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Maths proves US won't attack: Iran leader

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posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:15 AM
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Maths proves US won't attack: Iran leader


www.news.com.au

PRESIDENT Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has sought to justify his confidence the US will not attack Iran, saying the proof comes from his mathematical skills as an engineer and faith in God, the press reported today.
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posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:15 AM
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Wow, not only is he a crazed outspoken rhetoric swinging leader, but also a mathematical genius.

I wonder what equations he uses to come to this stance.

Is this more taunting? Maybe he thinks Iran has nofin to lose, or does he think he can defeat US/ Israel.. Could Russia/China be backing him?

www.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:39 AM
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"They do not dare wage war against us and I base this on a double proof."



"I draw up tables. For hours, I write out different hypotheses. I reject, I reason. I reason with planning and I make a conclusion. They cannot make problems for Iran."



I'd like to see his calculations on this one please, as this just looks like general rambling to me..

[edit on 3/9/2007 by nickh]



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:47 AM
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Well I wouldn't say I was a mathematical genious by any standards but my calculations are..

1 Raving lunatic bent on aquiring nukes
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1 Gibbering baboon with a fixation for policing the entire world
= A pretty dire situation for the rest of us.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:48 AM
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He holds a PhD on transport engineering and planning from Tehran's Science and Technology University


"Transport Engineering". Maybe he should be concentrating on Irans subway system, rather than their military strategies, or possibly lack off, if he doesnt think an attack is possible.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:22 AM
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E=Holy #$%# I'm Screwed? In any case Iran is lucky this fool does not control and dictate their military. That is up to the commanders and the Mullahs who are at least more rational and capable (mental wise). Iran would go down even faster if dear old Mahmoud was calling the shots...

[edit on 3-9-2007 by WestPoint23]



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:23 AM
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He is right, sort of..

The United States will not attack unless it receives international support. This won't be Iraq version II



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:26 AM
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If people have learned anything over the last few years is that the US wont sell it's national security to other countries. Given what we plan to do, air strikes and not an invasion or prolonged war, we can go at it solo.

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posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
If people have learned anything over the last few years is that the US wont sell it's national security to other countries. Given what we plan to do, air strikes and not an invasion or prolonged war, we can go at it solo.


"US wont sell it's national security to other countries"

Are you suggesting that Iran has the ability to strike the United States already



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:52 AM
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Of course, Iran can strike US assets and interests in several parts of the world, and it has been involved in the fight against the US military in the region. It can also, in an asymmetrical kind of way, strike the United States itself. Then there is the remote possibility of a direct military attack on the US, this option is still beyond their reach but not beyond possibility. Then there is their nuclear program etc...

I don't see why one has to wait until Iran builds a nuclear weapon, mass produces it, increase yield, progresses in miniaturization and develops ICBM's in order to strike them...



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
I don't see why one has to wait until Iran builds a nuclear weapon, mass produces it, increase yield, progresses in miniaturization and develops ICBM's in order to strike them...


I agree with you too,
but Iran is very dangerous to the Western world and no decision should be rushed through.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:26 AM
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I think that Ahmadinejad is actually alluding to a particular chess strategy.

the US is being forced into 2 positions to make,
each of which is detrimental to the US side.

not making war will have as much negative consequence as making war

so, Iran will have won the exchange in either case.


remember, the Iranian leadership has already said they can accept
many nuclear strikes, & martyrs,
but the USA can not survive just one nuclear strike



here's an aticle, just as pertinent today as it was on Oct 17, 2006 when it was written
www.americanthinker.com...

[edit on 3-9-2007 by St Udio]



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:33 AM
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Umm... great strategy, nuclear suicide, no thanks. Iran cannot strike the CONUS with anything conventional, let alone non existent nuclear weapons. Nor does Iran have any delivery platforms to carry a first generation (see large) nuclear device. In any case Iran is not in a good position. Either way their military, economical and industrial capability will be devastated, who knows if we wont target their leadership as well...



