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Originally posted by jimjamjerry
what the heck are you trying to say here?
Originally posted by melatonin
Originally posted by jimjamjerry
what the heck are you trying to say here?
That we have very good evidence that humans have a common ancestor with other apes.
You might need to be slightly scientifically literate to understand. If you read the links I provided, it might help a bit.
Originally posted by Equinox99
I understand what you are saying, now lets take it back even further. What do you consider happened, the big bang theory? or what other theory? Do you believe that we evolved from bacteria?
Originally posted by jimjamjerry
lol. are calling me illiterate? aah. hilarious.
i am scientifically literate, though I'm not as familiar with the terminology you are using as a specialist in your field would be.
evolution is just a theory and I don't think we understand it all that well yet, but I still think that in broad outlines, its valid. I also don't see why evolution cannot be fit into a religious perspetive.
consciousness working in matter, driving, directing, equals evolution.
Originally posted by melatonin
Originally posted by Equinox99
I understand what you are saying, now lets take it back even further. What do you consider happened, the big bang theory? or what other theory? Do you believe that we evolved from bacteria?
The big-bang theory is a valid model of what happened, but I feel that it will eventually become part of a bigger more expansive theory. Likely some cyclic universe theory.
As for common ancestory with bacteria. Yes, why not. 3.5 billion years ago, the evidence shows that bacteria is all that existed on the earth. Over time, species have diversified and become more complex.
Originally posted by Equinox99
Where did the materials come for the big bang theory? Please do not tell me
2 molecules collided to form this whole universe.
Originally posted by Equinox99
Ahh I see the statement you try to say. You do not mean we came from ape but our ancestors produced us and the apes over time. That makes more sense to me.
Originally posted by melatonin
Originally posted by jimjamjerry
lol. are calling me illiterate? aah. hilarious.
i am scientifically literate, though I'm not as familiar with the terminology you are using as a specialist in your field would be.
Well, it wasn't meant to be a nasty comment. But if you don't understand the lingo, do a bit of reading. It's late here and I'm off to bed soon, so I haven't time to go into great detail. The links might provide a bit more detailed info.
Originally posted by jimjamjerry
But just a bit, coz I feel bad - a pseudogene is an ex-functional gene.
Originally posted by jimjamjerryThere's more like this as well. But I think one is sufficient to make the point.
which would be that.... there's no possibility of this mutation occurring independently? Make the gene became ex-functional become of some kind of environmental change that impacted both simultaneously. Is that possible?
Originally posted by jimjamjerry
It has no relevance for me, being a church-burning atheist an all
you poor, deluded soul you :-)
[edit on 3-9-2007 by jimjamjerry]
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
science says nothing on god. god does not factor into any scientific theories. that's how it works. science leaves no place for god in its thinking
Originally posted by Equinox99
Where did the materials come for the big bang theory? Please do not tell me
2 molecules collided to form this whole universe.
Originally posted by Equinox99
I am not going to say evolution is wrong, because I have no proof, but you
can not prove that religions are wrong also. So therefore this is a dead
conversation, similar to an Atheist vs a Religious person.
Originally posted by runetang
1) How long did nothingness exist before the big bang happened? how many billions of billions of billions of years
Originally posted by West Coast
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
science says nothing on god. god does not factor into any scientific theories. that's how it works. science leaves no place for god in its thinking
If that is true, then why do 4 in every 10 scientist believe in a 'God'?
Science cannot provide all the answers Mr.madness.
Originally posted by amfirst
Now, there are billions of homo sapians today. If there is really evolution for humans on earth, what the hell happen to the other million of transition fossil as well as other other species that share a common ancestor? Why aren't they still alive?
Originally posted by amfirst
Why are the monkeys still around, but not are common acestor? Not a single fossil found! Extremely unusuall if u ask me. We found thousands of dinosaur fossils, but we can't find a single human transition fossil. That leaves only one thing, that we were intelligently created.