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Rankings, Rules, and Bill of Rights (revised 07/16/09)




Topic started on 3-9-2007 @ 04:50 AM by The Vagabond


*This is the latest revision of both the rules and rankings for the ATS Debate Forum. It includes the workings of the ranking system, A new Fighters' Bill of Rights, and current rankings of active fighters.

**All rules and rankings are subject to change without notice, at the discretion of the debate staff.

The ranking system exists for seeding of tournaments, to encourage challenge matches and to facilitate non-tournament title bouts.
Here's how it works:

Ranking points
A debater may be awarded rank points based on debates predating the ranking system as follows: 2 points per round of tournament participation, 2 additional points for winning a tournament, 1 point for challenge match participation, 1 point for challenge match wins.

Point awards for tournaments and events held under this system will vary to prevent a fixed status quo. In a tie, both fighters recieve the full award.

Free points are not awarded for challenge matches, but points may be wagered. The current minimum wager is 2 points. Fighters ranked at zero recieve two free points to wager, which are "repaid" in the event of victory.

Tournaments
Tournaments will be seeded by ranking, pairing the highest ranked debaters against the lowest. Tournaments may be open or restricted to a rank range. Tournaments may be for the championship or not. Championship tournaments may be held without the participation of the current champion, but champions shall not be forcibly excluded except in case of misconduct.

Challenges
Any member may challenge any other member, fighter or not. Challenges may be directed or open, and may be arranged independently or with staff assistance. Special terms and topics for challenge matches may be established by mutual agreement. Challenges may be declined for any reason, except for title bout challenges. A title bout challenge may be issued to the champion by an equal or higher ranked fighter, and MUST be accepted within 90 days except in case of extreme hardship, or the championship is vacated, pending a championship tournament.

Fighters' Bill of Rights
Fighters may, without penalty or dishonor, refuse to argue any that position which constitutes:
(1) A religious offense.
(2) A violation of any law or regulation to which fighter is subject.
(3) A source of emotional trauma to the fighter. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to, any debate regarding any type of abuse, adversity, hardship, or disability which has affected the fighter, a fighter's loved ones, or any group/demographic to which the fighter or the fighter's loved ones belong.

No fighter shall lose ranking points as the result of a hardship such as illness or death in the family, natural disaster, etc.

The debate forum staff reserves the right to determine the legitimacy of claims made under this bill of rights, subject to the review of ATS Management.

The current rankings

Name..................Points.........Record.....Streak 
MemoryShock___________28_____________12-5_______6__
Semperfortis__________24_____________11-6-2_____1__ *former champ*
The Vagabond__________24_____________8-3-2______3__ *former champ*
Intrepid______________22_____________6-3________6__ *former champ*
TruthWithin___________18_____________7-3________2__
chissler______________17_____________5-4-1______2__
Ian McLean____________16___________7-3________0__ *former champ*
Skyfloating___________16_____________10-11______0__
Maxmars_______________14_____________7-1________6__*Champ*
Loki__________________13_____________7-1________1__
americandingbat_______11_____________6-0________6__
GAOTU789______________11_____________3-2________0__
WyrdeOne______________10_____________4-0________4__ *former champ*
Argos_________________10_____________3-0________3__
Heike _________________8_____________5-2________2__
Rdube02________________8_____________4-1________0__
TLomon_________________8_____________3-2________0__
Schrodingers Dog_______6_____________5-3________2__
44soulslayer___________6_____________4-1________0__
Animal_________________6_____________2-1________0__
Tuning Spork___________6_____________2-2________0__
Kenshiro2012___________6_____________2-3________0__
Esdad71________________6_____________2-1________0__
Bigdanprice____________6_____________1-2________0__
Simulacra______________6_____________1-2________0__
TheMythLives___________6_____________3-2________2__
Illusionsaregrander____5_____________1-0________1__
IsaacKoi_______________5_____________4-0________5__
Oscitate ______________5_____________2-1________0__
maria_stardust_________4_____________3-3________0__
AshleyD________________4_____________2-1________2__
TheWayISeeIt___________4_____________2-3________0__
nyk537_________________4_____________4-6________0__
Constantwonder_________4_____________2-2________0__
Byrd___________________4_____________0-0-1______0__
FreeThinkerIdealist____4_____________1-1________0__
TheDuckster____________4_____________1-1________0__

