John Lenard Walson: Biggest discovery ever?

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posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:01 AM
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Mods, bear with me, as I'm aware there have been threads on this topic in the past. However, I feel they weren't started correctly and focused on Jose Escamilla's controversial and undependable distribution methods rather than on the actual subject matter itself. I feel this thread should stand alone. I ask responders to focus on the subject, rather than on their anger for not receiving proper service from Mr. Escamilla after paying for the online download of "Interstellar", which uses Microsoft DRM and has caused some issues. I understand that Mr. Escamilla should be accountable and timely in issuing refunds, however this is not what I'm focusing on, so I politely ask that you remain on subject. I do not have first hand experience with the broken downloads or refunds; I am merely addressing the people that have posted about it to get it out of the way. I also understand that there were some copyright issues with the YouTube videos below. I don't want that to be the focus of this either. I believe this topic deserves a more focused beginning, (which the other's lacked) in order to pick up some steam; hence the reason I've started this one. I hope it doesn't get locked. Here goes:

Amateur astronomer John Lenard Walson claims to have devised an "apparatus" composed of a common CCD camcorder and a commercial grade telescope that is capable of zooming and focusing in on deep space objects (which appear to the naked eye as regular stars) in such a way, that their shape and structure becomes clearly visible.

In the latest release from independent UFO documentary filmmaker Jose Escamilla, titled simply, "Interstellar", Mr. Escamilla claims to provide half an hour of "live" footage recorded directly through Mr. Walson's contraption. The images are incredible and shocking, to say the least. If the footage is real, this could be the biggest discovery in history. The images show intricate and structured objects of vast proportions, clearly not of naturally occurring origin. Jose and John have taken to calling them "starships". They claim these starships are orbiting earth at varying distances; some in very deep space and others closer than I dare to imagine! I will admit that some of the objects appear to be nebulas or gas formations, but others appear more "intentional" or anomalous to be natural, at least in my opinion. Mr. Walson claims to have received attention from NASA astronomers as well as prestigious universities for his discovery and has stated that he will disclose his technique to the world at large at some point in the near future. The images below are only a tease. Watch the videos!

Link to article on Walson and the film Interstellar:
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Link to official download of the film (Remember there have been issues.):
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Images:






Videos:
YouTube video compilation #1 (Catchy little song!):


YouTube video compilation #2 (First half is shown in negative.):




posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:04 AM
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Wow, thats incredible if authentic! Still seems a little to far fetched considering the way he constructed the apparatus. Wonder if anyone could replicate his device?



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:07 AM
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Man, thats amazing - God I hope this is for real, this could be absolutely massive and I hope that he goes public soon.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:16 AM
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There's a thread here which contains more images and some discussion as to what they may be. I haven't seen the movie "Interstellar", just the pictures that Mr Lenard had posted to Space.com, and a couple of other sites. Some certainly look as though they may be the ISS, other perhaps satellites? I don't know, I find it hard to believe that these things are out there, and with the vast number of eyes trained to the heavens Mr Lenard seems to be the only person who has spotted them. Perhaps there is a culture of secrecy at work, but then there are many amateur stargazers in the world. Surely more than one would come forward.

I'm interested in this "contraption" and would like to know more about how it's supposed to work, I mean, is it really capable of "zooming and focusing in on deep space objects (which appear to the naked eye as regular stars) in such a way, that their shape and structure becomes clearly visible" or is it just giving the appearance of structure? For instance, I'm short sighted, without my glasses on what are pinpoints of light to a normal eye appear to me as being veined structured orbs. Is this not a similar phenomena?

I also find it interesting that it's brought to us by Jose "Rods" Escamilla, via, as you elude to, an unhappy medium which has left at least some feeling hard done by.

I don't know, what we have are interesting images that raise more questions than they answer. The bottom line is I don't know what the hell they are, and I am yet to see someone who says they do, and can explain what they are in a convincing fashion.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:20 AM
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I watched this movie and found it massivley frustrating, I was hoping for an in depth documentary of how the footage was recorded, the one and only reason to hold back this information is to make more money .... If this guy has really discoverd something big then why is he not sharing it ? the footage if real is amazing but the whole thing stinks.....



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by Implosion
There's a thread here which contains more images and some discussion...


I didn't realize you had such a large thread going on this! I missed it entirely, I apologize. I had seen a few small ones. I'm happy to at least shine some light your way.
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[edit on 3-9-2007 by MetisElara]

[edit on 3-9-2007 by MetisElara]



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:21 PM
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Isn't it common knowledge that there's a 'culture of secrecy among observatory astronomers all over the world?
Also, one only needs to see the local astronomer at the local observatory telling 'their version' of any given UFO sighting in their general area on their local TV new station to get some idea about where they stand on UFO's. So many of their explanations for such sightings are even more absurd than those conjecture's that they could be from 'other worlds'!
It's a real shame that it continues to be this way but I will be closely analyzing those images shown in this thread and cross my finger that this isn't just another hoax.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Palasheea

Isn't it common knowledge that there's a 'culture of secrecy among observatory astronomers all over the world?


Hmm....I must have missed the memo.

Got anymore info on this "common"
cabal ?

I'm greatly interested.

Thanks,
Lex



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:36 PM
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One of those looks like a blurry image of that space suit the ISS released awhile back. Others look like blurry pictures of the Hubble space telescope the ISS maybe a front shot of the shuttle. If anything he has devised a way to take blury images of near earth man made objects orbiting earth.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by MetisElara
Mods, bear with me, as I'm aware there have been threads on this topic in the past. However, I feel they weren't started correctly and focused on Jose Escamilla's controversial and undependable distribution methods rather than on the actual subject matter itself.