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Umm... great strategy, nuclear suicide, no thanks. Iran cannot strike the CONUS with anything conventional, let alone non existent nuclear weapons. Nor does Iran have any delivery platforms to carry a first generation (see large) nuclear device. In any case Iran is not in a good position. Either way their military, economical and industrial capability will be devastated, who knows if we wont target their leadership as well...



the nuclear scenario was a metaphor.....a theory, a hypothical, an allusion... meant to make an intellectual point

it was not meant a a physical conflict strategy that could be set in motion.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:50 AM
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Maybe his mathematical skills in percentages told him that he will be 50% correct. 50/50 aren't bad odds.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 08:06 AM
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Seriously, I'm against the proposed mass murder of Iranian civilians and therefore have to admit that looking into the eyes of Ahmadinejad and then Bush...
I see a huge difference in the intelligence and capabilities of both men.

Bush is a puppet dancing on the strings of an illegal occupation, whilst Ahmadinejad wants nothing more than safety and security of the middle east. If he wants nukes, then fine... He would be no more in the wrong than the murderers that occupy the white house. I really, really doubt he would use the nukes anymore than India or Germany. After all why should Germany or India or Pakistan or the UK or the US have nukes? Why? Cos every other bugger has them...

For all the spin and nonsense that the Media spews out (and so many people here on ATS happily swallow), I actually think he's a clever man.

Iran is an ancient civilisation, whereas America is young and foolhardy, I know who I'd put my money on if things got brutal out there... Maybe not in military might, but in tactics and history.... things are different. This is not unstable Iraq, this is Iran!

For the sake of the planet, I'd suggest America back down and start cleaning off the blood from its hands.

Sometimes you can dig a hole too deep.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 09:10 AM
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hmm, I guess he forgot to add bush into the equation....



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 09:20 AM
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America this America that - when are people going to accept that America is not the be all and end all in the NWO conspiracy. It is a major player, no doubt, but to suggest it is the ONLY player is comical. Stop blaming the U.S and see the bigger picture.

The way is being carved in blood for the ushering in of the new age.
Strategically any country that poses a threat to the NWO is being systematically targeted. We are told they are the "Axis of Evil" - but they are simply countries that will not tow the line for the NWO, nothing more nothing less.

A one world monetary system cannot work until ALL countries are under control.
A one world Govt cannot work until ALL countries are under control.
Iran is simply not under control as yet and everything else about Iran is a smoke screen.

Iran wishes to run its own affairs. Elect its own officials and ultimately decide its own direction and prosperity. This bucks its head against plans of the NWO.
Iran is not the end of this take over. Every single country on the planet that does not tow the line for the NWO will be systematically targeted.

Acquiring nuclear technology is not what this conflict is about. It goes WAY deeper than that. When Bush Snr ushered in the NWO in his address to congress, he wasn't joking.

Its not called the New Country Order, if that was the case Iran wouldn't have any problems. Its called the New World Order - EVERY country, EVERY nation, EVERY tongue and EVERY creed is involved.
Iran is just one stepping stone in the plan being played out.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 09:39 AM
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its just sad to that most ppl here acturly support some sort of nwo and mindless bloodshed.

so im gonna say my take on it , i hope you U.s guys acturly get to have a new civil war ,

would be kinda funny from my perspective ,

all you guys have achived with your warmongerin is that oil and gold prices have gone sky high and pourd money into your leaders pockets.

and shame on you for not paying your own gas taxes , thats a lack of responsibility.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 09:50 AM
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"I draw up tables. For hours, I write out different hypotheses. I reject, I reason. I reason with planning and I make a conclusion. They cannot make problems for Iran."'


That is odd, every time I run the above through my calculator, it displays the words "Bomb Iran" as the solution.


Seriously, this does seem highlight that those in positions of power or those who possess 'genius' are also usually plagued with insanity.




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