whatukno_______________6_____________4-4________1__
nefermore______________4_____________2-1________0__
orange-light___________3_____________2-3________0__
budski_________________3_____________2-4________0__
peacejet_______________3_____________2-1________1__
Sublime620_____________3_____________1-5________0__
Ldragonfire____________3_____________2-3________0__
souls__________________3_____________2-2________0__
Chebob_________________3_____________0-1________0__
skeptic1_______________2_____________1-2________0__
ragster________________2_____________1-1________0__
GUNSINWAR______________2_____________1-0________1__
grimreaper797__________2_____________1-0________1__
ALightInDarkness_______2_____________1-0________1__
SpartanKingLeonidas____2_____________1-0________1__
jamie83________________2_____________1-0________1__
Coven__________________2_____________1-1________0__
damajikninja___________2_____________1-0________1__
poet1b_________________2_____________0-1________0__
Hikix__________________2_____________0-1________0__
Enjoies05______________2_____________0-2________0__
MastaG_________________2_____________1-0________0__
TheBorg________________2_____________0-3________0__
bodrul_________________2_____________2-2________0__
OzWeatherman___________2_____________1-1________0__
visible_villain________2_____________1-1________0__
wormwood13_____________2_____________1-1________0__
antar__________________2_____________1-1________0__
Supercertari___________2_____________1-1________1__
Apex___________________1_____________0-1________0__
dntwastetime___________1_____________0-1________0__
gallopinghordes________1_____________0-1________0__
more_serotonin_pls_____1_____________0-1________0__
pstiffy________________1_____________0-1________0__

titorite_______________1_____________0-3________0__
one_man24______________0_____________0-1________0__
CA_Orot________________0_____________0-1________0__
Irish M1ck_____________0_____________0-1________0__
Proto Fire Fox_________0_____________0-1________0__
jasonjnelson___________0_____________0-4________0__
Rockpuck_______________0_____________1-2________0__
emsed1_________________0_____________0-2________0__
Frankidealist35________0_____________0-3________0__
questioningall_________0_____________0-1________0__
FSBlueApocalypse_______0_____________0-2________0__
N. Tesla_______________0_____________0-1________0__
Benarius_______________0_____________0-1________0__
Anti - Government______0_____________0-1________0__
SemperParatusRJCC_____0_____________0-1________0__



Thanks to Ian McLean for the organized rankings!










[edit on 7/16/2009 by semperfortis]



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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 01:53 AM by The Vagabond


This thread is open for fighters to issue challenges.

Non-fighters should issue challenges via U2U to their intended opponent and then contact a debate moderator (probably me) once they have made an agreement to debate. You will then be given fighter status, allowing you to post in this forum.



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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 02:48 PM by nyk537


I'll take this opportunity to issue an open challenge to any fighter on ATS. I'll debate anyone, anytime, about anything. Just let me know and we'll get it arranged.



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reply posted on 23-9-2007 @ 02:34 PM by The Vagabond


Just to let everyone know, challenge matches are still open even during the first-timer's tournament. I'm very surprised nobody has issued any challenges yet.

Two matches that I would very much like to see are TheBorg versus Esdad71 and nyk537 versus Tuning Spork.

And you guys with rankings of 6... you should be gunning for the top. Has anybody U2U'd Rdube, Memoryshock, or Kenshiro for a match yet?



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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 10:08 PM by The Vagabond


Kudos to NYK537 for being the first fighter to go out and find himself a challenge match. He had a tough draw in the first round of the last tournament- don't be fooled by his ranking, he's sharp.

Also hats off to nyk's opponent Truth4Hire for accepting a judged debate on such a controversial issue.



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reply posted on 10-10-2007 @ 07:25 AM by nyk537


Well…time to move up the ladder. My open challenge to any member still stands. I'll probably hold off until this coming Monday. Just let me know if you want to debate ANY topic and I'm for it.



