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Topic started on 3-9-2007 @ 12:05 PM by Craig Ranke CIT
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reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 12:08 PM by Chorlton
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One every link I get
Object not found!
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reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 12:09 PM by AcesInTheHole
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The links are not working for me.
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reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 12:19 PM by Craig Ranke CIT
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Give me a sec and I'll fix them.
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reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 12:55 PM by Craig Ranke CIT
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reply posted on 4-9-2007 @ 03:41 PM by Caustic Logic
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Quite a list! Thanks for sharing these, I'm salivating over the prospect of new shots. From the size of this list it seems there must be a few
anyway... Any cool stories on how you found this stash?
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reply posted on 4-9-2007 @ 05:13 PM by Craig Ranke CIT
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Another researcher online found these links.
I figured we might as well take advantage of the government hosting!
We have the complete Ingersoll collection and obtained them from someone at the VDOT during our first trip to Arlington last year. There is in fact a
bit of intrigue behind this story and you can read about it here: Ingersoll images reveal the staging of
light pole 1
As I said a few of the images were not included on that government site and we think we know why.
Plus Ingersoll took many more images from days after the event showing Bush, Rummy, and Condi taking a tour of the area and other shots of the
building damage aftermath.
Here is a taste:
We have contacted and personally spoken with Ingersoll directly as well.
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reply posted on 10-9-2007 @ 01:05 PM by Valdimer
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What images were not included, and why?
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reply posted on 10-9-2007 @ 02:28 PM by indierockalien
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I'm gunna sound really stupid, but what exactly is this of? This isn't the pentagon, is it?
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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 06:32 PM by CyberSEAL
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Anyone know what building the camera in the top left of this photo is attached to?
www.dodmedia.osd.mil...
(link feature chopping EG off of JPEG)
[edit: M, it's the Navy Annex building...lotta cameras in these photos I haven't heard discussed before]
[edit on 29-10-2007 by CyberSEAL]
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reply posted on 19-11-2007 @ 08:39 PM by dk3000
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Interesting... but a careful distraction. Look more closely at the photos and forget the pole. That was really obvious. Look again and see what else
you may be missing.
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reply posted on 23-11-2007 @ 09:04 PM by mirageofdeceit
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Interesting... but a careful distraction. Look more closely at the photos and forget the pole. That was really obvious. Look again and see what
else you may be missing.
Is that a suggestion or a statement? Spotted something we haven't?
Thanks for posting these photos, only, if that's a Government site, is it wise to view them from there (if you get my drift)?
[edit on 23-11-2007 by mirageofdeceit]
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:21 PM by NIcon
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okay so this thread is a year old, but hopefully Craig will read this and respond. I downloaded the full set of photos from here:
www.thepentacon.com... and was looking through some of them. I think I may have found something in one of the photos that
shows these photos may have been manipulated (or at least this one photo was). The only problem is I can't find this photo posted anywhere else other
than your site.
Craig, how confident are you that these photos are actually from Ingersoll? Did the VDOT ever explain why they had this full collection? Why would the
military give the photos to them?
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:33 PM by Craig Ranke CIT
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Obviously as stated in the thread most of the main set of photos are hosted on the DoD site open for public download.
But you are correct....some have been removed.
Frankly if you are talking about photo fakery I have yet to see any valid evidence of that in any of the Pentagon images.
Jack White's analysis is proven bunk by the Bob Pugh footage.
But I am fairly confident this is the entire set of Ingersoll images as the time stamps show a pretty tight sequence and obviously it's a
comprehensive collection.
The odd part of this story is the guy at the VDOT who gave us the images, Christopher "Kit" Landis, who was in charge of light pole maintenance,
seemed notably nervous to us.
It turns out that 3 months later, only 2 weeks after I would return to Arlington and obtain the citgo station interviews, Kit Landis committed
suicide.
More details here.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:36 PM by Craig Ranke CIT
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For the ATS members....here is a video I put together with all the Ingersoll images from 9/11 in chronological order set to music:
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 05:20 PM by jthomas
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Originally posted by NIcon
okay so this thread is a year old, but hopefully Craig will read this and respond. I downloaded the full set of photos from here:
www.thepentacon.com... and was looking through some of them. I think I may have found something in one of the photos that
shows these photos may have been manipulated (or at least this one photo was). The only problem is I can't find this photo posted anywhere else other
than your site.