This subject matter you are mentioning has been discussed extensively
before here under several titles. Your thread is not providing anything
new or relevant to this story MetisElara, in fact it's just a new promo
attempt for the Interstellar movie providing the same repeated links
we all know already. Therefore what's your connection with Escamilla
or JLW ?

Let me ask you. If you are so interested in promoting this movie that
must mean you have seen it already by paying the price. Then why
don't you talk about the content of the film, your comments and
opinions. Why don't you describe the important issues for example
was John Lenard interviewed by Escamilla ? Did John Lenard appear
on camera ? Was there any other important interview ? Was there
any actual location shown in the film ?

Was there any demonstration of the mentioned telescope and camera
in the film ? Were the images analyzed by actual image experts ?
Were the astronomers and NASA people mentioned by Escamilla
interviewed talking about those images and their opinion ?

Finally, was there an actual investigation on this story presented in
the film ? If there was an investigation can you tell me what kind of
investigation was made and where are the evidences besides
the images we all know ? Are the images authenticated by CGI
experts as not artificially created ? These are basic steps in any
professional investigation.

In my opinion this story is far away to be conclusive, in fact there are
still a whole bunch of questions regarding the images shown and the
information provided by Escamilla. I'm still skeptic about this film and
as long as I don't get the answers to all the questions I asked I don't
see any future in this case at all.

I will wait for Jose Escamilla to come clean showing all the elements
of his story, not only a bunch of rather questionable images that don't
have any references but also to show on camera who, where and
how were these images created. Until a convincing revelation is provided
for me the Interstellar story is just fiction.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:27 PM
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With a fake being completely conceivable, and there being no hard evidence that these images WERE shot in the manner they were claimed to be, anything related to this subject should merely fall to the wayside unless harder evidence shows up.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 08:34 PM
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This subject matter you are mentioning has been discussed extensively
before here under several titles. Your thread is not providing anything
new or relevant to this story MetisElara, in fact it's just a new promo
attempt for the Interstellar movie providing the same repeated links
we all know already. Therefore what's your connection with Escamilla
or JLW ?


I feel just a little bit attacked by you. Firstly, I am now aware that there has been an extensive discussion on the subject. I was not aware before, and have apologized. If you had scrolled just a little bit before quoting me and attacking me, you'd have noticed it. I did run a search, and I missed the thread entirely. Implosion's title for his thread did not sound off in my head as anything related to the topic. You use harsh words when you say I have not provided anything new or relevant. Well, excuse me Mr. High and Mighty! I was only trying to create a succinct beginning to the topic for people to discuss. As I mentioned I didn't know that "you all knew" already.

Secondly, I have no affiliation with the film or John or Jose whatsoever. As a matter of fact, I had never heard of any of this until yesterday. From which I'm sure you can gather that no, I have not seen the film. Only what you see above and now the images on Space.com. However, I have now read Implosion's thread as well as others, and I can surmise from other's that have had the privilege to see it, that no, Mr. Lenard does not appear, is not interviewed, and does not demonstrate his technique. The film strictly shows half an hour of footage captured through the alleged device.

Are you a policeman or something? Where did you get that interrogative nature of yours!?

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posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 09:08 PM
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Don't sweat it, duplicate threads happen all the time, usually on topics that have already been explained. This one is different, I don't think it's been explained in the least.

You're right about the title of my thread, it is quite ambiguous. I'm actually glad to see this topic brought up again. The more people that can cast an eye over these images, the more chance we have of finding out exactly what they are.



posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 01:34 AM
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I really want to see how this invention works.
If they were cool they would tell the public, that way there would be people seeing what they saw all over the place, otherwise it just seems like they're another scam group making money off of their "secret."



posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by alaskan
I really want to see how this invention works.
If they were cool they would tell the public, that way there would be people seeing what they saw all over the place, otherwise it just seems like they're another scam group making money off of their "secret."



I agree totally. If it were me I would at least tell my friends and you know they wouldn't keep this to them selves. This guy is delibritly concealing this for the sole purpose of making every penny he can out of it. Or you can say that "someone" is keeping his mouth shut which could be. But until this guy comes out with his technique and cordenence I'm not buying it.



posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by Xeven
One of those looks like a blurry image of that space suit the ISS released awhile back. Others look like blurry pictures of the Hubble space telescope the ISS maybe a front shot of the shuttle. If anything he has devised a way to take blury images of near earth man made objects orbiting earth.



Great point.
If you notice, on the posted google videos, when he reframes the object to keep it in view, the object moves with the camera, but the star in the lower left hand corner, stays in its position.
This happens several times, and with different objects.
Just an observation.



posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 02:44 AM
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amazing photo and video indeed. The only thing that strikes me as odd is he never really tells you how he's getting these images. A very vague description at best, correct me if im wrong.

heh you know if it is true it makes me feel like earth is and intergalactic truman show



posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 02:50 AM
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Please permit a wild speculation by your humble servant, "scout ships" for approaching evacuation fleet.
Take care. -------------------------PC



posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by Alien Abduct
I agree totally. If it were me I would at least tell my friends and you know they wouldn't keep this to them selves. This guy is delibritly concealing this for the sole purpose of making every penny he can out of it. Or you can say that "someone" is keeping his mouth shut which could be. But until this guy comes out with his technique and cordenence I'm not buying it.


Say this guy did find a new technique for filming objects in space/deep space.
Why shouldn’t he have the right to make money from it. If this is for real he must have put in a lot of work and effort to get this thing going.

I think he has every right to make money from it and I am sure many people in his situation would too.


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posted on Sep, 4 2007 @ 04:02 AM
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Greeting from Denmark

I am new here

But tomorrow i will buy one of those Meade etx 90 telescopes- and start looking .

Mabey Jo Ann Richards husband is telling the truth......





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