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reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 05:33 PM by MemoryShock


nyk537...You have twice issued a debate challenge....I would like to accept your challenge..likely sometime after the current tournament out of respect for the current fighters...

The topic can be of any nature, of which can either be discussed through u2u or randomly chosen by a moderator....

MemoryShock

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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 07:25 AM by nyk537


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Excellent. The topic does not make any difference to me. If it's all the same we will just let a moderator choose a random topic for us. As soon as you are ready to get started let me know.



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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 04:18 PM by MemoryShock


Then it is agreed...the topic shall be chosen at random. I believe that I will be ready (more than) at the end of this tournament...which I anticipate to occur in ~ a week...

...I believe that we can put on a good show.



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reply posted on 14-11-2007 @ 08:36 AM by nyk537


Originally posted by MemoryShock
Then it is agreed...the topic shall be chosen at random. I believe that I will be ready (more than) at the end of this tournament...which I anticipate to occur in ~ a week...

...I believe that we can put on a good show.


As do I.

I haven't witnessed you debate personally but I have heard great things about you.

I look forward to an excellent challenge.



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reply posted on 23-1-2008 @ 06:09 PM by budski


I'd like to fire out a challenge.

I'm a beginner in many respects, but I'm willing to take anyone on for experience.

If anyone would like a challenge match, u2u me and I'm sure we can sort out the details.



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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 11:56 AM by The Vagabond


Summary of Recent Changes

As of 11/21/08, the rules have been officially changed to reflect the now common practice of members and moderators competing with eachother.

The period for a champion to accept a challenge has been extended to 90 days.

Major changes to the phrasing but not the meaning of other rules have been made in the interest of brevity, creating more room for new fighters to be listed in the rankings.



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reply posted on 31-1-2009 @ 06:25 AM by neformore


Ok. I need some experience at this, so.....

Open challenge here, anyone at all. Lets have some fun.



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reply posted on 31-1-2009 @ 06:28 AM by Skyfloating


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Its good to get some practice before the Tournament. Your chances of finding an opponent are better if you post in the Fight Club Pub



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reply posted on 2-3-2009 @ 04:28 AM by 44soulslayer


Just a heads up- I appear twice in the rankings (at 6 points and 4 points)! I should only be on the 6pt position.

I'm looking forward to the R2 matchups



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reply posted on 3-3-2009 @ 03:02 PM by MemoryShock


Fixed...



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reply posted on 16-3-2009 @ 10:46 AM by The Vagabond


Just cleaning up the list. Wanted to save the records of the inactive fighters being cleared in case they show up.


Jamuhn________________12_____________3-2________0__
thelibra______________10_____________4-1_______ 0__
Zenlover28_____________6_____________2-1________0__
Andrew E. Wiggin_______4_____________2-0________2__
dominusluciferi________4_____________1-0________0__
Xtrozero_______________4_____________3-1________1__
Secret Titan___________4_____________1-1________0__
discomfit______________4_____________1-1________0__
ConfederacyOfUnity_____4_____________1-1________0__
Howmuchisthedoggy______4_____________1-1________0__
DonWahn________________2_____________0-1________0__
D.E.M._________________2_____________0-1________0__
EvilBat________________2_____________0-1________0__
shearder_______________2_____________1-1________0__
Beelzebubba____________2_____________1-1________0__
Frosty_________________2_____________0-1________0__
Lucasman_______________2_____________0-1________0__
Xraided________________2_____________0-1________0__
Mrjenka________________2_____________0-1________0__
Apothecary85___________2_____________0-1________0__
Ihatesifi______________2_____________0-1________0__
Truttseeker____________2_____________0-1________0__
Raideur________________2_____________0-1________0__
Jburns_________________2_____________0-1________0__
Odium__________________2_____________0-1________0__
they see ALL___________2_____________0-1________0__
The_Final______________2_____________0-1________0__
backtoreality__________2_____________0-1________0__
Amaterasu______________0_____________0-1________0__
rockets red glare______0_____________0-1________0__
xpert11________________0_____________0-1________0__

[edit on Mon 16 Mar 2009 by The Vagabond]

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