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"We were in the process right prior to September the 11th cleaning out the area. We just -- we moved all the trailers. Actually, on the tenth we had some other trailers that were just leaving because we were getting ready to turn it back over to the building."
On September 10th, it was kind of busy because the President flew out. He flew out that Monday, and whenever the President flies out, it is always a dog and pony show, you know.
You have got the Secret Service guys coming around and the dogs sniffing, and everything. So it was kind of like a big old deal. And so on September 10th, you know it was really kind of busy. And he was scheduled to come back on September 11th.
posted by NIcon
Also, Nola, I'm glad you mentioned the times between the pictures because that's what originally started me looking into these photos. Photos DSC_0409, DSC_0410, and DSC_0411 looked way too similar to me even though they are drastically different in zoom and center of focus.
Is this possible to do with a camera on consecutive shots? Was he using a tripod? And if he was, why the slight tilt on DSC_0409? Maybe I'm obsessing too much on these three photos.
MARINES WORK FOR FBI ON 9-11
We are asked to believe the FBI is the foremost criminal investigatory agency in the world; that they have highly trained employees who are experts in gathering evidence that will stand up in any court. We are also asked to believe that the FBI was at the Pentagon on 9-11 to "investigate."
But at the same time we are asked to believe the FBI arrived at the scene without their own photographers, and hired two photographers on the spot to take court-room quality photos. Both photographers just happened to arrive at the scene with cameras, and both happened to be Marines.
One of these was Cpl. Jason Ingersoll, the gentleman who took a photo of the 9:40 a.m. event at 9:30 a.m. www.public-action.com...
According to an article in Recordnet.com, at the time impact occurred, Ingersoll was in his Marine Corps' headquarters office, across the street from the Pentagon. When he heard the impact, he grabbed his camera and went on over.
"One of the first photographers on the scene, he was drafted by the FBI to become a member of it evidence-response team. All through the day, Ingersoll took photos that some day could be used as evidence in court. He also had to maintain detailed crime-scene records in case he is asked to testify."
Ingersoll put in 12-hour shifts for the FBI over the next few days, providing them with photographic "support." Recordnet.com also stated:
"Ingersoll . . . helped place bodies in bags to be handed over to the Army recovery team."
So here is a Marine on the scene -- a mere coincidence to the event -- and the FBI drafts him into the crucial work of
Taking evidentiary photographs that may have to be tested in court
Removing the bodies of the victims -- apparently without training in the proper handling of bodies at a crime scene.
A second Marine photographer just happened to show up with his camera and just happened to get hired on the spot by the FBI. Sgt. Marshall Paull is the photographer for the Commandant of the Marine Corps., Gen. James L. Jones. As mentioned already, the terrorists had been considerate enough to avoid hitting the offices of the Joint Chiefs; after the event, Paull was safe, grabbed his camera, and headed for the impact site.
"During his time at Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Ariz., Sgt. Paull had the unfortunate duty of photographing a few aviation accidents. When he saw FBI agents arrive at the Pentagon, he told them of his experience and said he would be willing to help.
"They took him up on his offer, and soon put him in a helicopter to take overhead pictures of the damage to the Pentagon."
Several Public Action supporters have searched the Net, but found no photos showing FBI helicopters over Pentagon airspace on 9-11.
However, remember the helicopter, variously described as a military helicopter conducting an "aerial survey" of the Pentagon crash site, and as an "Army Red Cross helicopter" (see "Air Space Not Too Restricted ", above). Most likely, this was the helicopter into which FBI agents put Sgt. Paull. The FBI, not the military, was obviously controlling the air space, military personnel, and military materiel on 9-11.
Recall that "no military intelligence officials have been allowed into the area," nor were they allowed to gather up military intelligence documents on 9-11; even military secret documents became FBI property.
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
Heliport tower air traffic controller Sean Boger describes how it was a "dog and pony show"
I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building," Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief Sean Boger said.
Originally posted by justgeneric
If I were to recount what I saw on the news it would likely differ from another's account of the identical images.
Deprogrammed? LMAO - nah I just haven't seen the bit of information I need to conclude personally that that a missile hit the pentagon/ or that theere were two planes and one was a decoy, or that the entire flight plan was choreographed.... May never happen. At any rate blindly trusting the Gov's has never been an issue. I dislike and mistrust them all pretty evenly
Proof in the way it is available (knowing 100% conclusive proof will not come against the official story unless someone in the know starts talking) is a personal journey and really has less to do with programming. Each person comes to their personal truths and weighs in however they can.
I have followed a lot of the information you have provided and will continue But in the same right I also investigate the information that supports the official versions.
Life on the fence.
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
That's the thing about this north side approach evidence.
The accounts do NOT differ.
They are all the same.
They ALL saw the plane on the north side.
Originally posted by pinch
I know you don't and can't answer my questions to you Craig, but can you tell us how many of your "witnesses" saw the aircraft plow into the building?
And the accounts are NOT all the same. Some have the aircraft flying over Arlington National Cemetery, making it a flight path from the north.. Some accounts having the aircraft slightly over the Annex. Some accounts (the ones you discount) have the aircraft over Columbia Pike or following I-395.