistake if iran is attacked and i mean a big one like we never so the consequences of the iraq invasion and look at it now
chances are in iran we will see even bigger mess and trouble so good luck!
CHINA WILL DO NO SUCH THING!!!!!
OK so they have lots of human wave material..
1 they have to train equip and transport them all to the battlefield.... Yeah sure good luck with that alone.
2 people spewed the same defeatest garbage attitude about iraq that your spewing now. About now americas army was supposed to be in flames with over
100,000 dead. Guess not.
3. Number do not mean as much as they used to. massed attacks with millions of troops are easy to detect, and very easy to attack.
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reply posted on 15-9-2007 @ 05:18 PM by manzoor
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reply to post by dmxny
  you must be *SNIP* to think america could destroy china are you *SNIP*? chinia will and can wipe out america there peoples army will just
role over your armed forces. as for iran well they have had along time to prepare as they have been doing reinforceing buildings etc and building up
there military so lets just wait to see how much off a failure it will be you war loving yanks
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reply posted on 15-9-2007 @ 05:36 PM by 4thDoctorWhoFan
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Originally posted by manzoor
reply to  you must be stupid to think america could destroy china are you dumb? chinia will and can wipe out america there peoples army
will just role over your armed forces. as for iran well they have had along time to prepare as they have been doing reinforceing buildings etc and
building up there military so lets just wait to see how much off a failure it will be you war loving yanks
Are you *SNIP*
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reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 11:54 AM by masqua
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Please leave the namecalling and personal attacks at the door.
Carry on.
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reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 12:20 PM by Sky watcher
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The United States could incinerate every square inch of China with its nuclear missiles so how do you figure that they could just run over us? In a
land battle maybe they could win but where and how would that happen?They would have to come through India first and that hasn't worked well for them
in the past. They don't have a large enough navy. An air lift is suicide. They only have maybe two hundred nukes and they would be wiped out by our
B-2s or our subs at the start of any hostile acts.
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reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 02:21 PM by BitRaiser
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Good old Iran, havnt they been threatening to annihalate the US since the seventies
No, actually.
That's what the propagandists want you to believe, but it's not the truth.
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reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 03:12 PM by 4thDoctorWhoFan
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Originally posted by manzoor2 china will easily wipe america out there army will just role over your army with numbers
Now thats funny!
What makes you think such a ludicrous thought? Numbers mean nothing since you can only transport so many at one time.
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reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 03:14 PM by 4thDoctorWhoFan
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Originally posted by BitRaiserNo, actually.
That's what the propagandists want you to believe, but it's not the truth.
Link please to back up your words.
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reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 05:59 PM by princeofpeace
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Iran's nuclear program has been a secret for over 20 years. Thats not exactly confidence inspiring to other countries when they want to know what
their real intention is. Why keep it quiet for so long? That and inflammatory remarks by the regime itself prove that they are not responsible enough
to have nuclear "energy". They are just plain STUPID.
They probably could have had successful nuclear program and ultimately a bomb if they had just played their cards right but their leadership is so
crass, belicose and just plain dumb that now they are going to have their program blown to smitherines and the poor people of that country will pay
for it. Their gov't has been spending all this money trying to develop a technology that will never bear fruit and that money could have been spent
on bettering the lives of their people. The Mullahs are IDIOTS.
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reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 11:30 PM by BitRaiser
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reply posted on 17-9-2007 @ 05:58 AM by kindred
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Well I checked your article out and it's nice to see that atleast someone else On ATS can see through all the propaganda and lies and see the truth.
 Very insightful and well written.
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reply posted on 17-9-2007 @ 06:55 PM by 4thDoctorWhoFan
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Originally posted by BitRaiser
I did one better than to provide a single link, I wrote and article on the subject and posted it right here on ATS complete with many links sighting
sources.
Some of what you say in your post is accurate, however a lot of it is biased heavily to fit your perceived views. But good for you, at least you care
enough to take the time and try to express your views.
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reply posted on 18-9-2007 @ 03:40 AM by BitRaiser
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Thanks.
If you feel you can rebuke any point in that thread, please do so.
As I commented right at the head of that article, I'm not under any delusions that Iran is all warm and fluffy. The entire point was to cut through
the amazing amount of BS that has been generated by western media (the most prolific propaganda engine of all time) and to hopefully get some people
to realize that what they believe about Iran is based on lies.
It's anti-propagandist.
To that end, yes, it is one sided.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 08:32 AM by manzoor
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reply to all:
well numbers men alot chinia has numbers look what happened to the germans at kursk etc numbers won over tech yes america has nukes so does chinia
well it goes to show how weak america are if they have to resort to nuclear weapons nuclear weapons used would make america a wimp chinese
army,airforce,navy will crush americas forces in a few days as for the iranian your country will suffer heavy blows and deaths. give it a few years
chinia will be one the worlds next superpowers i think america is loseing it grip!!
regards manzoor
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