Craig, how confident are you that these photos are actually from Ingersoll? Did the VDOT ever explain why they had this full collection? Why would the
military give the photos to them?
I think Craig thanks you and welcomes a sidetrack from the devastating self-debunking he accomplished by changing the flight path without thinking of
the consequences. Now it's too late and CIT's fairy tale is finished. See JREF for the details.
But your post brings up the subject of why CIT refused for over two full years to get any interviews and statements from a number of the over 1,000
people who saw, recovered, and/or sorted the wreckage from inside the Pentagon.
CIT was quite clear: it wanted to avoid having to deal with the wreckage at all costs; it simply stated the wreckage was "planted" without evidence
or investigation.
This series of photographs clearly shows the terrible aftermath of the deliberate crash of AA77 into the Pentagon by Arab hijackers. They never helped
CIT's case to begin with and cannot ever do so now, but thanks for reminding the American people the horror of Osama bin Laden's pre-meditated and
pre-planned attack on the U. S.
Of course, if you want to keep the CIT flame burning and suspect that the photographs were "manipulated" you can avail yourself of the opportunity
to interview any number of those over 1,000 people who can tell you what the wreckage was and why they never contested at all that it came from
AA77. The list of how to contact them was posted dozens of times but no truther had the courage to contact them all these years. I will be happy to
post the list again if you intend to interview them.
Will YOU, NIcon?
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 05:52 PM by NIcon
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craig, thanks for the response. I was particularly interested in photos 0409, 0410, and 0411. (For reference look here:
www.thepentacon.com...)
I thought they looked too similar to me, so I brought them all into photoshop and superimposed 0409 and 0411 onto 0410 and found that they match up
almost exactly down to the specific leaves on the trees, which I found strange, but maybe the guy had a tripod, or whatever.
But what really caught my eye was between 0410 and 0411. If you take 0410 and look at the white van in the bottom left, you'll see that you can see
the grass, sidewalk and road between the two tree trunks at the front of the van.
Then take 0411 and look at the same van and tree trunks. You'll see there is something there. When I enlarged it, it looks to me like it's a pair of
legs of someone heading towards the left. But the body is cut off where the sidewalk and the road meet.
I searched for another version of the pic, but all I found was the one posted on your page linked above. But the resolution isn't very good, so it
just looks like a blob. But in the high res version it definitely looks like a pair of legs without a body.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 06:04 PM by NIcon
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I would love to go interview all those witnesses and look further into the details of 911. But I would need someone to take care of all my clients
while I'm away. I would also need travel expenses, hotel accommodations, meals, etc. Also, I would need someone to take care of my mortgage and other
bills while I'm gone and also take care of my wife, kids, and dogs. Do you know anyone who will do this, JThomas?
Will YOU, JThomas?
Otherwise I think I'll just muddle along when and if I have the time.....
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 09:12 PM by jthomas
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Originally posted by NIcon
reply to post by jthomas
I would love to go interview all those witnesses and look further into the details of 911. But I would need someone to take care of all my clients
while I'm away. I would also need travel expenses, hotel accommodations, meals, etc. Also, I would need someone to take care of my mortgage and other
bills while I'm gone and also take care of my wife, kids, and dogs. Do you know anyone who will do this, JThomas?
Will YOU, JThomas?
Why on earth me? It is the obligation of those making the claim that AA77 did not the Pentagon to do their homework and support their
claims.
Surely, you agree that CIT has the burden of proof to support its own claims and do a thorough and proper investigation, don't you?
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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 02:41 AM by NIcon
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"Why on earth me?" was what I thought when you asked if I was going to contact the thousand or so witnesses. And yes everyone has the burden of
proof when they make a claim, but only so far as to satisfy the listeners of such claims.
However, the only claim I made was that there was an anomaly in one of the pictures I found on their site which may point to possible manipulation of
the photo. And to satisfy my burden of proof (of the anomaly, not the manipulation) I stated exactly what I found and where I found it, so anyone
could see it if they care to look.
So after I saw this anomaly, in order to take the next step in a thorough and proper investigation, I posted to this thread in hopes to find out from
Craig more of the history of these photos in hopes that such information may lead me to discover an independent version of this photo to confirm or
refute this anomaly.
So yes, these pictures do show the terrible aftermath of that day, but, as of right now, this one picture also shows me a pair of legs without a body.
Can you help with that?
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